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Survival Rolls: Those First Three Stats

saundby

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After some of the bad news lately I thought I might see if starting a thread on what we're doing for maintaining our physical statistics along the lines of the Bookshelf thread, but for the first three stats rather than Int and Edu.

I own a high maintenance piece of property of about 2.5 acres that gives me stuff to do most of the year. I'm still trying to find something that keeps me moving in winter, though. Particularly since that's when most of my chronic illnesses limit my choice of activities. Over the past several years I've dropped about 60 pounds, mostly through managing my schedule and cutting back on the extra eating. But there's another 20 I'd like to lose, and the cardiovascular system needs ongoing constant work to keep it as healthy as it should be.

Today I went out to work on this spring's project. I'm doing some minor terracing for erosion control on the property. I spent about an hour moving topsoil from one side of the property to the other (and, of course, to a higher level--but not before going down a way first.)

Over the past two weeks I've been getting out whenever the rain breaks. I've been shifting some old cedar to use as the retaining wall for the new terraced section, raking up leaves that came down late, and cutting up deadfalls to stack in piles for chipping (we lost two mature trees on the property this winter, and several smaller ones--no worries, there are a few hundred trees on the property, about three times as many as it should have.)

I have to be careful not to overdo it. Especially in spring like this it's easy for me to go hog wild after a winter of sitting on my keister wishing I was getting exercise since I hate weights and exercises (though I force myself to do some of it anyway. But not enough.) I've had more than a bit of exercise lost to injuring myself because I didn't pace my work. So I've been keeping it down to 45 minute to hour sessions of heavy work, with another 45 minutes to hour of walking around doing something light like clearing small branches and twigs.

Plus there's the frustration of jobs I just can't do any more. I can't cut grass. It'll lay me out faster and harder than a day's hard labor without conditioning. Bad enough to get too little exercise when the things that would be good for the muscles will kill you in another way. So someone else cuts the grass now while I hide in the house with the windows closed.

Anyway, I'm sure there are others here trying to keep from leaving an empty chair at the table anytime soon. Maybe we can share some stuff on this the way we do on games, exchange ideas, inspire others, and so on. There are a lot of health problems you can't do much to prevent, and there are a lot of others you can.

What do you say?
 
Well I am not as active as I would like to be at times. But I also feel that diet is a big deal too and often gamers opt for a high fat sugar and salt diet with little in the way of nutrients. I try to opt for healthier choices I am lucky in a sense my wife is Chinese and she can give me home cooking that others only dream of. I avoid most of the foods that are bad for you with a few exceptions that are too good to pass up but only eat those in moderation and infrequently.
 
I'm fairly atypical for a gamer: run or bike pretty much daily, do various races (5K to half marathon - my last marathon was 10 years ago. I've a biathlon coming up in a couple of weeks - 5K run & 20 mile bike in the mountains here in Western NC). I also go to the gym daily for an hour or so usually. Trying to get my bench press back up - I've a 250 1 rep max, but right before I hit 40 (5 years ago) I was getting up to 300. I don't think it's going to happen, though. I give platelets about monthly (free juice and cookies!) and my blood pressure is good, my resting heart rate in the low 40's. I don't eat as well as I should, but probably better than average.

I'll probably get hit by the proverbial bus :(

I also think I've realized why I don't game as much...

(all that and I'm a programmer who sits in front of a computer all day (except when I take off for a run or the gym. or walk the dog, or play with my son or wife (who I blame for the running - she does ultra marathons, having run at least 1 50 mile race. I'm just trying to keep up), read up on Traveller on this site....hey, do I even work? What can I say - for me life is really great)
 
I've kinda got to the stage where I'm not fit enough to stay fit, IYSWIM. I try to eat vaguely healthy, but I could do with losing a few lbs - not really overweight, just the wrong shape.
 
I do Historical European Martial Arts. http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/

I even teach a couple of classes. It keeps my interest more than going to the gym, which I find tedious in the extreme. If you're anything like me you won't keep up anything you don't enjoy.

I'm not super fit, but I'm probably a lot better than I would be if I hadn't got in sword fights two or three times a week for the last five or six years.
 
I do Historical European Martial Arts. http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/

I even teach a couple of classes. It keeps my interest more than going to the gym, which I find tedious in the extreme. If you're anything like me you won't keep up anything you don't enjoy.

I'm not super fit, but I'm probably a lot better than I would be if I hadn't got in sword fights two or three times a week for the last five or six years.

now that looks like a lot of fun!

