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Planetes

I'm not sure how many of you read manga for inspiration out there, but for those who do I'd like to direct your attention to a wonderful series. The title is Planetes by Makoto Yukimura and it is about the lives of a crew of orbital debris collectors in 2075. Good artwork, fantastic and original story, plus it is hard science to boot. Each of the five books can be picked up at Borders in the USA for about $10 each (not sure how to get them besides Amazon or ebay outside of the USA).
 
Originally posted by Jeff M. Hopper:
I'm not sure how many of you read manga for inspiration out there, but for those who do I'd like to direct your attention to a wonderful series.
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The current manga format in the US is a good combination of price and length compared to regular comic books and competitive with novels. With the range now available there are some excellent titles and genres to choose from. They’re well worth trying out IMO. Tokyopop (Planetes’ publisher) tends to have a yearly sampler freebie with some coupons and Borders/Waldenbooks just had a buy 2 get 1 free promotion for all manga titles.

Tokyopop's Planetes website (link)
some places where you can find Tokyopop manga

I would also recommend 2001 Nights published by Viz. An older title it should either still be in print or be fairly easy to track down used. Very much worth the search.

Tokyopop has released the Seikai Trilogy (link) (the anime is known as Banner/Crest of the New Stars and has been shown on TechTV). ObTrav would be the son of Sword Worlder noble serving in the Darrian Navy.

Del Rey manga (link) is another publisher to watch. So far they've only released the Gundam Seed (link) manga (the latest Gundam series and a successful blend of new trends with the original series’ feel) in the sci-fi genre but their books are quality with color front papers and also the usage and explanation of the Japanese honorifics. They seem to have a good eye for series.

While Gundam Seed does have Gundams (i.e. big piloted robots; at least Gundams are presented as vehicles and there is a scientific handwave) it also has the Spacer vs. Earth conflict and has some interesting space colony and spaceship designs. This time around the NewType analogues are gengineered.

I don’t know much about manga distribution say in Europe. I used to get one of the UK zines but it’s been years. I know anime at least caught on earlier in parts of Europe and Canada than it did in the US.

HTH.
 
Hmm, a friend showed me several episodes of an anime that sounds just like this, but I can't remember the title. I wonder if it was the same thing. <scratches head />
 
I picked up the first three volumes in one of Sweden's mainstream book chains called Bokia. It was in one of their Stockholm shops so I would expect a good selection, but I was still impressed. The last two volumes were bought at a Forbidden Planet in England.
It's a great series that could make a nice low-key Traveller or 2300AD game.
 
Originally posted by thrash:
There is a Planetes anime, but it hasn't been released in the US. If you saw it raw, or with sketchy subtitles, that might indeed be it.
I usually see a great deal, about a year in advance, thanks to a friend.

I've seen more than half of Samurai 7, the fantastic new Gonzo series airing now, and we're watching Oh! My Goddess TV right now. We'll see a couple of episodes on friday. I saw all of Read or Die TV, Wolf's Rain, etc., etc., all about a year before they came out. Of course, being the super die-hard anime fan with racks of anime at his house, he buys it all as soon as it becomes available. (Yes, it's downloads of fansubber activity in Japan.)

On top of that, Funimation, Bandai, and ADV send him stuff to "preview", and I and various "others" who happen to be there are all "persuaded" to take part in surveys about these preview materials. The Funimation preview pages have two main sections about the respondant's favorite anime.

1) List Your Five Favorite Anime Titles.

2) List Your Five Favorite Anime Titles not Licensed in the US.


I guess they just sort of assume . . .
 
Casey,

After looking at your links, I reviewed the artwork, and I'm pretty sure I've seen the first two episodes quite some time ago.
 
I've been writing in Gunslinger Girl in Funimation's surveys for quite a while now.

Guess what? Funimation has licensed it. :D

The GNs have been coming out at a snail's pace (but then, it's still being written in Japan, so that means the story is continuing on).

GG isn't very Traveller, except it's subject matter perhaps could be one of those "famous" incidents that, if the form of it were transplanted into the OTU, crystalized the Imperium's widely-felt anti-cybernetics attitude.
 
Originally posted by RainOfSteel:
Guess what? Funimation has licensed it. :D

GG isn't very Traveller, except it's subject matter perhaps could be one of those "famous" incidents that, if the form of it were transplanted into the OTU, crystalized the Imperium's widely-felt anti-cybernetics attitude.
(after reading summary) :eek: I'd agree! Mix that and bits from the Animatrix and you're there. This looks like one of those shows *NOT* to watch in one sitting or on a dreary day.

Official site
The manga is being released by ADV and there's at least one volume out so far. ADV doesn't seem to have a seperate site for it but I have problems with finding things on their site.
Funmation's site for the show
ANN's entry

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(edit) adjusted/added linkage; general editing
 
Sorry for the Thread Necromancy, but I've just picked up and seen the first five episodes of the Planetes anime. Its good stuff. I give it the Official Jeff Hopper Seal of Approval and declare it well worth the money. This is a low key show that concentrates on the character-driven plot, it'd make a great background for a low-level Traveller game. The surprise gem is on the second disk in the set, it includes interviews with guys from NASA's Debris Research Section - some very interesting science here.

