Colors for Domain Ribbons (CSR/CCR)

[Meteoric Assault]

I am for the sake of doing right by the cannon dogmatics going to make the CCR/CSRs. However I need some help/input on the colors. I have picked three already. Any input is welcome.



Deneb= Blue/White
Sol= Green/ Orange
Vland= Black and White
Sylea=
Illeish=
Anteres=
Delphi=

 

[whulorigan]

I am for the sake of doing right by the cannon dogmatics going to make the CCR/CSRs. However I need some help/input on the colors. I have picked three already. Any input is welcome.

Deneb= Blue/White
Sol= Green/ Orange
Vland= Black and White
Sylea=
Illeish=
Anteres=
Delphi=

1) There is no Domain of Delphi (Delphi is a Sector that is part of the Domain of Sylea). There is a Domain of Gateway, however.

2) In the absence of any other canon references, my suggestion for Sylea would be Gold (or Yellow) and Black, the colors on the Imperial Banner in the Throne Room of the Palace on Capital.

- OR -

Perhaps the colors of the Domain Ribbons could be based on the colors for the orders of the Knightly Domain-Order badges found in GT: Nobles:

Deneb= Blue & White
Sol= Blue & Gold (Yellow)
Vland= Black & Red
Sylea= Green & White
Ilelish= Black & White
Antares= Black & Green
Gateway= White & Red​

 

[Meteoric Assault]

Thanks

 

[Meteoric Assault]

Ilelish looks just like the '39 Iron Cross ribbon.... oops

 

[aramis]

Thanks

Domain level CSRs were mentioned in a quote from GTGF as being solid color. Sector level are 2 color.

So, taking the knighthood colors (as quoth by whulorigan):
Deneb= Blue & White
Sol= Blue & Gold (Yellow)
Vland= Black & Red
Sylea= Green & White
Ilelish= Black & White
Antares= Black & Green
Gateway= White & Red

The best fit single colors would be (sticking to the heraldric list**):
Deneb= Blue
Sol= Gold (Yellow)
Vland= Red (note that Vilani colors are red in all Traveller line games to date)
Sylea= Purple*
Ilelish= Black (Dlani reference)
Antares= Green
Gateway= White

Each of the four subsectors would have a different color.

* association with Royalty, and to avoid adding less distinct colors
** The heraldric system is a bit convoluted, but, incorproating all of them I've found in my copy of Fox Davies:

• Metals: Silver/White, Gold/Yellow, Skye Blue†, Pink†
• Colors: Black, Blue, Red, Green, Purple, Skye Blue†, Brown†
• Stains: Blood (which is rendered as a brownish red), Mulberry/Murray/Maroon (brownish purple), orange (Tenne - US Military), brown (Tenne - European Continental), light brown (Tenne - UK)

†little used even in the systems where it is allowed as such. Skye is a metal in a couple eastern european contexts; otherwise a color. Pink is used in a handful of achievements by name, and the one that comes to mind is black on pink. Dark Brown is allowed in US military heraldry as brown, and Tennay in french heraldry is a brown not dissimilar to wet sand...[/indent]

 

[Meteoric Assault]

I give up ...personally, GURPS is not my thing... somebody else can give it whirl. I will just stay in IMTU.

 

[aramis]

Looking at a copy of GTGF, here's the canon list:

MCUF: "The medal itself is an eight-sided piece, 1.25"
across, engraved with a soldier motioning others to follow him. Around the edge
of the engraving are the words With Great Merit and Dedication to the Service."

MCG: "The medal is hexagonal, similar in size to the MCUF with a gold tint. On the
medal's face is a depiction of Diirdi Khirashkur, a legendary Vilani folk hero who defeated an army by means of skill and trickery. Arcing over the depiction are the words For Gallantry."

SEH: "The Starburst is worn on a 1"-wide cloth ribbon around the neck. The medal is a 3" stylized Imperial Sunburst carved in precious stones of the correct branch color set in iridium. Engraved on the rear of the medal is With the Gratitude of the Emperor and Imperium, Our Thanks to (soldier's name) of (soldier's homeworld) for (His/Her) Actions on (place where metkzl was won) on (tkzte of action). The medal will be signed by an authorized Imperial official, usually a duke or archduke."

PH: "The Gikhikese is an oval badge worn on the uniform jacket, about 1.5" across. It depicts a winged figure holding a body in combat gear. The medal is finished in the correct color for the grade of award."

Goodness - two SEH's with diamonds is going to be GAUDY! And a bit uncomfortable. 2x 10cm disks of gemstone...

Note that Doug's system makes all the ribbons for these in service color.

Note also - this follows a 19th century mode where the medal is the only distinction, and if worn, the medalion is always worn, but the suspension ribbon is never worn without the medal...

 

[Nathan Brazil]

Remember that the Imperial Sunburst was declared by Empress Porfiria to have no official color. It had to do with some non-human race not being impressed with the then yellow Imperial Sunburst due to their vison working in the deep infrared range of frequencies. To show equality to all her subjects, she declared that the Starburst would therefore not have an official color. Keep this in mind if using the Imperial Sunburst in medals and ribbons.

 

[Meteoric Assault]

Remember that the Imperial Sunburst was declared by Empress Porfiria to have no official color. It had to do with some non-human race not being impressed with the then yellow Imperial Sunburst due to their vison working in the deep infrared range of frequencies. To show equality to all her subjects, she declared that the Starburst would therefore not have an official color. Keep this in mind if using the Imperial Sunburst in medals and ribbons.

oh thanks for stopping by and sharing....

 

[Redcap]

It's interesting to note that in relation to this, the Armed forces of the Imperium have four distinct colours for the sunburst:

Red: IISS
Yellow: Imperial Navy
Black: Imperial Army
Maroon: Imperial Marines

So, with Empress Porfiria not with standing, that's about as official as you're likely to get.

 

[aramis]

It's interesting to note that in relation to this, the Armed forces of the Imperium have four distinct colours for the sunburst:

Red: IISS
Yellow: Imperial Navy
Black: Imperial Army
Maroon: Imperial Marines

So, with Empress Porfiria not with standing, that's about as official as you're likely to get.

GT is canon except for events after 1115.

 

[Redcap]

Personally, while I really like the mechanics of MT, I don't care for the "Rebellion / Hard Times" Milieu/setting one bleeping jot (really: Do NOT get me started on it :rant: !). So, IMTU, we go with the GT "Lorenverse"

 

[Nathan Brazil]

With regards to the Sunburst, while the source is the MegaTraveller Encyclopedia, the event itself happened in the 200's and therefore occurred long before the OTU/Lorenverse split. I had thought that events that occurred pre-Rebellion are valid in both universes are they not? Or was it that simply coming from a MegaTraveller source causes one to invalidate the data out of hand even if it is pre-Rebellion information? While I can appreciate the humor Meteoric Assault in your post, I was trying to be sincerely helpful.

 

[Redcap]

I was also under the impression that the majority of imperial history, pre-1116, was canon from CT, MT, and GT as well. After the 'split', well, you pays your money and rolls yer dice

 

[Meteoric Assault]

With regards to the Sunburst, while the source is the MegaTraveller Encyclopedia, the event itself happened in the 200's and therefore occurred long before the OTU/Lorenverse split. I had thought that events that occurred pre-Rebellion are valid in both universes are they not? Or was it that simply coming from a MegaTraveller source causes one to invalidate the data out of hand even if it is pre-Rebellion information? While I can appreciate the humor Meteoric Assault in your post, I was trying to be sincerely helpful.

I am a CT guy, everything else is superfluous in my opinion.