those of you who run games, do you ever implement cultural or political conflicts between vilani and solomani in the third imperium? how do "native" vilani view the "illegal immigrants" in their midst? is everyone happily integrated, or do pockets of "blue-blood" vilani stand in opposition to the descendents of the conquering real men? are terranized vilani viewed as wannabes and traitors? are there any solomani "can't we all just get along" vilani admiration societies?
vilani vs solomani
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IMTU there are extremist movements within the society of every human group (Vilani, Solomani, and Zhodani). Each group has at least one or two that think they have the only REAL insight into the mind of God and what is a morally or socially correct position for each of the other races. Just like our society today, I don't think people will change all that much if and when we reach the stars, do you?
Pappy
Pappy
In most cases, there is a distinctive Deep South feel to my campaigns. The conflict in the Rimward states between Vilani and Solomani is just a difference in attitude, as almost everyone is interbred anyhow and there are plenty of minor races to hate.
Whereas, the Vilani Coreward tend to act as respectable Southern gentlemen. Not entirely racists, say like a fanatical Solomani but interested in keeping the bloodlines pure. When we start to move beyond the core areas of settlement and the frontier, nobody really gives a hoot.
I should imagine that in the charged atmosphere of milieu 1000, with the Rim wars, people are digging around and pointing fingers, just as it is here on 21st century Terra.
Whereas, the Vilani Coreward tend to act as respectable Southern gentlemen. Not entirely racists, say like a fanatical Solomani but interested in keeping the bloodlines pure. When we start to move beyond the core areas of settlement and the frontier, nobody really gives a hoot.
I should imagine that in the charged atmosphere of milieu 1000, with the Rim wars, people are digging around and pointing fingers, just as it is here on 21st century Terra.
I don't bother too much with Vilani supremacists. I have enough fun with Solomani supremacists and everybody's prejudice against Vargr. But they exist, I guess.
On general Solomani/Vilani conflicts: a setting that has never really been explored is the Regency of Antiama. This, for those vague on the history, was the period when Emperor Zhakirov married Antiama, a Vilani, and then died, leaving a four year old kid as Empress.
GT: Rim of Fire states that the Imperium was ruled by a Regency Council while the Empress was growing up. Antiama was on it, but she had to share power with others.
Who these others were isn't specified, but one of the first things the Empress (Margaret, IIRC) does when she assumes full authority is to create the Solomani Autonomous Region, that is, effectively split the Imperium in two.
Clearly, something had been going on...
The really cool thing about all this, is that Zhakirov's promotion of Vilani to positions of power had occurred at the expense of Arbellatra's old Solomani supporters. Arbellatra is often viewed as the great Imperial heroine, and it's interesting to consider that the Solomani movement more or less originated among her clique.
Of course, Milieu 0 had a kind of a precursor Solomani movement in the early Imperium, but the "present day" one seems to have originated in response to the ouster of the "Arbellatrans" from power.
There is a slight problem, though, in the relationship between "Solomani" nobles and "Solomani" space. The former can be found throughout the Imperium, not just in "Solomani" territory. The de facto partition of the Imperium could only relieve one of the sources of the pressure on the Imperium, but I suppose it was enough to postpone Civil War for a couple of centuries, and thus successful.
Alan B
On general Solomani/Vilani conflicts: a setting that has never really been explored is the Regency of Antiama. This, for those vague on the history, was the period when Emperor Zhakirov married Antiama, a Vilani, and then died, leaving a four year old kid as Empress.
GT: Rim of Fire states that the Imperium was ruled by a Regency Council while the Empress was growing up. Antiama was on it, but she had to share power with others.
Who these others were isn't specified, but one of the first things the Empress (Margaret, IIRC) does when she assumes full authority is to create the Solomani Autonomous Region, that is, effectively split the Imperium in two.
Clearly, something had been going on...
The really cool thing about all this, is that Zhakirov's promotion of Vilani to positions of power had occurred at the expense of Arbellatra's old Solomani supporters. Arbellatra is often viewed as the great Imperial heroine, and it's interesting to consider that the Solomani movement more or less originated among her clique.
Of course, Milieu 0 had a kind of a precursor Solomani movement in the early Imperium, but the "present day" one seems to have originated in response to the ouster of the "Arbellatrans" from power.
There is a slight problem, though, in the relationship between "Solomani" nobles and "Solomani" space. The former can be found throughout the Imperium, not just in "Solomani" territory. The de facto partition of the Imperium could only relieve one of the sources of the pressure on the Imperium, but I suppose it was enough to postpone Civil War for a couple of centuries, and thus successful.
Alan B
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Our current campaign is taking place in the Solomani Rim, and it is rife with political conflicts between the Vilani and Solomani. It's all a matter of degrees. Some Vilani are violently opposed to the Solomani; some not so much. Some Solomani are violently opposed to the Vilani; some not so much. Some on both sides just want peace, and open trade.
We have a whole Cold War vibe going. The PCs are government agents working for the Imperium. They try to aid the insurgents -- sorry, "freedom fighters" -- on the Solomani side, and oppose the Solomani-aided insurgents in Imperial space.