Bebop deckplans?

[robject]

I don't suppose anyone has tried deckplanning the Bebop from "Cowboy Bebop"?

I've been thinking about designing something like it, on the 4,000t or 5,000t range (even though it seems like the 'actual' Bebop is much larger than that). 4k should suffice, for Traveller purposes...

Or, perhaps something smaller, like an 1,800-ton hull.

  Vol  Component
1,800  Hull, streamlined
   36  bridge
    0* model/4 
   95  J-drive-T (J4)
   17  M-drive-J (1G)
   55  P-plant-T
  720  J-fuel
   36  P-fuel
   40  staterooms(10)
  200  smallcraft hangar
  600  cargo
  
    * 256 liters, contained on the bridge

 

[GypsyComet]

Aside from the not-terribly-useful gravity wheel, most of the ship is pretty straightforward from a Traveller POV. Based on the handful of times we see characters move beyond the lounge and quarters area, those are all behind the wheel, while the bridge and launch bay are in front of it. Most of the lower hull would be fuel, I'm guessing.

 

[robject]

Aside from the not-terribly-useful gravity wheel, most of the ship is pretty straightforward from a Traveller POV. Based on the handful of times we see characters move beyond the lounge and quarters area, those are all behind the wheel, while the bridge and launch bay are in front of it. Most of the lower hull would be fuel, I'm guessing.

Agreed. The "issue" is how big to make it. We know Jet's the pilot-astrogator, and there's no engineer... so one would think "ah, a 200-ton ship". Except it seems almost like the hangar itself may be upwards of 200 tons... and the "official" stats puts the Bebop at 142m x 70m x 43m... which is quite a large bounding box.

 

[Gadrin]

Apparently the Mangas are available and fairly reasonably priced, but there's no telling if you get some nice shots of the ship so you can work it out....

http://www.futureblues.com/bebopmanga.html

 

[Droyne668]

Info from the series:

Ship sizes and weights
http://www.animeinfo.org/featured/bebop/bebopships.html

http://www.animechains.com/bebop/ships.cfm

Might help a bit.

Best,
Will

 

[robject]

Thanks Droyne, I remember seeing the first page.

This comment grabs me:
Many parts of the [Bebop] still remain unexplored by its inhabitants.

Eyeballing the Bebop, and adding a grain of salt, I see the hangar could be twice the width of the Hammerhead... say 30 meters. And it's much higher than the smallcraft... say 10 meters. And it's long enough to hold all three ships... say 50 meters. That's a 1,000 ton hangar.

Alternately, let's trim the length down to 30 meters, trim the width down to 24 meters, and say the ships are parked in a more efficient packing algorithm. That's a 500 ton hangar.

The deck beneath the hangar is easily twice that length. Call it 60 meters. (Yes, the official specs are more like 140 meters. Humor me.) Give it eight levels of 3 meters each, for a height of 24 meters. Width is still 24 meters. Call it 2,500 tons.

Say the wings/engines are half again the width of the main hull -- 45 meters. They're thin -- 10 meters. And they're short -- say 20 meters. And they're kind of center-sloping... ah never mind about that. Anyway, that's another 600 tons.

So the "trimmed down" edition of the Bebop is a cool 3,600 tons.

Volume  Component        Power
(3600)  Hull streamlined
   72   Bridge
    0*  Model/4
   95   J-Drive T (J2)   1800
   29   M-Drive Q (M1)   1500
   55   P-Plant T       (1800)
  720   J-fuel
   36   P-fuel
 1000   Living space**
 1593   cargo  
        
    * 256 liters (located on bridge)
   ** staterooms, common rooms, etc.

I can see that the eight levels of space can be slashed. Though I expect there to be a lot of cargo space on a fishing trawler built to deliver its catch directly from the Ganymede oceans to the centers of interplanetary trade.

 

[Uncle Bob]

Recall the BeBop ships don't need a jump drive since they use a network of hyperdpace gateways

 

[GypsyComet]

Lots of cargo and reefer cargo space certainly lowers the complexity of the ship from a crewing point of view. The noted lack of Jump Drive in the original doesn't hurt, but a TU equivalent would need one.

Under T4 (and thus TNE) configuration ratios, a 142m wedge gives us a rough displacement around 6000 tons, while a 142m Needle is only about 4000 tons.

 

[GypsyComet]

Were you thinking of sticking with 3600 tons for this project? I'm feeling a bout of deckplanning coming on...

 

[robject]

Were you thinking of sticking with 3600 tons for this project? I'm feeling a bout of deckplanning coming on...

Moo hoo haa haa haaaa.
Hm. Making me commit to a volume? Now I'm not as sure...

 

[GypsyComet]

Moo hoo haa haa haaaa.
Hm. Making me commit to a volume? Now I'm not as sure...

It's certainly ballpark, based on the configuration hull length calcs. You started the project, so the component volumes list is your call...

This project is somewhat attractive since I like the show AND many of my really old plans were very similar sorts of "vaguely nautical" hulls. Must have been all that Star Blazers as a kid...

 

[GypsyComet]

If it's any help, the first hull deck (the roof of which serves for landing and take-off) is something over 800 tons all by itself including its slice of the wings.