I agree about the enjoyment part - you only keep doing what you enjoy. Fortunately for me I apparently enjoy the gym - been doing it for 20+ years. Fighting the aging rolls as much as possible (although I fear the INT roll may have failed...)
 
I do Historical European Martial Arts. http://www.fioredeiliberi.org/

I even teach a couple of classes. It keeps my interest more than going to the gym, which I find tedious in the extreme. If you're anything like me you won't keep up anything you don't enjoy.

I'm not super fit, but I'm probably a lot better than I would be if I hadn't got in sword fights two or three times a week for the last five or six years.

I used to do SCA combat, but I had to give it up about 4 years ago because it was doing me a lot more harm than good, as a result of an accumulation of old injuries (both SCA related and non-SCA--rugby, skiing, mountain climbing, survival trips, etc.)

I really, really wish I could still fight. Getting in armor and bashing with friends a couple times a week was a great way to work up a good sweat and get the heart and lungs going. But I'm at the point now where I have to be careful how much hammering I do, never mind using a sword.

I haven't been able to bring myself to give up my armor and all yet, but I know I'll never be able to actually use it again. *sigh* I mostly try not to think about it.

My wife has the same problem with karate. We both played hard when we were younger (I met her in SCA combat), and we're paying the price now.

So...there's gardening and walking. I have a loop laid out on my property where I put in a few miles every so often.

I still have to figure out what to do in winter, but fortunately I've got another several months before that's a concern. Maybe I should put an alternator on my exercise bike so we can afford to keep the lights on. ;)
 
Saundby: Unless you're in one of the two remaining "No Rapier" kingdoms, or the one that still doesn't allow practical rapier*, take up SCA Heavy Rapier. Better cardio than heavy, far less injury, and SCA-Wide "Lightest practical touch"... yes, it means about a year to reauthorize, but it's as much fun as heavy with almost no injury.

* I'm over a year out of date; last I heard, there were only 3 of the 17** kingdoms that didn't permit heavy rapier, and two of those didn't allow fencing at all. I'm down with an at work knee injury.
 
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Well, I sling. I sling stones on the beach using a leather sling based on one found on Hadrian's Wall. I'm quite good at it too.
http://www.geocities.com/zozergames/sling.html
Not much more exercise than that, though I am slim and fit!

5868B6 Age 38 5 Terms

Slinging is fun, but as I only have my local rec ground and stones would be too dangerous, I built a slightly oversized one to throw tennis balls. Great work-out for the dog!
 
Aging Rolls

Arabis, and Saundby

Gentles! A pleasure to know you, first from COTI/Traveller, and again from Scadian pursuits.

I too am struggling, fighting those 'aging rolls', for me Combat does not do it -the southern heat of Alabama precludes wearing heavy armor for aerobic times (for me anyhow).

Instead - I park half a mile from my place of employment and walk that mile every day, rain, shine, cold, heat. The fat melted off, cardio system is that of a youth (after a year - make that 2!), I feel like it too. Avoid the carbs by eating a frozen meal (600 calories) for lunch every day. And no feasting to excess.

I am tempted to strap on the plate again, and I try to keep it polished up to an acceptable degree, mainly my armor is now a display, and a source of pleasant memories, and of amazement to my sons.
 
Lately I've been on the poverty/stress diet...

Stressing at work because overtime evaporated, stressing at home due to financial worries...dropped 20 pounds in a month. It was around my waist--it needed to go.

My stomach just refuses food when I'm really stressed. A€nd since the only time i can exercise now is 3:00 AM, i will have to do that instead of web surfing. I would like to look leaner with some muscle instead of being Michael Jackson's stunt double.

So, this weekend I start the walking with weights again...and yoga in the evenings.

66A8A5 estimated--UPP
 
Bashing with less bash

Saundby: Unless you're in one of the two remaining "No Rapier" kingdoms, or the one that still doesn't allow practical rapier*, take up SCA Heavy Rapier. Better cardio than heavy, far less injury, and SCA-Wide "Lightest practical touch"... yes, it means about a year to reauthorize, but it's as much fun as heavy with almost no injury.

* I'm over a year out of date; last I heard, there were only 3 of the 17** kingdoms that didn't permit heavy rapier, and two of those didn't allow fencing at all. I'm down with an at work knee injury.

I'm in the West. I'm also out in the boondocks (Mont d'Or, Cynagua.) We used to have about half a dozen heavies fighting regularly here, and about half as many who'd show up on an occasional basis. I don't know if anyone within a reasonable distance for an evening practice does rapier. I also haven't done anything of the sort since before I joined the SCA (A.S. XIV), when I was doing fencing and Kendo both. (I was one of the very few trainers for the light fighters with shinai when that got started in the SCA. I had people driving to me from two kingdoms to get trained at the time.)

