Errata: Missing the latest Errata

[far-trader]

on page 262 of THB under the heading of THE BRIDGE:

1) Main command and control...
3) Command (non-passenger) Workstations...
4) Airlocks
5) Ships Locker
...

What is number 2? It is missing.

Penquins.

:smirk:

No, not really I haven't a clue but vaguely recall it being asked and maybe answered ages ago here. Not sure I can track it down though.

page 276 states "...but if there are none [High Passengers] then a Steward is not required if there are less than 50 middle passengers..."

page 346 states "Any ship that carries passengers requires stewards..."

Which is it? Are stewards required or not when carrying say half a dozen middle passengers?

It should read "Any ship that carries high passengers requires stewards..." as the easiest correction. The earlier specifics are correct.

 

[whtknght]

stewards

Penquins.

It should read "Any ship that carries high passengers requires stewards..." as the easiest correction. The earlier specifics are correct.

That may be the easiest correction, but read the whole sentence. It just does not sound right to have 49 middle passengers and no one to look after the passengers or cook for them. The rest of the ships crew have regular jobs to do. Someone needs to "babysit" the 49 strangers for the week. If it is not the steward, then whom?

 

[far-trader]

That may be the easiest correction, but read the whole sentence. It just does not sound right to have 49 middle passengers and no one to look after the passengers or cook for them. The rest of the ships crew have regular jobs to do. Someone needs to "babysit" the 49 strangers for the week. If it is not the steward, then whom?

I agree though my take on middle passage is they fend for themselves. They do all their own cooking, cleaning, and entertaining and keep out of the way of the crew, or else. Unlike high passage where someone does all the cooking, cleaning, and entertaining for them and the crew answers to them, within reason of course. Mid pax Stewards are more security than caterer. They keep the mid pax from doing anything out of line, so you don't need many.

All crew calculations should imo be read as "or fraction of." So 1-8 high pax should be 1 steward and 1-50 mid pax should be 1 steward. And you still get into the whole breakpoint issue of why is 51 so much more than 50 that you need a(nother) full Steward? :smirk: (It's a trap, don't go in there!)

I've also tended to break it down to fractions of work units at times. So 45tons of drives requires 1.3 Engineer shifts. That can be 1 Engineer working 1.3 times harder (and more pay) or 2 Engineers sharing the work (equally or not). And since (CT anyway, can't recall for T20) the rules allow double shifts that seems to imply that each shift is not full time (figure half time maybe).

On crewing matters I actually have a harder time rationalising why a Pilot gets paid more than an Astrogator and why a Steward gets paid more than a Doctor.

 

[whtknght]

pay scale skewed

On crewing matters I actually have a harder time rationalising why a Pilot gets paid more than an Astrogator and why a Steward gets paid more than a Doctor.

I agree, the pay scale is a little skewed. Most small ships have a pilot/astrogator who would get paid 75% of 11,000 cr or 8,250 cr per month yet the engineer who fixes everything on the ship and is responsible for making sure everything from the toilets to the jump drive to the vacc suits in the ships locker are working at 100% get paid only 3,000 cr per month.

But this all goes back to the pay scale as established in Classic Traveller