Best battalion transport?

[Marchand]

Is there a published design for a ship capable of transporting about a battalion (c.500 troops) anywhere? Prefer CT but willing to adapt from another system.

 

[rancke]

GT:Ground Forces has a 30,000T troop transport (Keith class) with room for about 4,400 men and a 1,200 transport (Caen class) capable of carrying 310 marines and 25 APCs. Both are jump-4. Full deckplans for the 1,200 tonner. P. 96-101.


Hans

 

[McPerth]

This ship is for MT, but I guess it might be adapted (while due to different jump fuel requirementes, it might lose jump capability, not sure):

I’m finishing a new design for an Imperial Navy Assault Ship. The full page craft profile is posted here and the design worksheets are posted here.

The idea was spurred by discussions in this forum about planetary invasions. What I set out to do with this design was to figure out what all needed to be packed into a ship to get a battalion of jump troops to where they were needed, put them on the surface, and support them while in action.

It was easier said than done, so I’m going to lay out some of the considerations and trade-offs that are part of the design in this thread. I hope it will assist others crazy enough to look at the complexities of a surface invasion.

And I’m working on deckplans now so I’ll appreciate any feedback that can make the final product better.

This is the MT-format UCP (short version):

[FONT=Calibri][B][I][U][FONT=Calibri]Citadel[/FONT][/U][/I][/B][B][U][FONT=Calibri]–class 7,900-ton Imperial Armored Assault Auxiliary TL15 version 1.01 [/FONT][/U][/B][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]     [B][U]CraftID[/U][/B]:    Citadel-class Medium Auxiliary, Armored, Assault (MAA), [U]TL[/U] 15, [U]MCr[/U] 4,1[COLOR=red]71[/COLOR].[COLOR=red]140[/COLOR] [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       (MCr 5,7[COLOR=red]85[/COLOR].[COLOR=red]95[/COLOR] with carried craft and vehicles)[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]           [B][U]Hull[/U][/B]:    7,110/17,775; [U]Displacement[/U] 7,900 tons, [U]Configuration[/U] 4SL, [U]Armor[/U] 58G, [U]Loaded Wt.[/U] [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       143,[COLOR=red]257[/COLOR] tons, [U]Unloaded Wt.[/U] 109,[COLOR=red]78[/COLOR]8.[COLOR=red]6 [/COLOR]tons[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]      [B][U]Power[/U][/B]:    5[COLOR=red]18[/COLOR]/6[COLOR=red]90[/COLOR]; [U]Fusion[/U] [COLOR=red]92[/COLOR],[COLOR=red]892[/COLOR].8 Mw, [U]Duration[/U] 5.[COLOR=red]4[/COLOR]/16.[COLOR=red]2[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]         [B][U]Loco[/U][/B]:    854/1,138; [U]Gravitic Thruster[/U], [U]Maneuver[/U] = 3; [U]Agility[/U] = 0[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       534/712; [U]Jump[/U] = 4[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       [U]Top Speed[/U] = 4,200 kph, [U]Cruise[/U] = 3,150 kph, [U]NOE[/U] = 190 kph[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]      [B][U]Comm[/U][/B]:    [U]Radio[/U] System (3), Far Orbit (3), [U]Laser[/U] System (2), Far Orbit (3), [U]Maser[/U] System (4), [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri]                       [FONT=Calibri]Far Orbit (5), [U]Radio Jammer[/U] Far Orbit (2)[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]    [B][U]Sensors[/U][/B]:    [U]EMS Active Array[/U] Far Orbit (4), [U]EMS Jammer[/U] Far Orbit (2), [U]EMS Passive Array[/U] [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Interstellar (6), [U]Low Penetration Densitometer[/U] 250 m (6), [U]Neutrino Sensor[/U] 10 kw (6); [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       [U]ActObjScan[/U] Routine, [U]ActObjPin[/U] Routine, [U]PassEnScan[/U] Simple, [U]PassEnPin[/U] Routine, [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       [U]PassObjScan[/U] Routine, [U]PassObjPin[/U] Routine[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][B][FONT=Calibri]            [U]Off[/U][/FONT][/B][FONT=Calibri]:    [U]Meson Gun[/U] 04x, [U]Beam Laser[/U] xx7, [U]Missiles[/U] x06[COLOR=red], [U]Fusion Gun[/U] x05[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Batteries        1                             3                      [COLOR=red]5                             6[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Bearing           1                             3                      [COLOR=red]5                             6[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       40 battery-rounds (BR) of HE missiles, 5 BR of nuclear missiles, battery round = [COLOR=red]90[/COLOR][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][B][FONT=Calibri]           [U]Def[/U][/FONT][/B][FONT=Calibri]:    [U]Defensive DM[/U] +8, [U]Armor DM[/U] +6[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       [U]Sandcaster[/U] xx6[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Batteries        6[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Bearing           6[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       45 battery-rounds of sand canisters, battery round = 54[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]    [B][U]Control[/U][/B]:    [U]Computer[/U] model 8/fib with two backups, [U]Large Holodisplay[/U] 6,[U] Holo HUD[/U] 30, [U]Holo[/U][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       [U]Linked Control Panels[/U] 36, [U]Electronic Circuit Protection[/U], Basic Environment, Basic Life[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Support, Extended Life Support, Artificial Gravity, Inertial Dampers, [U]Air Locks[/U] 22[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]      [B][U]Accom[/U][/B]:    [U]Crew[/U] 1[COLOR=red]49[/COLOR] (8 segments of 19), [U]Bridge[/U] 11, [U]Engineering[/U] 11, [U]Maintenance[/U] 2, [U]Gunnery[/U] [COLOR=red]29[/COLOR],[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       [U]Flight[/U] 56, [U]Ship’s Troops[/U] 21, [U]Command[/U] 12, [U]Stewards[/U] 4, [U]Medical[/U] 3, [U]Crew Staterooms[/U] [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Single Occupant Large = 2, Single Occupant Small = 14[COLOR=red]7[/COLOR], [U]Passenger Staterooms[/U] Single [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Occupant Large = 2, Double Occupant Small = 224, [U]Low Berths[/U] 45, [U]Subcraft[/U] 8 Pauldron[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       Fighters, 8 Limber Shuttles, 12 Fleet AFVs, 3 Swift APCs, 12 Prodromoi CRVs, 8 Dasher [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       GPUVs, 4 Titan AMRVs, and 1,155 Drop Capsules[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]       [B][U]Other[/U][/B]:    [U]Cargo[/U] 12,[COLOR=red]150[/COLOR] kl (9[COLOR=red]00[/COLOR] displacement tons), [U]Power Plant Fuel[/U] 6,0[COLOR=red]15[/COLOR].[COLOR=red]97[/COLOR] kl, [U]Jump Drive[/U][/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       [U]Fuel[/U] 32,684.3 kl, [U]Craft & Vehicle Fuel[/U] 691.8 kl, [U]Object Size[/U] Large, [U]Emission Level[/U] Faint[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri][B][U]Comments[/U][/B]:    Excerpt from the 1112 edition of [U]Jane’s Fighting Ships of Known Space[/U]: "The Citadel-[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]class assault ship combines the functions of a craft carrier, troop carrier, and fire support vessel and [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]is intended to spearhead planetary assaults. Despite their impressive armament, the vessels are not [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]classified as combatants. They are included in the ranks of the Imperial Naval Auxiliary Fleet and are [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]considered to be a choice assignment among Auxiliary Fleet officers and other ranks. In peacetime [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]these vessels routinely undertake patrol, training, and flag missions and serve as a deterrent in [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]border areas as well as areas prone to unrest. In wartime, they will be found in the forefront of [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]assault task forces."[/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]                       "The service record of the Citadel-class, though brief, is nevertheless exemplary. Of [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]the first eighteen vessels commissioned, four saw service in the Fifth Frontier War and two [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]([I]Redoubt[/I] and [I]Bulwark[/I]) received commendations for actions in the counteroffensives against the [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]Sword Worlds and the Zhodani in 1109. Another (the [I]Safehold[/I]) served notably in the emergency [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]response to a local plague on [U]Uakye[/U] (Spinward Marches, 1805) in 1111, also earning a [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]commendation from Archduke Norris. Twenty-one vessels of this class are now in service and the [/FONT][/FONT]
[FONT=Calibri][FONT=Calibri]IJEB has allocated funding to procure as least 30 more in the next decade."[/FONT][/FONT]

