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Death of wisdon novel

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I was going thru my stuff and I came across this novel set in the TNE. Does anyone know if the following two sequels were ever published? Or did it stop after GDW went out of business? Have they ever been available as a pdf? Will they be re-published? :(
 
I think the second one was published, but the thris was killed by the end of GDW. Not seen of heard anything about a PDF version.

There was a previous thread that covered this. The third part is in someones possession, but martin does not have the money at the moment (nor for the forseeable future) to buy out the licence. I am afraid it will always be an incomplete classic

Cheers
Richard
 
Yeah, the second part, "To Dream of Chaos," DID get published but the third installment, entitled "The Backwards Mask" never saw print. The novels aren't great but they're a fun read for anyone interested in TNE.
 
Not only do I not have the money, but there's little inclinaiton on my part to buy out the license, even if someone did have the Manucsript.

I really didn't rate these novels very highly.

I'm pointing this out mainly in case anyone thinks form this post that I plan to pursue the third novel in this series. Like I said beofre, it's a very, very low priority.
 
I am interested to hear about the opinion of others regarding novels. I had thought that there was potential in outlining some of the wierdness of the RC campaign. But, what sort of player/referee was Paul Brunette?

Clearly, he had some history with the game but made many mistakes. Does anyone know anything more about him? He was writing a general trilogy of D20 Science Fiction adventures for Gold Rush Games, but, the email they provide to contact him is a dead link. It is a pity that none of his ventures seem to pan out...
 
I thought "To Dream of Chaos" was a bit better than the first novel, "The Death of Wisdom." If you're familiar with TNE they're actually a fun read, but as with most poorly written sci-fi, you'll be tempted to skim for content rather than enjoy the narrative. My big problem with them is the staunchly anti-Imperial, anti-Guild, anti-anything-that-doesn't-begin-with-RC attitude that permeates the novels on ALL levels; i.e. the characters, the plot, the revised historical tidbits. I was actually laughing out loud when the main character (a fomer scout called Red Sun) off-handedly revealed that the Kinunir Colonial Cruiser was REALLY designed to oppress colony worlds. The last time we talked about the novels on this forum, that little fact sparked a lively and equally amusing debate about what, if anything, the Kinunir COULD opress...
 
RichardP wrote:

"I am afraid it will always be an incomplete classic"


Sir,

Having forced myself to read both of the so-called TNE novels, I must take great exception to your use of the word 'classic'. The TNE books were not novels to be put aside lightly, rather they should be thrown with great force. Everyone associated with them should be ashamed of themselves.

My thesaurus fails me when dealing with the TNE novels. Hopefully, they will find use in college courses as examples of what NOT to do when writing a novel. The TNE novels were so bad that they should have PAID us to read them. The staff at my town's dump removed the TNE novels from the paper recycling bin and placed them where they belonged; among the rest of the HAZARDOUS WASTE.

The TNE novels were 'Un-Books'.

Sincerely,
Larsen
 
I'll say this, the TNE novels were better than the T4 novel, Gateway to the Stars I think it was called? That thing ... *shudder* ...

Hunter
 
Originally posted by Larsen E. Whipsnade:
The TNE books were not novels to be put aside lightly, rather they should be thrown with great force. Everyone associated with them should be ashamed of themselves.
Sincerely,
Larsen
Now, don't hold back. Tell us what you *really* think!
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While not (we hope) the high point in science fiction noveldom, they are (as someone who has read thousands) a long piece from the bottom of the rack and they have been easily surpassed by a number of other much more highly touted manuscripts. IMO, of course, YMMV (and so might that of the texts you lob around....
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Originally posted by Larsen E. Whipsnade:
RichardP wrote:

"I am afraid it will always be an incomplete classic"


Sir,

Having forced myself to read both of the so-called TNE novels, I must take great exception to your use of the word 'classic'. The TNE books were not novels to be put aside lightly, rather they should be thrown with great force. Everyone associated with them should be ashamed of themselves.

My thesaurus fails me when dealing with the TNE novels. Hopefully, they will find use in college courses as examples of what NOT to do when writing a novel. The TNE novels were so bad that they should have been PAID us to read them. The staff at my town's dump removed the TNE novels from the paper recycling bin and placed them where they belonged; among the rest of the HAZARDOUS WASTE.

The TNE novels were 'Un-Books'.

Sincerely,
Larsen
Man, I love your rants! They make me laugh so much that I had to put a quote of yours from the Battlestar Galactica thread into my sig line! :D
 
Secrect Cow Level wrote:

"Man, I love your rants! They make me laugh so much that I had to put a quote of yours from the Battlestar Galactica thread into my sig line!"


Mr. Cow,

Why, thank you. One does try, although wiping the foam off the monitor and keyboard afterwards is a bit of a nuisance.

Seriously though, the TNE novels were shameful. Mind you, I studiously avoided the T4 novel. Given IG's track record with the T4 system materials, figuring that the T4 novel would 'inhale strenuously' was a no brainer.

I've yet to read a good novel set in a RPG setting, although I have come no where close to sampling them all. The few Dragonlance novels I read were barely servicable, I place them in the 'Nothing better to do while waiting in the dentist's office' catagory.

I enjoyed Mr. Stackpole's various bits of Shadowrun fiction published in GDW. Sadly, I know nothing of that RPG or it's mileau, so I don't know how well they 'fit' the setting.


Sincerely,
Larsen
 
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