I recommend viewing this if not buying it outright.
 
I love this picture. Very Traveller


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It actually reminds me of my Florian Cockpit, except that it's more interesting!

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Originally posted by Takei:
How far along the story does the anime go, relative to the manga?
So far it seems like they've streamlined some of the plotline and tweaked it slightly, which often happens. I'll continue to finish buying the manga as it's more portable and looks different enough to justify having both.

The AnimeonDVD review of DVD 1 is now complete. Some highlights:

(on the video quality)
It's rich in detail, design and colors and comes to life in its own way. So much research went into it that the details are all over and the design is given a real-world color palette so it has lots of interesting tones to it.
(from extras)
With this series being such a favorite of a number of NASA folks during its initial run, they were more than happy to get involved in the US release and provide some real-world facts and details.
(from the summary)
Planetes is the series that will appeal heavily to those looking for something that's more mature but still fun and engaging to watch. It keeps things close to reality and is the type of show that like some of the best science fiction novels could serve as a blueprint for what needs to be done and what you can expect in the future. Things that now seem like the fantastic will one day be the common and this show takes that theme and runs with it beautifully while draping it with interesting and fun characters that give it so much life. This is one of those shows that is rare when it comes along and feeds a need that I know a lot of people have deep inside them that is so rare taken care of. This is not a release to wait around for but one to enjoy and savor as much as possible. Very highly recommended.
I couldn't have put it any better.
 
Originally posted by Casey:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Takei:
How far along the story does the anime go, relative to the manga?
So far it seems like they've streamlined some of the plotline and tweaked it slightly, which often happens. I'll continue to finish buying the manga as it's more portable and looks different enough to justify having both.

</font>[/QUOTE]It still seems pretty close to the manga so far, well so far when I've only seen 5 episodes. Its just nice to see more stories about the "common man" in a science fiction setting.

Hmmm, odd thought here. I wonder how difficult it would be to attain the liscensing needed to use Planetes as an Alternate Traveller Universe for T20?
 
Originally posted by kafka47:
Lovely work, both of you...except get the kids out of the cockpit (you know my aversion to anime) and put in some honest to goodness photo realistic individuals.

Like this one:
Also see my previous post.

That's not currently viable for tv cel animation. You're comparing two different mediums and methods of composition, with differing budgets and different goals. Both are good examples and succeed in their goals. I wouldn't expect cel animation to look like a novel cover painting that incorporates photos (which still looks stylized and "unreal" to me; I can still see the “brushstrokes” and the technique used to trick the eye). Digital animation no matter the country of origin still isn't up to seamless quality yet and is still very expensive and not viable for a tv show, especially if it has a typical tv budget for Japan.

As for the kids comment, those two characters are indeed the youngest ones. The character on the left is the rookie. In the manga she's a 12 year old born and raised on the Moon (i.e. low grav) and “part of a long study regarding the effects of space on human development.” (source) In the anime they changed her age to 20 and IIRC dropped the born on Luna angle. Both characters start out in 2075 cleaning up space junk (the lowest space job around) and are later in training for a mission to Jupiter. Also keep in mind the intended audience, who are likely to be more interested if they can identify with the main characters. Having a 40 or 50 year old average looking veteran as the main character isn’t the case in most tv shows anywhere, live action or animated, however unrealistic it might be.

The eyes and facial expressions look to be within the range of a person with epicanthal folds* and other typically Japanese facial features. There’s possibly some slight exaggeration but for similar reasons to why Classical Greek Drama uses exaggerated costumes, to draw attention to and distinguish the character. It’s also a technique that originated with and is still used by Disney, the eyes are the windows to the soul thing. All of this is used to clue in the viewer about a character and their current emotional state, one of many such visual cues. Manga and Anime are mediums with a short deadline and usually small budgets that need to convey a lot of information quickly.

If such stylistic conventions prevent you from watching or reading Planetes, well that's your choice to make. IMO you'd be missing out on an excellent series (in either format, manga or anime tv show) and a good story about wanting to be an astronaut for what is just a medium and cultural convention, one not overly used in Planetes.

As always, hope this helps and your mileage may vary.

* as an example, here are two pictures of Ayu, a current top Japanese pop singer and celebrity. She's done many popular music videos, commercials, and ads and is 26, about the same age as the character on the right (25) in the Planetes image.
Image 1
Image 2

(edit: fixed images; original source)
 
Originally posted by thrash:
Nitpick: the 12-year old Lunarian girl is Nona; Tanabe Ai (pictured above) was always a different character.
Oops! You are correct. Which makes both of the characters depicted above definitely not kids in either the manga or video.

- Casey needs to get the rest of the mangas stat!
 
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