 

[Marchand]

Excellent, thanks folks.

 

[flykiller]

I have stats for a ct transport if you are still interested. if so I'll copy them over.

 

[Marchand]

Yes please

 

[flykiller]

this is not "the best battalion transport" possible, it is merely the one possible imtu. also it uses many conventions unique to mtu but they are not exotic so converting it to regular ct should be a minor issue.

alice-class fleet general transport

alice transports are used for general cargo transport for the fleet. as such they are all j4. they carry standardized interchangeable 4900 dton modules that may be outfitted for any purpose such as cargo, fuel, troops, rescue/retrieval/hospital, or whatever else the fleet requires.

displacement: 19000 dtons total (including 4900 dton module)
tech 9/10/13/15
hull/powerplant/maneuver, tech 10 (yard: porozlo)
cargo, tech 9 (yard: junidy)
jump drives, tech 13 (yard: as available)
bridge and weapons, tech 15 (yard: as available)
shipyard space to build: 19560 dtons

manning
command 22 (19 staterooms)
engineering 45 (23 staterooms)
gunnery 12 (6 staterooms)
service 12 (6 staterooms)
total 95 (56 staterooms)

sensor suite
9 (tech 15) (12ep)

engineering
jump 4 (760ep for 4)
maneuver 2 (380 for 2)
power plant (772ep)
fuel purifier

fuel
jump 7600 dtons
ops 772 dtons

weapons
five factor 9 beam laser batteries (150ep)

defenses
nuclear damper screen factor 9 (90ep)
one factor 9 sand battery (30 reloads)
hull armor factor 2 (0+2)
module armor factor 1 (0+1)

other
56 staterooms
6 damage control stations
full medical
brig
3 lifeboats
2 general gigs
cargo 230 dtons (10 months endurance)

a battalion and its naval support division is as follows:

imperial marine expeditionary battalion
-----------------------------------------------

hq
cmnd 54M
ofc 3Ss
s1 1sc
s2 3Ss
s3 4FS
s4 3Ss

A Co (infantry)

cmnd 3sFSc [s - company comms] [C - company medic]
sppt [CfPfPf] (two mechanics, two electricians, two computer techs)

