Rules as Derived?

[BRover]

Growing up in the wilderness of early RPGs, pre-interweb, etc., I wasn't as familiar with the lingo as I've gotten in the last few years. Specifically, for today's post, RAW/RAI (rules as written/intended).

But now I have a new conundrum: some sections in CT seem to have unlisted and unpublished rules. Such as the actual rules for the data of system placement and UWPs in the Spinward Marches (statistical analysis helps here), or the rules for building small spacecraft. We have half a dozen examples of the latter from launch to cutter and shuttle, but the rules whereby they were derived are not present. Do they use High Guard? Something else?

Which is my point here. Such hypothetical rules are, by definition, not RAW (not written). Nor are they really RAI. They may, inevitably, be somewhat nebulous, and vary from group to group, and include personal interpolations and additions, etc. But are they really House Rules, if they are intended to reflect the canonical craft?

So then, what are they? Rules As Derived/Deduced (RAD)? Is there an accepted lingo here, with which I happen to be unfamiliar? Is there a lacuna in the common language (and meme-chaosiverse)?

 

[Proneutron]

So then, what are they? Rules As Derived/Deduced (RAD)? Is there an accepted lingo here, with which I happen to be unfamiliar? Is there a lacuna in the common language (and meme-chaosiverse)?

They are RACIOSORS. Rules As Contained In Other Supplements Or Rule Sets

 

[BRover]

They are RACIOSORS. Rules As Contained In Other Supplements Or Rule Sets

But are they? Do the stock small boats really fit the supplements?

And they are implied rules, not explicit rule sets.

 

[Proneutron]

But are they? Do the stock small boats really fit the supplements?

And they are implied rules, not explicit rule sets.

That way madness lies...

 

[BRover]

That way madness lies...

RAM--Rules As Madness?

 

[Proneutron]

RAM--Rules As Madness?

:rofl:

 

[AnotherDilbert]

But now I have a new conundrum: some sections in CT seem to have unlisted and unpublished rules. Such as the actual rules for the data of system placement and UWPs in the Spinward Marches (statistical analysis helps here), ...

LBB3 plus (presumably) manual adjustment to taste, as any real Referee would do it?

... or the rules for building small spacecraft. We have half a dozen examples of the latter from launch to cutter and shuttle, but the rules whereby they were derived are not present. Do they use High Guard? Something else?

LBB2'81 seems to use HG for building small craft (they are TL9).

LBB2'77 has no specified system for small craft, just as it has no system for building vehicles.



There are no implied systems, you just wing it as any Referee is expected to. The LBBs are remarkably well packed with lots of systems, but can of course not cover everything...

 

[Timerover51]

But are they? Do the stock small boats really fit the supplements?

And they are implied rules, not explicit rule sets.

I suspect that when they came to small craft, they really did not have any set or implied rules, but simply put together craft that felt and sounded right. There are major differences between the small craft of the 1977 edition and the 1981 edition when it comes to fuel.

 

[Grav_Moped]

RAM--Rules As Madness?

Madness?! THIS IS OTU!!!!
<somebody gets kicked into a black hole>

 

[whartung]

Such as the actual rules for the data of system placement and UWPs in the Spinward Marches (statistical analysis helps here), or the rules for building small spacecraft. We have half a dozen examples of the latter from launch to cutter and shuttle, but the rules whereby they were derived are not present. Do they use High Guard? Something else?

Spinward Marches falls under the rules of Referee fiat listed under "because I say so". SW is not a blob of random star systems. There may very well be some random star systems there, but the Hand of Mark (or whoever) has left behind their mark.

The small ships are designed like the air raft. "We need a pinnace. How big? X. How much? Y. Ok, next topic."

 

[Condottiere]

Rules spaghettification.

 

[aramis]

While I've not seen a nice abbreviation for the concept, the rules as derived is a great term for it.

If you check the errata, there are things Don, Cryton, Mike, and myself derived from the various stock ships.

 

[BRover]

While I've not seen a nice abbreviation for the concept, the rules as derived is a great term for it.

If you check the errata, there are things Don, Cryton, Mike, and myself derived from the various stock ships.

Yeah--my mind loves systems and patterns and schemes like this. And thanks for the tip! (I'll likely use my own rules, but seeing what others have done never hurts!)