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My (star) kingdom for a resurrection scroll.....

Damn. We just keep getting reminded that it's all make-believe and no one lives for 800 years...
 
I could just cry... his post office box has not been more than 7 blocks from my home until one year ago. I used to live at 1896 Grand Ave and then moved to four blocks off Lexington and Grand.

I could have had beers with him.

Groganardia said:
Shortly after 11pm on Tuesday, April 7th, Dave Arneson passed away. He was comfortable and with family at the time and his passing was peaceful.

The Arneson family would like to thank everyone for their support over the last few days, and for the support the entire community has shown Dave over the years.

We are in the process of making final arrangements and will provide additional details as we work them out. We will continue to receive cards and letters in Dave's honor. We are planning to hold a public visitation so that anyone wishing to say their goodbye in person has the opportunity to do so.

Cards and letters can continue to be sent:
Dave Arneson
1043 Grand Avenue
Box #257
St. Paul, MN
55105

Visitation will be on April 20th
Time: yet to be determined
Address:
Bradshaw Funeral Home
687 Snelling Avenue South
St. Paul, MN 55105

Well, a couple of my friends and I have buried a few mates in that same funeral home so we're going to wish the guy a hearty thanks. Beers at the Muddy Pig afterwards. It's a Saint Paul thing and we owe him after 22 years of gaming pleasure.
 
It's looking to be another rough year on game designers.

Last year we lost Gary Gygax and Eric Wujick. This year, Dave Arnesson. Aaron Allston is in hospital and not doing well.
 
I never did much D&D. I thought the rules didn't fully represent the middle ages as I understood them, but I appreciated the escapist quality the setting and modules provided.

I'm sorry he's passed on.

Gamers seem to die a little earlier than most. Guys, please get out and exercise a little. The longer you live, the more you can game.
 
I never did much D&D. I thought the rules didn't fully represent the middle ages as I understood them, but I appreciated the escapist quality the setting and modules provided.

I'm sorry he's passed on.

Gamers seem to die a little earlier than most. Guys, please get out and exercise a little. The longer you live, the more you can game.

The more time I spend exercising, the less time i spend gaming now! :devil:




(Just kidding; good advice)
 
I thought the rules didn't fully represent the middle ages as I understood them,

They were never intended to do that.

They were intended to allow individuals to play within the types of Fantasy worlds that they were reading about... Conan, Middle-Earth, Jack Vance's novels, Poul Anderson's non-historical fantasy... etc.

D&D was about Heroic Fantasy, NOT "historical re-creation".

It was never intended to be a "Society for Creative Anachronism-game".
 
What's the average on this board? We are all getting older and time keeps marching onward. This is just another reminder that we all need to get our house in order and keep it that way.
 
BlackBat; I guess I would disagree with that, but perhaps only partially. I played basic D&D with three friends one Sunday, and found it very entertaining, but was dismayed that I couldn't bring in full fledged knight.

I appreciate the creations by Gygax and Anerson, and the spinoffs they inspired. But when I see all the spikey hair, oversized sword and mish mash of cultures, I often think that the spirit of the history which those games are supposed to pay homage is truncated and defeated.

It's like the fantasy genre is now a free-for-all, as long as there are swords and spells. I don't know what Anerson's nor Gygax's thoughts were regarding the mutation of the genre, but I know it seems very overwrought to me.
 
I do know what EGG's view was... he had (for years) until his death, a Q&A thread on Dragonsfoot (actually, there were so many posts that there were 12+ threads of a couple hundred posts each).

There is also a section there devoted to his new RPG Lejendary Adventures, in which he posted frequently.

He addressed this subject repeatedly, and he was really unhappy with the direction RPG games had gone... and really advocated the style of the early game (original D&D and AD&D [1E]).

He also stated (repeatedly) in both those early works and anytime someone asked him on-line, that D&D/AD&D was NOT supposed to be a simulation of historical characters/settings/world/etc, but was supposed to be fantasy... preferably fantasy created by the DM & players.

If you wanted to use something historical for inspiration, more power to you... but he opposed trying to use the game to play historically "there are plenty of historical games that let you do that".

A later AD&D book (Unearthed Arcana, 1985) did include the Cavalier class... intended to be a fantasy counterpart of the historical knight, but not to be the historical knight.
 
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