For example, if an Automatic Snub Pistol* costs Cr600 at its intro Tech Level of 8, what would it cost at TL-7 or 12? Seems like it would be more expensive (by a factor of ?) for TL's before introduction and less expensive for TLs after introduction. I remember reading about exchange rates at one point but cannot recall where I read it. A point-out to the appropriate reference would be great. Thanks. *Weapon price is taken from Megatraveller Imperial Encyclopedia.
Equipment Price Exchange Rates
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coliver988
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Striker Book 2 has integration with Traveller for prices adjusted by TL and starport type
(hopefully w/i fair use; if not please delete!)
(hopefully w/i fair use; if not please delete!)
Condottiere
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I guess it's like Turkey exporting shotguns to America.
So, for a TL-8 Body Pistol, bought on a TL-12 world, assuming A starports for each:
600 * .30 / .70 = 257Cr.
Is that the correct math?
I'm guessing that TL-15, Starport A is the "base" for all Imperial Credits?
If I have a Pilot, who gets, what, 6000Cr per month. And I'm a C-11 world, should they be paid 6000 * 1.0/.7 = 8571 LOCAL Credits?
600 * .30 / .70 = 257Cr.
Is that the correct math?
I'm guessing that TL-15, Starport A is the "base" for all Imperial Credits?
If I have a Pilot, who gets, what, 6000Cr per month. And I'm a C-11 world, should they be paid 6000 * 1.0/.7 = 8571 LOCAL Credits?
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mike wightman
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The original and easier to use rule is in LBB:4
Condottiere
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I tend to find the economic reasoning somewhat questionable.
coliver988
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I forgot about LBB:4. I just used the heck out of Striker in college to create fighting vehicles so that is what came to mind. Never actually used them (other than a custom speeder for one of my characters, and the design ethos was based on the concept art of the spinner from Blade Runner).
And yes, the underlying reasoning does not really hold up, but like a lot of Traveller I think is not aimed at the macro-world as it would really disrupt trade. GURPS Far Trader has a brief paragraph about this and arbitrage and says that prices are going to be fairly uniform across nearby planets.
In the end, the models presented I think are "use at your own risk" and works for how you want YTU to go.
And yes, the underlying reasoning does not really hold up, but like a lot of Traveller I think is not aimed at the macro-world as it would really disrupt trade. GURPS Far Trader has a brief paragraph about this and arbitrage and says that prices are going to be fairly uniform across nearby planets.
In the end, the models presented I think are "use at your own risk" and works for how you want YTU to go.
Quick answer it’s not, and very important to keep in mind their different uses.
Striker’s table is about acquiring gear and supporting merc orgs with a high low mix- more cost effective to tailor something like 85% of the gear to local TL and 15% to the higher wonder weapons that will be decisive. Or go high tech but need to win fast before the costs eat the profits.
TCS is about the economic value of taxes collected to support armed forces in general.
I would tend to use Striker for costing local buys of higher tech equipment/repair players use on planets, and TCS for currency exchange/trade.
Important IMO to maintain the TL value attached to the goods- TL6 steel should be cheaper to buy and sell then TL12 superdense steel.
If you are going this far into the weeds, important to distinguish whether goods are local in origin or just layover/warehoused interstellar in origin.
Simple off the top ruling- for specific cargo lots or individual equipment buys roll pop or under, it’s local TL. Roll starport or above for higher TL equipment/cargo lots- if neither roll succeeds, it’s not available. Rentals may merit another roll attempt, but should be something like a vehicle or equipment, weapons are not likely to be rented.
Well within Marc's FUP.
That particular passage, and the similar one in TCS, are both on the non-canon list, last I heard.
That said, for one's own use, they're fine.
Captain_Ahab
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I've always used Pocket Empires' method of estimating currency exchange rates based on the ratio of a worlds' RU's and fix the fiat currency, the CrImp, on the Capital world's values. The fiat currency is used for trade and is converted to local currency at each starport.
a equipment prices are in CrImps, iirc
of course, it has been awhile, so I'd have to dig out old notes, if I even still have them
a equipment prices are in CrImps, iirc
of course, it has been awhile, so I'd have to dig out old notes, if I even still have them
As I recall the JTAS article and one of them was very close. The TCS one of course gave a taxbase for RUlike purposes, along with a government peace/war effect, per capita and breakdown suggestions between ground and space navy.
Condottiere
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Why would a planet need Imperium Credits?
To pay taxes to the local subsector duke, and import goods.
How do they acquire Imperium Credits?
Tourism and exports; retired Imperial citizens.
To pay taxes to the local subsector duke, and import goods.
How do they acquire Imperium Credits?
Tourism and exports; retired Imperial citizens.
mike wightman
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Membership of the Imperium should require the use of the Imperial Credit for all monies. It never made any sense that there would be a local credit valued against the Imperial Credit - it would be like US states having their own currencies and only using the dollar for federal level and international trade, or the EU allowing local currencies to operate alongside the euro..
Let's look at energy costs, based on CT HG and Striker, since energy cost is pretty important for resource extraction, manufacture, transport, recycling and disposal.
Now this is the cost of the fusion power station, that cost will be spread out over the lifetime of the power station, but it does show relative manufacturing potential - TL15 produced "TL7-8" goods should cost 25% of their TL 7-8 cost etc.
Let's look at energy costs, based on CT HG and Striker, since energy cost is pretty important for resource extraction, manufacture, transport, recycling and disposal.
| TL 7-8 | TL 9-12 | TL 13-14 | TL 15 | |
| Cost for 250MW | MCr 12 | MCr 9 | MCr 6 | MCr 3 |
Condottiere
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As I recall, systems have local autonomy.
Also, how many textile mills are still operating in Europe and America?
Also, how many textile mills are still operating in Europe and America?
Well, it's funny you mention that, as there was a post recently, I think in the Character Motivation thread, about the team striving to get to a High TL, low Law Level world so they could buy all the hi tech weapons they wanted.
And, while doing currency exchange may not be particularly fascinating on a day to day level, there are certainly scenarios where it's worth "doing the math" to try and "work the system".
Simply, if there's a way to save several MCr on a starship purchase by going to some "backwater", then it's likely worth the time.
If you use the chart directly, it suggests that TL 10 goods on a TL15 world are "half price". Well, a TL10 trader for 20MCr instead of 40MCr is worth the trip.