1plt 1Sp[c - platoon comms][P - platoon medic]
1sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p - comms][f - medic]
2sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
3sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
4sqd s cpp(tac missile) cpp(battledress/fgmp14) [Pff](armor tech, weapons tech, mechanic)

2plt 1Sp[c][P]
1sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
2sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
3sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
4sqd s cpp cpp [Pff]

3plt 1Sp[c][P]
1sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
2sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
3sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
4sqd s cpp cpp [Pff]

14 infantry transport gigs, each with two pilots and capable of carrying 16 infantry
(for a previous needs-to-be-updated deckplan of the gig see my link below)

B Co (infantry)

cmnd 3sFSc [C]
sppt [CfPfPf]

1plt 1Sp[c][P]
1sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
2sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
3sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
4sqd s cpp cpp [Pff]

2plt 1Sp[c][P]
1sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
2sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
3sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
4sqd s cpp cpp [Pff]

3plt 1Sp[c][P]
1sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
2sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
3sqd s cppp cppp cppp [p][f]
4sqd s cpp cpp [Pff]

14 infantry gigs, each with two pilots and capable of carrying 16 infantry

C Co (armor)
cmnd 3sc[w] Fcp[w]
1plt 1sc[w] scp[w] Scp[w] scp[w]
2plt 1sc[w] scp[w] Scp[w] scp[w]

10 AFV's
(for a deckplan of the AFV see my link below)

D Co (electronic warfare/countermeasures/comms)
cmnd 3F
emw 1S ss[ww - warrant officer pilots] ss[ww] ss[ww]
comm 1S
A Co s cppp cppp cppp
B Co s cppp cppp cppp
on-call s cppp cppp cppp
ops center 1S scc scc scc

3 emw gigs, 1 infantry transport gig
(for a previous needs-to-be-updated deckplan of the emw gig see my link below)

E Co (special ops)
cmnd 3F
1sqd S sccc sccc sccc
2sqd S sccc sccc sccc
3sqd S sccc sccc sccc

4 infantry transport gigs

F Co (special teams)
cmnd 3F
exod S scpp scpp scpp
snip S scpp scpp scpp
rbts S scpp scpp scpp

3 infantry transport gigs

naval combat support department
----------------------------------------

hq
cmnd 54M
ofc 3CP

maintenance division
office 3CP
supply 1C Pff Pff
general maintenance 1C
mech C Pfff Pfff Pfff
elect C Pfff Pfff Pfff
weaps C Pfff Pfff Pfff
armor C Pfff Pfff Pfff
comp C Pfff Pfff Pfff
boats C Pfff Pfff Pfff C Pfff Pfff Pfff

1 cargo gig, 1 recovery gig, 1 infantry gig

medical division
cmnd 3CP
hospital 1C
doct 5 43 43 43
nurs 3 21 21 21
aides C PP[P - armor tech] PP[P] PP[P]
medics 1C
evac C PP[ww - warrant officers for each boat] PP[ww] PP[ww]
A Co C Pfff Pfff Pfff
B Co C Pfff Pfff Pfff
oncall C Pfff Pfff Pfff

3 ambulance gigs
(for a previous needs-to-be-updated deckplan of the ambulance gig see my link below)

flight division
cmnd 4CP
flt1 3C 2wwww 1wwww 2wwww 1wwww
flt2 3C 2wwww 1wwww 2wwww 1wwww
flt3 3C 2wwww 1wwww 2wwww 1wwww
flt4 3C 2wwww 1wwww 2wwww 1wwww
flt5 3C 2wwww 1wwww 2wwww 1wwww

2 command gigs, 2 infantry gigs

[gunnery division] (on loan from the alice gunnery department)
[2C 2C 2C]

 

[flykiller]

forgot.

the marine module includes:

stateroom space for each individual
1 lowberth for each individual
offices for each command
hospital (196 dtons - intake er, three operating theaters, six recovery, 8 in-patient, 20 lowberths)
maintenance (174 dtons - boat repair bay 100dtons, 3 armor repair bays, 6 weapons repair bays, one general repair bay)
assembly (300 dtons)
training facility (60 holobooth simulators with full processing support)
robotics facility (40 dtons)
operations center (40 dtons)
stores (457 dtons)

and it all fits