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Could you stand living in a scout ship?

Good idea, but I think I'll find a beat up one and get me some locals from Neo-Cuba to restore it, I hear they still use them there. :devil:

:rant: Heritic! There is only one Flash Gordon and his world is monochrome! Now, where did I put my stakes and torches...

EDIT: By the way, thanks Mods! That [rant] tag is the best! :D

But Flash's Mongo isn't monochrome! It's been color since strip 1!

Edit: The Rant smiley has been there for years...
 
I'm thinking in the circumstances of a small ship, a 100Ton Scout-Courier in particular, communal space rather than personal space would be more desired.

I base that opinion on the premise that individual crew quarters might be smaller than a standard stateroom with the 'shaved' space reallocated to provide for larger common usage.

IMTU, crew berthings are more squad 'bay' arrangements, tiered bunks and shared fresher access for two or four persons, not quite capsule hotel accommodations but definitely frugal in regards to their displacement. Mind the ship's captain-senior officer would have a standard stateroom but such would also operate as a purser's office if passengers are carried.

That said, passengers would have larger quarters but a standard stateroom configured for double-occupancy and likely only one or two such cabins available due to restrictions of space available.

Mind all recovered space in such a layout to provide for a larger commons and the presence of a compact sickbay-medical 'kiosk', which should be present on a Scout-Courier or mandated for any ship carrying passengers.
 
I think I could live in a 3800 square foot house... that flies!

:D

That you cannot leave for weeks at a time... with no internet or tv... with most of that 3800 sf being the basement or attic or other industrial space... where that flying mostly means being out in the empty dead of space and/or a week in jump space... with a certain number of other people in the 'same boat'... whom you have to get along with because your life may literally depend on it... and if things go south there might be no rescue... and people apparently do multiple 4-year tours of this.

Not saying it can't be done, but it's not the pleasure cruise it sounds like.
 
For the Sulieman Type S, let's see... 7.5m wide, 16.5m long of non-workspace floorplan. Most of which is 2m tall. 123 sq m. about 1325 sf. In that are 2 hallways, 4 staterooms, and a combined kitchen/dining/living room.

It's a triple-wide-trailer worth of living space. Not bad, but it can get a bit claustrophobic. It's smaller living space than "my" house.

The additional space is usually filled with stuff.
 
It would nearly totally depend on who I was living with on it. It could be anything from

:rant:

to

:nonono:

to

:smirk:

to

:rofl:
 
It would nearly totally depend on who I was living with on it. It could be anything from

:rant:

to

:nonono:

to

:smirk:

to

:rofl:

Hmmm. Light bulb moment.

The ships computer is smart enough to observe facial ques, use medical data and track behavior of the crew to tell what mood each crew member is in.

With augmented reality each crew member could display an emoji to the others that reflects their own mood. They don't even have to be aware of it.

Imagine seeing the Captain approach down the companion way with :rant: floating above his head. Thats a good indication not to ask for leave or a pay rise unless you want a trip out the airlock.
 
Great. Now, it's the Sims?
I actually built a Sims version of a Scout a number of years ago, blocked the only exit, and watched three Sims over a period of time. They stayed fairly happy with each one finding an activity--cooking, exercising, or watching TV (movies).
 
Originally Posted by SanDragon

I think I could live in a 3800 square foot house... that flies!





That you cannot leave for weeks at a time... with no internet or tv... with most of that 3800 sf being the basement or attic or other industrial space... where that flying mostly means being out in the empty dead of space and/or a week in jump space... with a certain number of other people in the 'same boat'... whom you have to get along with because your life may literally depend on it... and if things go south there might be no rescue... and people apparently do multiple 4-year tours of this.

Not saying it can't be done, but it's not the pleasure cruise it sounds like.

I'm kind of a loner anyway.

But, when I do make a friend, I'm as loyal as... a Vargr! :p
 
That you cannot leave for weeks at a time... with no internet or tv...

I'm sure all sorts of entertainment could be uploaded to the ship's computer for playback later, depending on local Tech Level. Probably easy to have a wall screen in the lounge or in a stateroom. They could have an X-Box type system for playing games and exercise and even tutorials on the ship. Electronic catalogs for clothing, gear, or food to look through for the system you're Jumping to so you can have an order all set to send when you break out of Jump and the order is ready just about as soon as you land. Maybe even a broker or stock-market type of program. Newsfeeds and such. Some businesses could even make agenda or scheduling programs catering to people who are out of reach with society to keep them from becoming stir crazy while in Jump, and to update them as soon as they get in-system. Scout bases could have some of that for free or discounted.
 
One thing that might be overlooked in the thread is that the people whom are doing the 'living' in such close quarters are individuals that have made the choice to do so.

As in the real world, those whom serve aboard submarines or other naval vessels with limited 'personal' space do so of their own accord. generations have served on both surface and sub-surface vessels as a matter of pride and distinction.

That said, one could conclude with a reasonable certainty that in a Traveller setting that such individuals would proud to be known as spacers for their inclination to that lifestyle.
 
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When I was stationed aboard ship, we typically spent 19-23 days at a time at sea. About 300 of us, but we kinda put up with each other. No fist fights for example.

Not much change in the food. Same ship, few spaces had air-conditioning. Basically the same routine unless we were in a training exercise. A small amount of books in the library. No tv, no video games, no email.

I asked if I could put an 8-track player in my work space. Yes, I was told, but with only 2 ( count em 2) tapes.

And I did read the encyclopedia set, also in the library, twice, one cruise over to the Med Sea.

So it can be done. Its just boring.
 
I'm sure all sorts of entertainment could be uploaded to the ship's computer for playback later, depending on local Tech Level. Probably easy to have a wall screen in the lounge or in a stateroom. They could have an X-Box type system for playing games and exercise and even tutorials on the ship. Electronic catalogs for clothing, gear, or food to look through for the system you're Jumping to so you can have an order all set to send when you break out of Jump and the order is ready just about as soon as you land. Maybe even a broker or stock-market type of program. Newsfeeds and such. Some businesses could even make agenda or scheduling programs catering to people who are out of reach with society to keep them from becoming stir crazy while in Jump, and to update them as soon as they get in-system.

This is all how I have envisioned it. As soon as they come out of jump, depending on having a Library program, they get feeds pushed to them. Essentially, the Library is Google in a box, such that the various feeds for news and other data get updated (and purged) whenever a ship comes out of jump in a system with an A or B starport. The entertainment suit can be set to run off the Library program.
 
Well for 4 nights every other week I sleep in my stationwagon when I am away from home. It is cramped - but cosy and I can go outside :)

I have done that in the past. It was tight, but doable. (I'm over 6' tall.) I folded the back seats down, slept curled up.
 
I have done that in the past. It was tight, but doable. (I'm over 6' tall.) I folded the back seats down, slept curled up.

I am not over six feet so can stretch out - have a mattress in the back. The trick is being tidy or else you are just living in a pile of stuff. I think starships would be like that too. At least the Scoutship has gravity to keep all your stuff in place.
 
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