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Vargr Extents Overlaps?

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maksimsmelchak

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*** Are there multiple Vargr sectors with the same names? ***

I come up with the following master list of Vargr Extents sectors:
1. Antares Sector
2. Arzul Sector AKA Ingukrax Sector
3. Arzul Sector AKA Meshan Sector
4. Dhuerorrg Sector
5. Empty Quarter Sector
6. Fa Dzaets Sector
7. Gvurrdon Sector
8. Gzaefueg Sector
9. Knoellighz Sector
10. Ghoekhnael Sector
11. Gotzdzo Sector AKA Mendan Sector
12. Kfazz Ghik Sector
13. Kharrthon Sector
14. Knaeleng Sector
15. Ksinanirz Sector
16. Listanaya Sector
17. Lloeilerz Sector AKA Gashikan Sector
18. Ngathksirz Sector
19. Nieklsdia Sector AKA Deneb Sector
20. Oeghz Vaerrghr Sector
21. Ogadogorz Sector AKA Mugheen't Sector
22. Orraenang Sector AKA Provence Sector
23. Outhofos Sector AKA Amdukan Sector
24. Outhofos Sector AKA Grikr!ng Sector
25. Rukhs Dall Sector AKA Trenchans Sector
26. Rzakki Sector
27. Tuglikki Sector
28. Usingou Sector AKA Ziafrplians Sector
29. Zao Kfeng Ig Grilokh Sector

Here are the overlaps:
2. Arzul Sector AKA Ingukrax Sector
3. Arzul Sector AKA Meshan Sector

22. Outhofos Sector AKA Amdukan Sector
23. Outhofos Sector AKA Grikr!ng Sector

*** Is that right? Or a mistake? ***

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
 
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I think Arzul is just meant to be Ingukrax Sector. On the other hand, this chart does have the Outhofos duplication, and also lists "Gotsdzo" as the Vargr name for three sectors: Windhorn, Meshan and Mendan.

Most likely, this is a result of publishers not checking previously published material properly and making mistakes.
 
maksimsmelchak said:
2. Arzul Sector AKA Ingukrax Sector
3. Arzul Sector AKA Meshan Sector

22. Outhofos Sector AKA Amdukan Sector
23. Outhofos Sector AKA Grikr!ng Sector
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Arzul is applied to (3,-2) a.k.a. Ingukrax in most references. In Vilani & Vargr it is used for both (0, -2) a.k.a. Meshan and (3,-2) - on the same page! (pp.49). I assume that's a typo and Arzul is meant to only apply to Ingukrax (per the CT Alien Modules), but show Ingukrax as the primary name on travellermap anyway, pending a definitive ruling.

I'm unfamiliar with the Outhofos duplicate - I know V&V gives it as an alternate name for (2, -2) a.k.a. Amdukan, but where is it given as an alternate name for (5, -3) Grkr!ng? Please share!

Otherwise.. most of the sectors you list also have alternate names in Vilani, Zhodani, or K'kree, but I'm assuming you're focusing on ones with different names in Anglic vs. a Vargr dialect. There are also a few that have alternate Vargr names as well, e.g.

Veg Fergakh vs. Veg Vergakh (alternate spelling seen on web; typo?)
Dfotseth vs. Ugulorkurr (HIWG)
Irugangog vs. Irugangong (typo?) vs. Ksongrru (HIWG)
Angfutsag vs. Gzerzarssou (HIWG)
Knoellighz vs. Khoellighz (typo?)
Gzaefueg vs. Gzaekfueg (typo?)
Corridor vs. Roughantz (??) vs. Llananae Tourz (??)

The ones marked (typo?) I've only seen online data files, and are likely transcription errors not intentional variant spellings (but I track them anyway).

This is all from sector metadata in https://github.com/inexorabletash/travellermap/blob/master/res/sectors.xml
 
inexorabletash said:
I'm unfamiliar with the Outhofos duplicate - I know V&V gives it as an alternate name for (2, -2) a.k.a. Amdukan, but where is it given as an alternate name for (5, -3) Grkr!ng? Please share!
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Maksim-Smelchak changed the Traveller Wiki page to list Outhofos as the Vargr name from Grikr!ng (source). Previously, it listed "Kansofo" as the Vargr name for Grikr!ng.
 
inexorabletash said:
Arzul is applied to (3,-2) a.k.a. Ingukrax in most references. In Vilani & Vargr it is used for both (0, -2) a.k.a. Meshan and (3,-2) - on the same page! (pp.49). I assume that's a typo and Arzul is meant to only apply to Ingukrax (per the CT Alien Modules), but show Ingukrax as the primary name on travellermap anyway, pending a definitive ruling.

I'm unfamiliar with the Outhofos duplicate - I know V&V gives it as an alternate name for (2, -2) a.k.a. Amdukan, but where is it given as an alternate name for (5, -3) Grkr!ng? Please share!

