GURPS Traveller Deck Plans

[plazman30]

So, I'm on this quest now to collect GURPS Traveller in physical form. When I looked at GURPS Traveller a few years ago, I was researching the GURP Traveller CD-ROMs, and the second CD-ROM has deck plans. The PDF says what's on the CD says the deck plans for every ship is available in 3 different styles: hex and square, hex, square.

So this leads to three questions:

1. Are there 3 different PDFs for each deck plan on the CD-ROM?
2. Are there 3 different physical products available also?
3. If there is a hex and square edition, why is there also a separate hex and a separate square version?

 

[kilemall]

So, I'm on this quest now to collect GURPS Traveller in physical form. When I looked at GURPS Traveller a few years ago, I was researching the GURP Traveller CD-ROMs, and the second CD-ROM has deck plans. The PDF says what's on the CD says the deck plans for every ship is available in 3 different styles: hex and square, hex, square.

So this leads to three questions:

1. Are there 3 different PDFs for each deck plan on the CD-ROM?
2. Are there 3 different physical products available also?
3. If there is a hex and square edition, why is there also a separate hex and a separate square version?

Don’t know the story on the product, but hex and square would be a separate tile type. I believe the theory is that it captures diagonal movement cost more realistically.

 

[tjoneslo]

GURPS, as a game system, has used hexes for movement and floor plans since the days of Melee and Wizard. So having SJGames print deck plans meant they were going to be done with hexes. Since every previous version of Traveller used squares, Steve and Loren compromised and printed both.

 

[infojunky]

So, I'm on this quest now to collect GURPS Traveller in physical form. When I looked at GURPS Traveller a few years ago, I was researching the GURP Traveller CD-ROMs, and the second CD-ROM has deck plans. The PDF says what's on the CD says the deck plans for every ship is available in 3 different styles: hex and square, hex, square.

So this leads to three questions:

1. Are there 3 different PDFs for each deck plan on the CD-ROM?
2. Are there 3 different physical products available also?
3. If there is a hex and square edition, why is there also a separate hex and a separate square version?

Ok, just pulled up my copies of the Gurps Deckplans PDFs. And I have owned the physical editions as well. They had 36" hexes on one side and 1.5 meter squares on the other.

 

[whartung]

They had 36" hexes on one side and 1.5 meter squares on the other.

"One side" of what?

The page? Front of the page is hexes, back side is squares? So, they print each deck plan twice?

 

[infojunky]

"One side" of what?

The page? Front of the page is hexes, back side is squares? So, they print each deck plan twice?

Sorry the printed plans... The PDFs they are separate pages.

 

[plazman30]

So, just to confirm, if I buy physical copies of the deck plans, one side will be hexes and one side will be squares?

I'm just curious why the CD says it has 3 versions of the deck plans. Since I don't own the CDs, I can't tell you. And I don't see the PDFs for deck plans for sale on Warehouse23.com or drivethrurpg.com. So, it looks like the CD-ROM is the only way to get them.

 

[plazman30]

Are the cardboard heroes perforated for easy removal, or do you need to cut them out with scissors?

 

[aramis]

Are the cardboard heroes perforated for easy removal, or do you need to cut them out with scissors?

If they match the prior ones, scissors. You gain little other than thickness of the card and glossiness over having them printed on coverstock at the local copyshop (or your own color printer).

 

[Condottiere]

I'm not sure which box or game this came with, but you could have had two transparent plastic sheets, and have either squares or hexes printed on them, while the deckplans remain gridless.

 

[aramis]

I'm not sure which box or game this came with, but you could have had two transparent plastic sheets, and have either squares or hexes printed on them, while the deckplans remain gridless.

One I recall...
Forgotten Realms boxed set.

I know I've at least one other, but can't recall which.

 

[plazman30]

Sounds like it's not really worth buying the physical product for these, especially for the price they go for on the used market. I assumed they be big fold-out sheets. But eBay showed me they're just 8½×11 sheets of paper. I can print these myself if I really want them.

I've seen these on eBay either in ziploc bag or shrink wrapped. I has assumed the shrink wrap was the original packaging and the ziploc bag was just how they sell them on the used market, once open. Then I saw a listing for a used one with full description of it's condition, and it was in shrink wrap.

So, now I have to ask: how were these sold originally?

 

[whartung]

So, now I have to ask: how were these sold originally?

They were just sold as books. On a shelf, thumb through them if you like.

Now, some stores might have shrink wrapped them for some "we hate customers" reason, but in general, they're just books.

Collectors put them in plastic so that they suffer less cover wear when being moved and handled.

 

[infojunky]

Sounds like it's not really worth buying the physical product for these, especially for the price they go for on the used market. I assumed they be big fold-out sheets. But eBay showed me they're just 8½×11 sheets of paper. I can print these myself if I really want them.

The printed ones where larger that 8.5 by 11, but they where folded to that size....

I found the PDFs are more usable in that I can scale them... I use 15mm figures.

 

[plazman30]

They were just sold as books. On a shelf, thumb through them if you like.

Now, some stores might have shrink wrapped them for some "we hate customers" reason, but in general, they're just books.

Collectors put them in plastic so that they suffer less cover wear when being moved and handled.

I think you're confused by two different GURPS products. There were ship books like this:

GURPS Traveller Classic: Modular Cutter

The Ship of a Thousand Uses With its legendary utility and flexibility, the 50-ton modular cutter has spread across the Imperium. Its interchangeable payloads can turn cargo hauler into battle craft or research vessel in the time it takes to unlock one module and load the next. For the first...

warehouse23.com

And deck plans:

Deck Plan 2: Modular Cutter - Traveller

wiki.travellerrpg.com

 

[plazman30]

The printed ones where larger that 8.5 by 11, but they where folded to that size....

I found the PDFs are more usable in that I can scale them... I use 15mm figures.

Ok, thank you. I'm just trying to make sure I'm not paying a premium for something someone made on their printer at home.

 

[infojunky]

Ok, thank you. I'm just trying to make sure I'm not paying a premium for something someone made on their printer at home.

A note on these, I got the paper ones 1st. After looking at them I figured they would be easier to use if they were mounted on foam-core. Hence the purchase of the PDFs.

I would show y'all how they came out, but years ago the mounted ones got sold/gifted to another Traveller Group.

 

[plazman30]

A note on these, I got the paper ones 1st. After looking at them I figured they would be easier to use if they were mounted on foam-core. Hence the purchase of the PDFs.

I would show y'all how they came out, but years ago the mounted ones got sold/gifted to another Traveller Group.

I wish there was a way to buy the deck plans without having to get the whole CD-ROM. I'd just like one PDF to check it out.

 

[coliver988]

I wish there was a way to buy the deck plans without having to get the whole CD-ROM. I'd just like one PDF to check it out.

think you can buy individual PDFs on DriveThru or perhaps SJG site. but at $35 (last I checked) makes more sense to me at any rate to just get the CD. I have it and enjoy looking through deckplans (even if the cutter modules are like a TARDIS: larger on the inside than they should be for 6m diameter cylinders)

 

[plazman30]

I may go that route. I checked Warehouse23 and DriveThruRPG. They both sell a lot of GURPS Traveller products, but not the deck plans.

I'm curious how much longer those CD-ROMs will still be around now that Mongoose owns Traveller. I'm thinking of picking up the JTAS one. The description looks like it's the entirety of SJG JTAS online dumped onto a CD. That sounds kind of cool.