It's certainly something to think about, thanks! I'll see what I can find out locally and online. Finding a practice and stopping by to check it out for an evening would probably be the best way to see if it's for me. The open question is whether my hand could take it. The rest of my body is still fine with bruises and swinging weapons. I've had some bad breaks in my sword hand, however, and its very sensitive to a lot of different uses now. I'd stick to polearms except for the residual damage from a shoulder dislocated while using a naginada. (Um, yes, I have pretty well beaten the heck out of myself over the years.) Shields are no problem, however.

I tried fighting right handed, too (I'm a lefty.) I fought right handed for about nine months once when my sword wrist was broken (new gauntlets, found out they didn't cover the wrist properly the hard way.) But my left hand can't take the blows on the shield any more than it can take the impacts from the sword. It sorta gets temporarily paralyzed and loses all strength. For a few hours to a few days, depending.

Anyway, I'll see what I can drum up on the lighter fighting.

If all else fails, maybe I'll make a chain hauberk for my walks. ;) My regular armor is brigandine, and it doesn't slip on and off as easy as a nice chain shirt. :)
 
Lately I've been on the poverty/stress diet...

Stressing at work because overtime evaporated, stressing at home due to financial worries...dropped 20 pounds in a month. It was around my waist--it needed to go.

My stomach just refuses food when I'm really stressed. A€nd since the only time i can exercise now is 3:00 AM, i will have to do that instead of web surfing. I would like to look leaner with some muscle instead of being Michael Jackson's stunt double.

So, this weekend I start the walking with weights again...and yoga in the evenings.

66A8A5 estimated--UPP

I wish stress made me lose weight. Exactly the opposite. I eat significantly less, fidget more, and pack on the pounds like nobody's business. Controlling stress was a hugely critical part of losing the 60 pounds I've already lost, even more so than controlling my eating.

Glad to hear you're working some exercise in. It's so easy to set aside or put off. I forced myself to go outside and work on the yard today instead of starting some verification work on an IC I'm working on--tar baby style work, all performed in a chair. It has to be done, but I can do it when the sun isn't up and the weather's not fair. And, personally, I consider it quite fun. So it's easy to decide to do that rather than go outside with rake, shovel, and wheelbarrow. Fortunately I chose outside, today, and got in two hours good hard work.
 
Arabis, and Saundby

Gentles! A pleasure to know you, first from COTI/Traveller, and again from Scadian pursuits.

I too am struggling, fighting those 'aging rolls', for me Combat does not do it -the southern heat of Alabama precludes wearing heavy armor for aerobic times (for me anyhow).

Instead - I park half a mile from my place of employment and walk that mile every day, rain, shine, cold, heat. The fat melted off, cardio system is that of a youth (after a year - make that 2!), I feel like it too. Avoid the carbs by eating a frozen meal (600 calories) for lunch every day. And no feasting to excess.

I am tempted to strap on the plate again, and I try to keep it polished up to an acceptable degree, mainly my armor is now a display, and a source of pleasant memories, and of amazement to my sons.

Greetings, good gentle. If you or anyone wants to look me up, I'm Saundby in the SCA as well (Saundby of Shaleweir). (My SCA name sorta became my online name when the internet boomed back in the early 90s. "mag" wasn't unique enough any more, and I wasn't going back to my old name from the 8-bit days: Mr. Yuk.)

I wish I'd worn armor worth putting on display. The legs and helm would do, but the body armor looked its best under a good arming coat (heraldic, of course.) I've still got an untouched sheet of some beautiful 16 ga. stainless, so I suppose I could still make something for show... ;)
 
I'm fairly certain you can find a practice within reasonable drive, not, perhaps a weekly, but should be.

If nothing else, contact the guild and your local seneschal, and arrange to have a basic rapier class in the shire! Nytshaed (Doug) loves to teach and to travel, is an excellent teacher, and he drove further to foster rapier in Oertha than would be needed for your area. I KNOW there is a regular practice in Sacramento; it's a drive, but it's not untoward. Once you get 3-4 fencers going, the heavies will start looking at the footwork... and then they start doing dual forms... (Doug was driving 200+ mile one-way about once a month up here... you'd be half as far if he's back in Sac.)
 