Otherwise.. most of the sectors you list also have alternate names in Vilani, Zhodani, or K'kree, but I'm assuming you're focusing on ones with different names in Anglic vs. a Vargr dialect. There are also a few that have alternate Vargr names as well, e.g.

Angfutsag vs. Gzerzarssou (HIWG)
Dfotseth vs. Ugulorkurr (HIWG)
Gzaefueg vs. Gzaekfueg (typo?)
Irugangog vs. Irugangong (typo?) vs. Ksongrru (HIWG)
Knoellighz vs. Khoellighz (typo?)
Roughantz (??) vs. Corridor vs. vs Llananae Tourz (??)
Veg Fergakh vs. Veg Vergakh (alternate spelling seen on web; typo?)

The ones marked (typo?) I've only seen online data files, and are likely transcription errors not intentional variant spellings (but I track them anyway).

This is all from sector metadata in https://github.com/inexorabletash/travellermap/blob/master/res/sectors.xml
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Mostly, I'm trying to figure out if there is an intentional toponym or accidental typos. Great fun! </sarcasm>

Duplicates seem off and I'd like to correct them if they are typos.

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
 
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I am updating to the following list of Vargr Extents sectors:

1. Angfutsag Sector AKA Gzerzarssou Sector
2. Antares Sector
3. Arzul Sector AKA Meshan Sector
4. Dfotseth Sector AKA Ugulorkurr Sector
5. Dhuerorrg Sector
6. Dotagrun Sector AKA Star's End Sector
7. Empty Quarter Sector
8. Fa Dzaets Sector
9. Gvurrdon Sector
10. Gzaefueg Sector
11. Ingukrax Sector
12. Irugangog Sector AKA Ksongrru Sector
13. Knoellighz Sector
14. Ghoekhnael Sector
15. Gotzdzo Sector AKA Mendan Sector
16. Kfazz Ghik Sector
17. Kharrthon Sector
18. Knaeleng Sector
19. Ksinanirz Sector
20. Listanaya Sector
21. Lloeilerz Sector AKA Gashikan Sector
22. Ngathksirz Sector
23. Nieklsdia Sector AKA Deneb Sector
24. Oeghz Vaerrghr Sector
25. Outhofos Sector AKA Amdukan Sector
26. Ogadogorz Sector AKA Mugheen't Sector
27. Orraenang Sector AKA Provence Sector
28. Kansofo Sector AKA Grikr!ng Sector
29. Roughantz Sector AKA Corridor Sector
30. Rukhs Dall Sector AKA Trenchans Sector
31. Rzakki Sector
32. Tuglikki Sector
33. Veg Fergakh
34. Usingou Sector AKA Ziafrplians Sector
35. Zao Kfeng Ig Grilokh Sector

Here are the overlaps:
* No more overlaps

Positive vibes to all!

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
 
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inexorabletash said:
Why did you go with this mapping? More sources use Arzul=Ingukrax than Arzul=Meshan.
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Easily fixed. Just a working copy. Will change.

Thanks!

The updated list reads:

1. Angfutsag Sector AKA Gzerzarssou Sector
2. Antares Sector
3. Arzul Sector AKA Meshan Sector
4. Dfotseth Sector AKA Ugulorkurr Sector
5. Dhuerorrg Sector
6. Dotagrun Sector AKA Star's End Sector
7. Empty Quarter Sector
8. Fa Dzaets Sector
9. Finggvakhou Sector
10. Ghoekhnael Sector
11. Gotzdzo Sector AKA Mendan Sector
12. Gvurrdon Sector
13. Gzaefueg Sector
14. Irugangog Sector AKA Ksongrru Sector
15. Kansofo Sector AKA Grikr!ng Sector
16. Kfazz Ghik Sector
17. Kharrthon Sector
18. Knaeleng Sector
19. Knoellighz Sector
20. Ksinanirz Sector
21. Listanaya Sector
22. Lloeilerz Sector AKA Gashikan Sector
23. Meshan Sector
24. Ngathksirz Sector
25. Nieklsdia Sector AKA Deneb Sector
26. Oeghz Vaerrghr Sector
27. Outhofos Sector AKA Amdukan Sector
28. Ogadogorz Sector AKA Mugheen't Sector
29. Orraenang Sector AKA Provence Sector
30. Rfigh Sector
31. Roughantz Sector AKA Corridor Sector
32. Rukhs Dall Sector AKA Trenchans Sector
33. Rzakki Sector
34. Spangele Sector
35. Thaku Fung Sector
36. Tuglikki Sector
37. Veg Fergakh Sector
38. Usingou Sector AKA Ziafrplians Sector
39. Zao Kfeng Ig Grilokh Sector
40. Zortakh Sector

Shalom,
Maksim-Smelchak.
 
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