non canon (yet) question
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hunter
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Huh? I'm not sure what you are referring to.
far-trader
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I'm only guessing here but I think you might be referring to what is commonly called fuel skimming.
Generally the practice involves simply diving into the upper atmo of a gas giant (like a Jupiter or Saturn) and collecting gases to covert to raw Liquid Hydrogen (the LYHYD you noted, typically abbreviated LHYD).
Another option is settling on/into/near a liquid water source and pumping the water in to convert to LHYD.
The third and more time consuming option is the one involving using the ship's radiators. In this scenario you melt frozen liquid water or other ices to collect and convert to LHYD. In all the above cases the fuel in not pure and prone to causing drive failure and misjump.
I think that covers the questions.
Generally the practice involves simply diving into the upper atmo of a gas giant (like a Jupiter or Saturn) and collecting gases to covert to raw Liquid Hydrogen (the LYHYD you noted, typically abbreviated LHYD).
Another option is settling on/into/near a liquid water source and pumping the water in to convert to LHYD.
The third and more time consuming option is the one involving using the ship's radiators. In this scenario you melt frozen liquid water or other ices to collect and convert to LHYD. In all the above cases the fuel in not pure and prone to causing drive failure and misjump.
I think that covers the questions.
thanx
"An idea I saw ( admittedly TNE-TML fandom, thus not "canon" ) by Peter Gray, was of a technique he attributed back to the Solomani Nth wars (in his TU) called "icing".
For you jump field/ bubble believers, and those not--this was a series of "radiators" designed to hold deuterium Lyhyd "iced" onto the hull (surface external area) of a ship.
Naturally this was refined fuel and had to be done at B-class starport system or better.
These 'radiators' also then took said "iced" fuel off said hull, into said powerplant and left the internal tanks free for either a second jump without refuleing as ship jumped away.
Militarily, if you jumped into a bees nest, you could escape on your internal tanakge. Commercially, it allowed his Imperial Regency to extend the range of older commercial ships without serious affect to shipyards, at a cost cheaper than adding BIGGER jump drives to already existing ships behind the Viral Quarantine for trade into the Spinward States.
I thought it an elegant solution commercially and militarily myself, but its Pete's idea, not mine. Nor is it canon.
But scientifically, It could be done!
Never forget, if you're the GM you're the boss of what "is", and "isn't" in your Traveller Universe. Due to the nature of the game's evolving into a bigger and bigger stage, the retcons, add-ons, and so forth have become part and parcel of countless discussions..
Great shtuff guys.. moving on now, we've a runaway hulk headed for a small world to stop and 40 "game hours" to do it in
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found in empty hexes and jump drives
abbrev LHYD makes more sense
byron
"An idea I saw ( admittedly TNE-TML fandom, thus not "canon" ) by Peter Gray, was of a technique he attributed back to the Solomani Nth wars (in his TU) called "icing".
For you jump field/ bubble believers, and those not--this was a series of "radiators" designed to hold deuterium Lyhyd "iced" onto the hull (surface external area) of a ship.
Naturally this was refined fuel and had to be done at B-class starport system or better.
These 'radiators' also then took said "iced" fuel off said hull, into said powerplant and left the internal tanks free for either a second jump without refuleing as ship jumped away.
Militarily, if you jumped into a bees nest, you could escape on your internal tanakge. Commercially, it allowed his Imperial Regency to extend the range of older commercial ships without serious affect to shipyards, at a cost cheaper than adding BIGGER jump drives to already existing ships behind the Viral Quarantine for trade into the Spinward States.
I thought it an elegant solution commercially and militarily myself, but its Pete's idea, not mine. Nor is it canon.
But scientifically, It could be done!
Never forget, if you're the GM you're the boss of what "is", and "isn't" in your Traveller Universe. Due to the nature of the game's evolving into a bigger and bigger stage, the retcons, add-ons, and so forth have become part and parcel of countless discussions..
Great shtuff guys.. moving on now, we've a runaway hulk headed for a small world to stop and 40 "game hours" to do it in
[/QUOTE]"found in empty hexes and jump drives
abbrev LHYD makes more sense
byron
far-trader
SOC-14 10K
Ah, might have heard of that once*. Can't recall what the problems were but they could be many depending on the rule set in use. Jump grid needing to cover the ice volume, etc. Seems to me it'd be cheaper (or just as cheap) to simply use the very old canon drop tanks (retained through jump and fueling the initial jump, then dumped on the other end and you still have your internals full and you're ready for whatever, with the bonus of a "lighter" ship so better maneuver and jump.
*I still skim all of Peter's posted work, even if I'm not using it at the moment. The sheer quantity and high quality of his TNE work is phenomenal.
But it's true, YTU is whatever you make of it
*I still skim all of Peter's posted work, even if I'm not using it at the moment. The sheer quantity and high quality of his TNE work is phenomenal.
But it's true, YTU is whatever you make of it
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pendragonman
Absent Friends Margrave
LHYD= Liquid HYDrogen. Starship fuel. As LOX is Liquid OXygen, LHYD is Liquid Hydrogen.