I just turned thirty-four 2 months ago (so only my first aging rolls!) but for this winter I really packed on the kilos. So, now that spring/summer has arrived here, I've been draggin my wife and daughter outside for badminton and frisbee and long walks every weekend. The wife runs. I do push-ups and sit-ups, then some yoga at night. IAlready seen some improvment in the last 2 weeks, so if I keep things I ought to be abck where I was by the time full summer hits. Do wish I could go to the gym but it isn't close in the little town I live in. :(
 
I failed one big time last year. Well... it was actually not an aging roll, but being in the wrong place at the wrong time and catching a disease. I went on a day trip to plant bay grass, and had the misfortune of picking up a deer tick carrying Lyme Disease. I spent most of last year in pain, and putting on excess weight. I lost at least one point of strength, maybe even two.
 
I breezed through the first few aging rolls like they weren't there, but when the saving throw got harder I failed the lot - and none of it is stuff you can fix with exercise. :(

I'm beginning to realise just what a person might do to get hold of anagathics...

Anybody got any loaded dice?
 
I "lost" several years of living due to health issues. Over the past several years, I've been working on slowly expanding the envelope to increase my activity levels and get more of my life back.

Up until about 16 years ago, I was the sort of person who only took sick days when I wanted to. Then, all at once, I came down with a number of allergies and a fairly serious respiratory infection. I complicated matters for myself, after all, I really had no idea on how to deal with really being sick, and I also had no idea just how sick I was until the body said "no more" with the sort of finality that makes you realize just where you really are. I was flat on my back for several weeks, and the fill-in for my doctor tried to do me in by prescribing drugs I was allergic to. The first time, I was so sick that I didn't even realize I had hives until after it had been going on for a few days. Then I had a morning where I was cogent enough to recognise the symptoms. The second time my regular pharmacist was in when we went to get my new drugs, and she caught the error.

About 12 years ago I had recovered to the point where I had about 1 productive day a week, physically. Fortunately I'd been able to think enough to get by, fortunately that was about all my job required of me at the time--thinking, speaking on the phone, and working a keyboard. Wintertime was especially rough for me, getting in enough hours of clear thought was difficult because of chronic sinus and bronchial infections. I'd often get only 1 active day per fortnight or month. I had to build my life around getting as many working hours in as possible in my condition.

Since then it's been a long, slow road--upward, I'm pleased to say. I had to give up and try to re-start SCA fighting several times during that time. Having the energy to both work on my armor and put it on once a week was difficult. Finally I had to give it up, mostly because of my hand injuries (I've had many breaks in my hands over the years, and I got another at the time when I quit that left me thinking my hand was going to stay partially paralyzed for good. Fortunately I mostly have the use of it again, but what I can do with it is limited.)

Now I can usually be physically active at what might be considered a "normal sedate" level. I can work outside my home on three different days of the week, and I can usually make commitments to such things as running star parties on the weekends and actually be healthy enough to keep those commitments. This last winter was tougher for me than some previous winters, and I've had to start up again on some medications that I was off of before. I'm hoping to have a good year before the next winter and get back to where I was, at least.

Lyme disease? I live in mortal fear of it. I'm right in the heart of deer tick country. When I get out into the weeds around the house I duct tape my pant legs down and wear flea collars around my ankles. One of my neighbors puts a pair end to end and wears them around his neck when he's out in the wooded areas around our properties. I may take up that particular fashion myself. I've already lost enough of my life without fighting that particular battle now when things are looking up again.

I hope you recover from it well, SWP. I know a few people who've beaten it and gotten back to fairly normal lives around here. One of our local rangers is back to marking the trails in the mornings again, now, after about a two year fight.

And I hear you, too, Ico. Exercise doesn't make lungs any healthier, either. Not when they're past a certain point due to other problems. Before I could start exercising I had to get healthy enough to exercise. Then I had two false starts thanks to injuring myself while trying to exercise. *sigh*

I used to make long lists of things I wanted to do. Then I got to the point where I just wanted to get to the end of one day per week, and be able to point to one thing and say "I did something." Now I'm working on doing that every day (not quite there yet) and on getting more than one thing done per day (it's happened twice now in past weeks.)

Last year I taught all my classes without missing one. It was a close thing, many weeks. But I did it. It was a big accomplishment. I taught three class sessions spread across two days of the week last year. This year I'm managing the same, so far, teaching four class sessions spread across three days of the week. Next year I've agreed to add yet another class session to my schedule, but still only three days a week. We'll see how that goes.

At any rate, taking up part time teaching in addition to my usual work --which I can do most of whenever I like, as long as I can make scheduled contacts with my clients--has been a sort of test for me on a path toward returning to something like normal life. And I have managed to get back to where I can engage in the luxury of fretting about exercise again. :)
 
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