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Gateway in the classical era (maybe OT?)

G K Zhukov

G K Zhukov

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I am generally satisfied with the GTD sourcebook, which I feel sets a standard for future Traveller worldbooks by anyone, but being as I am a fan of both the classical LBB's and TNE, I wondered if there were any plans to advance the setting from 993 to... er... 1107 or so?

Failing that, has any of my most respected Peers used the Gateway Domain as presented by QLI (not by Judges Guild) in later periods?

I know the Domain wouldn't suffer many dramatic changes (mostly a few F Tech Levels here and there, a little variation in the frontier lines, etc.), but I am always uneasy when MTU is in risk of colliding with the Canon (sound the drums).

Thanks a bunch, friends.
 
IIRC someone came up with a formula here on CotI for converting Golden Age worlds back to 993 which could be used to do the opposite. Gateway sector in the MT era was covered in DJP's MTJ#4 though I haven't compared the worlds to the Gateway book to see what changes were made.

I'd be tempted to use Gateway in TNE/1248.
 
Originally posted by G K Zhukov:
Gateway Domain sure sounds like a DANGEROUS place in TNE...
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Yes. There is at least one thread on possibles in the playtest thread for 1248 but they didn't get so far. I never put much thought to it sadly and should go back to it sometime.
 
Casey,

I created the method for converting UWPs from CT Era to Gateway Era, using three CT Era files for three out of the four Gateway Domain sectors (only Crucis Margin was created wholy independent of work Marc Miller had already produced, so the non-JG CT Era data is out there if you look hard enough.)

The conversion method has been submitted as an article to QLI, but given that it appears that articles aren't posted any more, I've asked Hunter if he has plans to do so in the near future. If he doesn't want the article or have plans to put it out soon on the QLI website, I'll release it in an upcoming issue of the Stellar Reaches fanzine.

I may have to return to that thread sometime in TNE 1248 and post some thoughts on what those sectors look like in the 1248 timeline. ;) Thanks for reminding me.

Enjoy,
Flynn
 
Originally posted by Flynn:
I created the method for converting UWPs from CT Era to Gateway Era, using three CT Era files for three out of the four Gateway Domain sectors
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I may have to return to that thread sometime in TNE 1248 and post some thoughts on what those sectors look like in the 1248 timeline. ;) Thanks for reminding me.
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Cool, hope to see it sometime somewhere.

Offhand is the version of Gateway Sector in MTJ#4 more or less compatible with Gateway to Destiny? I'm not that good at comparing pages of UWPs.


yw, that thread has some potential
 
They're fairly compatible, actually. In those regards, I think there might be a small handful of worlds that didn't make the cut (I can't remember the specifics now), but the rest have the same physical characteristics, so to me, the UWP data between the two are about 99% compatible.

Hope this helps,
Flynn
 
Here's the basic analysis results I came up with, if it helps:

GATEWAY:

Number of Worlds in CT Sector: 283
(Number of Worlds in QLI Sector: 284)
Number of Unchanged Worlds: 39
Number of Worlds Not Found: 0
Number of Worlds With Changed Physical Data: 4
Starports on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=203; Average Change=0 (-3) Range (-2 to 2)
Modified -6: 0
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 5
Modified -1: 14
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 15
Modified 2: 3
Modified 3: 0
Modified 4: 0
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 0
Populations on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=160; Average Change=1 (125) Range (-1 to 5)
Modified -6: 0
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 0
Modified -1: 9
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 29
Modified 2: 26
Modified 3: 12
Modified 4: 3
Modified 5: 1
Modified 6: 0
Governments on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=189; Average Change=0 (5) Range (-12 to 10)
LawLevels on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=179; Average Change=0 (-54) Range (-11 to 7)
TechLevels on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=168; Average Change=0 (-5)
Modified -6: 1
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 0
Modified -1: 36
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 33
Modified 2: 2
Modified 3: 0
Modified 4: 0
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 0
Range (-6 to 2)
PopMods on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=75; Average Change=0 (-115) Range (-8 to 8)
Maximum CT Tech Level=15
Maximum QLI Tech Level=15
Worlds Where Travel Zones Changed=1
Worlds That Lost Bases=1
Worlds That Gained Bases=1

CT UWP : Corstation 0825 CA0A000-7 Ic Ba 011 Ga NO STARS;
QLI UWP: Corstation 0825 C00A100-6 As Ic Lo Ni Wa 811 Ga M7 V M0 D
CT UWP : Gateway 1220 AA62688-B Ri Ni 822 Ga NO STARS;
QLI UWP: Gateway 1220 A062688-A As Ni Ri 622 Ga F0 V A2 D
CT UWP : Waystation 2434 CA00749-A De Va 410 Na NO STARS;
QLI UWP: Waystation 2434 C000749-A As Na 410 Na K9 V
CT UWP : Jasper's Ring 2836 DA00779-C 114 Na NO STARS;
QLI UWP: Jasper’s Ring 2836 D000779-C As Na 214 Na M5 V

GLIMMERDRIFT REACHES:

