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I saw a reference on the TML archives to a Contact! article describing the Suerrat - in what periodical was this article published?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
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Thanks very much, daryen.
Gents,
I've always been intrigued by the 'Sewer Rats'(1) ever since reading the various snippets about them scattered through MT. It's a shame they were left out of GT:Humaniti. Then again, considering how bad that product was maybe is wasn't a shame after all.
There's an illo of them in one of the MT core books, shows a rather squat hairy fellow wearing a harness of some sort. MT also mentions them supposedly having a 'sector-sized' STL empire when contacted by the Vilani (I believe GT:ISW shrunk that size somewhat.)
The T4 article presented them as bio-engineers of a sort, something to do with the huge trees they lived in/around/beside/within. Each of their STL generation ships reportedly had a whopping huge sequoia or something growing down the middle.
Of course, my real interest in the Suerrat has to do with their sector of origin; Ilelish. That's the sector which rebelled against the Imperium in the 400s and was home sweet home for Dulinor too. (He's not Suerrat.) When the Imperium put down the revolt in the 400s, it evacuated Ilelish - the Suerrat homeworld - and reportedly 'scrubbed the equatorial regions free of life'.
Interesting, no?
Have fun,
Bill
1 - During the first TML New York Real Space meeting several years back, we scared nearby several pub patrons by discussing, among other things, the 'proper' way to pronounce Suerrat.
I've always been intrigued by the 'Sewer Rats'(1) ever since reading the various snippets about them scattered through MT. It's a shame they were left out of GT:Humaniti. Then again, considering how bad that product was maybe is wasn't a shame after all.
There's an illo of them in one of the MT core books, shows a rather squat hairy fellow wearing a harness of some sort. MT also mentions them supposedly having a 'sector-sized' STL empire when contacted by the Vilani (I believe GT:ISW shrunk that size somewhat.)
The T4 article presented them as bio-engineers of a sort, something to do with the huge trees they lived in/around/beside/within. Each of their STL generation ships reportedly had a whopping huge sequoia or something growing down the middle.
Of course, my real interest in the Suerrat has to do with their sector of origin; Ilelish. That's the sector which rebelled against the Imperium in the 400s and was home sweet home for Dulinor too. (He's not Suerrat.) When the Imperium put down the revolt in the 400s, it evacuated Ilelish - the Suerrat homeworld - and reportedly 'scrubbed the equatorial regions free of life'.
Interesting, no?
Have fun,
Bill
1 - During the first TML New York Real Space meeting several years back, we scared nearby several pub patrons by discussing, among other things, the 'proper' way to pronounce Suerrat.
rogermccarthy
SOC-12
I don't have the T4 JTAS article.
Does it actually make Ilelish itself the Suerrat homeworld?
I can't see any reference in the MT material on Dulinor that specifically states that the native inhabitants of Ilelish were Seurrat.
The only CT ref I know of is the line in Adv 2 Library Data giving the Suerrat as an example of a minor human race which had developed STL rather than FTL travel.
The detailed description of the original Ilelish revolt in the MT Rebellion Sourcebook never actually indicates which race the rebels were (or whether the Virassin inhabitants of Dulinor's homeworld of Dlan were of the same race or indigenous to that world - given the nature of their religion I'd always assumed that they were yet another minor human race).
Given the Seurrat's characterisation as eco-freaks it strikes me that the deliberate desertification of much of their homeworld would have given them a permanent source of resentment against the Imperium.
Does it actually make Ilelish itself the Suerrat homeworld?
I can't see any reference in the MT material on Dulinor that specifically states that the native inhabitants of Ilelish were Seurrat.
The only CT ref I know of is the line in Adv 2 Library Data giving the Suerrat as an example of a minor human race which had developed STL rather than FTL travel.
The detailed description of the original Ilelish revolt in the MT Rebellion Sourcebook never actually indicates which race the rebels were (or whether the Virassin inhabitants of Dulinor's homeworld of Dlan were of the same race or indigenous to that world - given the nature of their religion I'd always assumed that they were yet another minor human race).
Given the Seurrat's characterisation as eco-freaks it strikes me that the deliberate desertification of much of their homeworld would have given them a permanent source of resentment against the Imperium.
Alte,
Dulinor is from Dlan not Ilelish. The sector capital is on Dlan. The capital of Dulinor's federation is on Dlan.
The sector is named Ilelish because that world was the sector capital until the Ilelish Rebellion of the 400s. After the rebellion was put down and the planet bombarded, the sector capital was moved to Dlan.
As for a 'detailed' description of the Ilelish revolt, we have nothing of the sort.
We have two dates, we have some vague complaints/justifications by the rebels, we have a sentence describing the IN's "anaconda" strategy, and we have the description of Ilelish's punishment. That's it.
We don't know how many worlds were involved, all that is mentioned is the usual vague qualifiers; most worlds, a large part of the sector, and stuff like that. We know nothing about the rebellion really.
I don't know if the T4 JTAS article was the first to link the Seurrat with the planet Ilelish. I thought it was mentioned in MT, there's that famous 'claddistic' diagram of human minor and major races that shows the Seurrat and a few others.
Have fun,
Bill
Dulinor is from Dlan not Ilelish. The sector capital is on Dlan. The capital of Dulinor's federation is on Dlan.
The sector is named Ilelish because that world was the sector capital until the Ilelish Rebellion of the 400s. After the rebellion was put down and the planet bombarded, the sector capital was moved to Dlan.
As for a 'detailed' description of the Ilelish revolt, we have nothing of the sort.
We have two dates, we have some vague complaints/justifications by the rebels, we have a sentence describing the IN's "anaconda" strategy, and we have the description of Ilelish's punishment. That's it.
We don't know how many worlds were involved, all that is mentioned is the usual vague qualifiers; most worlds, a large part of the sector, and stuff like that. We know nothing about the rebellion really.
I don't know if the T4 JTAS article was the first to link the Seurrat with the planet Ilelish. I thought it was mentioned in MT, there's that famous 'claddistic' diagram of human minor and major races that shows the Seurrat and a few others.
Have fun,
Bill
IIRC, the account in Rebellion Sourcebook was a bit more detailed than that. Not much more, though.
Quite a good read, actually. You could easily expand it into a full setting. I'm not sure that there would any good reason to prefer it to the "present day" settings, unfortunately.
There's no mention of the Suerrat in it that I can recall.
rogermccarthy
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Bill - I never said Dulinor was from Ilelish - only that the description of the Ilelish rebellion is in the Dulinor chapter of the Rebellion Sourcebook (and of course I know Dlan was Dulinor's homeworld and actually said so in my post).
As for whether the Ilelish revolt account is detailed that depends on what value you assign to 'detailed' - however by Traveller standards it is way more detailed than most accounts of historical events that appeared in GDW publications.
The 'claddistic diagram' in MT doesn't ring any bells I am afraid - anyone have a book and page ref?
As for whether the Ilelish revolt account is detailed that depends on what value you assign to 'detailed' - however by Traveller standards it is way more detailed than most accounts of historical events that appeared in GDW publications.
The 'claddistic diagram' in MT doesn't ring any bells I am afraid - anyone have a book and page ref?
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