most powders are self-oxidizing. You don't need to get oxygen to the powder, just sufficient heat and pressure to ignite the detonation wave.
A semi auto double barreled pistol
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most powders are self-oxidizing. You don't need to get oxygen to the powder, just sufficient heat and pressure to ignite the detonation wave.
Timerover51
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Sample for reloading data for those who are unfamiliar with it,
http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/reloading_manual/default.aspx
These are new data sheets, the whole manual is much larger.
http://www.speer-bullets.com/products/reloading_manual/default.aspx
These are new data sheets, the whole manual is much larger.
Thompson Contenders fire rifle loads, though they are also a single shot breechloader. They are spectacular when firing the hotter loads, too, but the flash isn't blinding or too bad considering it is only a single shot fired. Multiple rounds, as Kaeto pointed out, would be a problem in a gun like the Mauser, though, and not just from the flash. The gun itself had a complex mechanism and buildup from powder residue would cause it to jam a lot. A lot. The Luger was the same way, which is why they stopped making those and switched to cleaner, simpler blowback systems like what is used in the Walther P.38. Also, limp-wristing a heavy gun like that would increase the misfeeds considerably.
Still, if you absolutely, positively, just have to kill everyone in the room as fast as possible then why not go with an old Bushmaster ARM? 5.56 caliber, reliable AR-15 action, bullpup configuration, and fired one-handed with the stock designed to brace against your bicep. You can fire two of the things at once, even, though combat reloads would be problematic. They came equipped with a flash suppressor, and used standard AR type magazines. You could even use a drum magazine (back in the day the single drum was used) for more mayhem. It wasn't just an SBR or AR Pistol but deliberately designed for one handed use and I found it very handy and comfortable to shoot. One of my regrets in life was not buying the one I shot when they were still made, instead I just had to have that CAR-15. sigh
Still, if you absolutely, positively, just have to kill everyone in the room as fast as possible then why not go with an old Bushmaster ARM? 5.56 caliber, reliable AR-15 action, bullpup configuration, and fired one-handed with the stock designed to brace against your bicep. You can fire two of the things at once, even, though combat reloads would be problematic. They came equipped with a flash suppressor, and used standard AR type magazines. You could even use a drum magazine (back in the day the single drum was used) for more mayhem. It wasn't just an SBR or AR Pistol but deliberately designed for one handed use and I found it very handy and comfortable to shoot. One of my regrets in life was not buying the one I shot when they were still made, instead I just had to have that CAR-15. sigh
Timerover51
SOC-14 5K
You can do quite a bit with the Contender on tailoring your loads to the gun.
The Mauser or somewhat clone (can be straight blowback or even a short gas-action system) is just a weapon that I have always wanted to have. No need to be able to clear a room with it. For that, a couple of Uzis would do, or a Finnish Suomi with a 71 round drum.
The Mauser or somewhat clone (can be straight blowback or even a short gas-action system) is just a weapon that I have always wanted to have. No need to be able to clear a room with it. For that, a couple of Uzis would do, or a Finnish Suomi with a 71 round drum.
The Mauser C96 definitely followed the Rule Of Cool and would be a must-have item for any pulp-era two-fisted hero. I always thought the artillery model with the extra long barrel looked like it would be fun to shoot. In fact, here are a couple of pics of the beast actually being used in combat:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=188035
The first one is hilarious: it looks like it was a bet between the guy with the rifle and one with the pistol. "Ja, ja, hokay Herr Fancygun, let's see if you hit that beer bottle at 100M and I'll get the next round of schnaps if you do."
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=188035
The first one is hilarious: it looks like it was a bet between the guy with the rifle and one with the pistol. "Ja, ja, hokay Herr Fancygun, let's see if you hit that beer bottle at 100M and I'll get the next round of schnaps if you do."
Room clearing I would use an AA-12 Full Auto 12 guage shotgun.
Not exactly subtle. Where is the artistry in merely vaporizing the entire room to get the bad guys inside? might as well have just tossed in the grenades and gone out to lunch. And what about the guy still in the bathroom? You'll be fumbling to reload when he gets done pulling up his pants and bolting out the door at you.
Just remember; at close range, shotguns are little easier to hit with than rifles or pistols. Shotguns with no choke (cylinder bore) fire a pattern of shot that expands slightly more than 2cm per meter. Shotguns are at their best at between 10 and 40 meters, depending on guage, choke and shot size.
BlackBat242
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However, in a building the shotgun is clumsy - unless it is a short-barrelled pistol-gripped one, like some of those found here: http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Talk:Remington_Model_870
Then there is a revolver firing either .45 long Colt or >410 shotgun rounds - or both mixed in the same cylinder: http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=199&category=Pistol
Then there is a revolver firing either .45 long Colt or >410 shotgun rounds - or both mixed in the same cylinder: http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=199&category=Pistol
... half of the time.
I saw about an equal number of "it doesn't work" and "shot it lots of times with no problems" posts on the gun forums.
[It sort of reminds me of Traveller Edition topics.
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It's not for long range shooting - its a 15yd or less (and probably a lot less) short barrel pistol. The practical range wouldn't affect the .410 scatter enough to make it useless. Anyway, why would you use birdshot in your .410 defensive pistol? It's only .410, a jean jacket will stop most of it.
I'd get something like Critical Defense's (though I'm not a fan of the line) .410 with a slug and two buck pellets backed by a hotter than usual load. Or get a real shotgun. The 870's are very nice, I swear by mine - she's kinda beat up looking now but never let me down.
I'd get something like Critical Defense's (though I'm not a fan of the line) .410 with a slug and two buck pellets backed by a hotter than usual load. Or get a real shotgun. The 870's are very nice, I swear by mine - she's kinda beat up looking now but never let me down.
I have to agree with the issue of scatter being reduced at very close range. Inside the average house or building the ranges would be close enough to keep the scatter of most shot loads small enough to cover with the palm of your hand.
Using light shot is mostly to reduce the chance of a bullet tearing through two or three walls and hitting someone t isn't supposed to hit. At fifteen feet the shot hitting close together turning meat into hamburger. Odds are the wound wound would not be lethal, but it would be painful, and cause a lot of blood loss.