Number of Worlds in CT Sector: 350
(Number of Worlds in QLI Sector: 349)
Number of Unchanged Worlds: 42
Number of Worlds Not Found: 4
Number of Worlds With Changed Physical Data: 1
Starports on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=251; Average Change=0 (9) Range (-2 to 2)
Modified -6: 0
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 5
Modified -1: 18
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 21
Modified 2: 8
Modified 3: 0
Modified 4: 0
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 0
Populations on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=198; Average Change=1 (132) Range (-1 to 6)
Modified -6: 0
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 0
Modified -1: 14
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 54
Modified 2: 22
Modified 3: 14
Modified 4: 0
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 1
Governments on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=259; Average Change=0 (-14) Range (-8 to 6)
LawLevels on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=251; Average Change=-1 (-61) Range (-7 to 5)
TechLevels on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=198; Average Change=0 (-21)
Modified -6: 0
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 2
Modified -1: 61
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 41
Modified 2: 0
Modified 3: 1
Modified 4: 0
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 0
Range (-2 to 3)
PopMods on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=93; Average Change=0 (22) Range (-8 to 8)
Maximum CT Tech Level=16
Maximum QLI Tech Level=16
Worlds Where Travel Zones Changed=45
Worlds That Lost Bases=45
Worlds That Gained Bases=45

CT UWP : 0105 C596444-7 Ni 923 Na K4 V M4 D;
QLI UWP: Ker 0105 D89A225-7 Lo Ni Wa 722 Na K4 V A4 D

LEY:

Number of Worlds in CT Sector: 387
(Number of Worlds in QLI Sector: 387)
Number of Unchanged Worlds: 77
Number of Worlds Not Found: 0
Number of Worlds With Changed Physical Data: 6
Starports on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=259; Average Change=0 (12) Range (-2 to 3)
Modified -6: 0
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 2
Modified -1: 19
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 14
Modified 2: 9
Modified 3: 1
Modified 4: 0
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 0
Populations on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=188; Average Change=2 (232) Range (-1 to 6)
Modified -6: 0
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 0
Modified -3: 0
Modified -2: 0
Modified -1: 4
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 39
Modified 2: 32
Modified 3: 33
Modified 4: 7
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 1
Governments on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=259; Average Change=0 (17) Range (-7 to 7)
LawLevels on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=240; Average Change=-1 (-104) Range (-17 to 12)
TechLevels on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=199; Average Change=0 (-11)
Modified -6: 1
Modified -5: 0
Modified -4: 2
Modified -3: 2
Modified -2: 2
Modified -1: 47
Modified 0: 0
Modified 1: 46
Modified 2: 3
Modified 3: 0
Modified 4: 2
Modified 5: 0
Modified 6: 0
Range (-6 to 4)
PopMods on Changed Worlds:
Unchanged=90; Average Change=0 (-99) Range (-8 to 8)
Maximum CT Tech Level=16
Maximum QLI Tech Level=15
Worlds Where Travel Zones Changed=25
Worlds That Lost Bases=25
Worlds That Gained Bases=25

CT UWP : 0101 A545403-C N Ni A 404 Im K8 D;
QLI UWP: Amikell 0101 D720889-3 De Na Po 404 Im K8 V
CT UWP : 0811 C46468D-7 Ag Ni Ri 700 Im G7 D M2 D;
QLI UWP: Luur 0811 A56A770-C Ri Wa 700 IL G7 V M2 D
CT UWP : Daramm 0812 A455A77-E N Hi 520 Im K0 V;
QLI UWP: DARAMM 0812 A76AA76-E B Hi Wa 620 IL K0 V
CT UWP : 1413 B110543-9 Ni 400 Im G2 V;
QLI UWP: Shah Moran 1413 B7A8660-9 Fl Ni 300 Im G2 V
CT UWP : 1638 C645557-9 Ag Ni 602 Im F4 V M2 D;
QLI UWP: Shusknuu 1638 D440110-7 S De Lo Ni Po 300 Im F4 V M2 D
CT UWP : 2808 A778743-A Ag 700 Cs F7 VI;
QLI UWP: Impress 2808 D377310-8 S Lo Ni 600 Na F3 V

Enjoy,
Flynn
 
The mods above are from CT to 990, since that was the intent of my analysis. Note that the Gateway Domain is a lot more populated in 993 than in 1105. Makes you wonder why there's such a heavy drop in Pop, doesn't it? ;)

I took the above, along with some words with MJD on his approach to the matter, and came up with a complete "collapse" method for rolling a CT/MT Era sector back to the Gateway Era. That's how I came up with the Empty Quarter sector for 993, for the Stellar Reaches fanzine.

We'll see the final version on either QLI's Moot or in Stellar Reaches within the next six months, I'm sure.

Hope this helps,
Flynn
 
Originally posted by Flynn:
The conversion method has been submitted as an article to QLI, but given that it appears that articles aren't posted any more, I've asked Hunter if he has plans to do so in the near future. If he doesn't want the article or have plans to put it out soon on the QLI website, I'll release it in an upcoming issue of the Stellar Reaches fanzine.
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Flynn, reshoot me the article if you would.

Hunter
 
Hunter,

The article has been resent, to both grip@ and trav@rpgrealms.com. Please let me know if it meets with your approval.

Did you also receive my other email, regarding the CY Catalog order?

Thanks in advance for your time,
Flynn
 
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