salochin999
SOC-13
So
assuming something like this
http://img.tjskl.org.cn/nimg/96/85/...d_grow_lights_for_indoor_plants_and_crops.jpg
in Traveller deck square terms is an 18" x 5' tray each side of a 2' walkway that's 15 square feet per layer per square. Say 4 or 5 layers per square that's 60 or 75 square feet per square or 120/150 square feet of growing surface per two deck squares (one dton).
Say 150 as it works out neater later on then 2 squares on a standard Traveller deck plan
e.g. http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/156/b/4/deckplans_in_the_rough_by_arcas_art-d67x9he.jpg
is roughly 1/300th of an acre using 3D space (if I did the sums right).
Then taking timerover's link
http://www.nss.org/settlement/ColoniesInSpace/colonies_chap09.html
which suggests 920 lb potatoes/tomatoes per acre per day using space-age techniques that's roughly 3 lbs per day (or 30 lb in ten days) per two squares of deck space so going back to
if a dton of deck space can produce 30 lbs per ten days that's half a bushel per dton
3 to 4 gallons per bushel say 15 litres of 200 proof or 30 litres of 100 proof
so 15 litres of 100 proof per dton of deck space per ten days.
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The other side is how much does a dton (volume) of liquor represent?
A traditional 12 bottle wine box (4x3) is 20" x 13"
http://www.thewonderfulwoodcompany.com/products-page/12-bottle-original-size-boxes/test-product/
so in a Traveller deck square (5' x 5') that's maybe 3x4 boxes at maybe 6 layers of boxes per square that's 72 boxes per square or 144 boxes per dton (as two squares are a dton).
(144 boxes x 12 containers per box x 3/4 litre per container = 1296 litres)
which if you take the book 2 liquor trade price of 10,000 cr per dton is about right: c. 8 cr per litre wholesale for 16 cr retail.
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so... getting confusing ... if the sums are right then
1 dton of (cheap) trade liquor (10,000 cr) is c. 1296 litres of actual liquor
1 dton of deck space supplies enough for 15 litres per ten days
so
14 dtons of deck space would produce 210 litres in ten days which would be roughly 1/6 of the amount in my estimated trade system dton of liquor
So you could say
- every six jumps they had a dton of liquor to sell
- they could sell 1/6 of a standard size lot each jump
- do some hi-tech handwaving and say improved tech means they can produce more than 1/6 of a dton per ten days. double it and they have a dton per month, triple it and they have a dton every two jumps, which with a base price of 10,000 and some good rolls could make a nice profit
- let the player experiment with special recipes that allow selling at 2x or 3x the standard low price (and unsellable if a mistake is made)
I think what I'd do is
- double the production numbers for higher tech so 14 dtons of deck space can produce a dton of vodka per month instead of two months
- small discount to life support costs for the extra oxygen from the plants
- a monthly roll for the quality of the batch, success gets a DM when selling
- distilling skill, start at rank zero, adds to quality roll
- create adventures around ingredients e.g. rumors that Inthe tomatos are particularly good for vodka, make up some rules for blending different ingredients to make the perfect vodka, bonuses to the monthly roll for ingredients and blending etc
turn it into a thing
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nb the sums may be wrong but it feels about right to me, 14 dtons would be about 1/5 of a Free Trader's cargo space
by these calcs it wouldn't be profitable except with good resale rolls but if you turned it into a thing so over time the player can get bonuses to their resale rolls for the quality of the vodka they produce then eventually it could become profitable.
assuming something like this
http://img.tjskl.org.cn/nimg/96/85/...d_grow_lights_for_indoor_plants_and_crops.jpg
in Traveller deck square terms is an 18" x 5' tray each side of a 2' walkway that's 15 square feet per layer per square. Say 4 or 5 layers per square that's 60 or 75 square feet per square or 120/150 square feet of growing surface per two deck squares (one dton).
Say 150 as it works out neater later on then 2 squares on a standard Traveller deck plan
e.g. http://th08.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2013/156/b/4/deckplans_in_the_rough_by_arcas_art-d67x9he.jpg
is roughly 1/300th of an acre using 3D space (if I did the sums right).
Then taking timerover's link
http://www.nss.org/settlement/ColoniesInSpace/colonies_chap09.html
which suggests 920 lb potatoes/tomatoes per acre per day using space-age techniques that's roughly 3 lbs per day (or 30 lb in ten days) per two squares of deck space so going back to
if a dton of deck space can produce 30 lbs per ten days that's half a bushel per dton
3 to 4 gallons per bushel say 15 litres of 200 proof or 30 litres of 100 proof
so 15 litres of 100 proof per dton of deck space per ten days.
#
The other side is how much does a dton (volume) of liquor represent?
A traditional 12 bottle wine box (4x3) is 20" x 13"
http://www.thewonderfulwoodcompany.com/products-page/12-bottle-original-size-boxes/test-product/
so in a Traveller deck square (5' x 5') that's maybe 3x4 boxes at maybe 6 layers of boxes per square that's 72 boxes per square or 144 boxes per dton (as two squares are a dton).
(144 boxes x 12 containers per box x 3/4 litre per container = 1296 litres)
which if you take the book 2 liquor trade price of 10,000 cr per dton is about right: c. 8 cr per litre wholesale for 16 cr retail.
#
so... getting confusing ... if the sums are right then
1 dton of (cheap) trade liquor (10,000 cr) is c. 1296 litres of actual liquor
1 dton of deck space supplies enough for 15 litres per ten days
so
14 dtons of deck space would produce 210 litres in ten days which would be roughly 1/6 of the amount in my estimated trade system dton of liquor
So you could say
- every six jumps they had a dton of liquor to sell
- they could sell 1/6 of a standard size lot each jump
- do some hi-tech handwaving and say improved tech means they can produce more than 1/6 of a dton per ten days. double it and they have a dton per month, triple it and they have a dton every two jumps, which with a base price of 10,000 and some good rolls could make a nice profit
- let the player experiment with special recipes that allow selling at 2x or 3x the standard low price (and unsellable if a mistake is made)
I think what I'd do is
- double the production numbers for higher tech so 14 dtons of deck space can produce a dton of vodka per month instead of two months
- small discount to life support costs for the extra oxygen from the plants
- a monthly roll for the quality of the batch, success gets a DM when selling
- distilling skill, start at rank zero, adds to quality roll
- create adventures around ingredients e.g. rumors that Inthe tomatos are particularly good for vodka, make up some rules for blending different ingredients to make the perfect vodka, bonuses to the monthly roll for ingredients and blending etc
turn it into a thing
#
nb the sums may be wrong but it feels about right to me, 14 dtons would be about 1/5 of a Free Trader's cargo space
by these calcs it wouldn't be profitable except with good resale rolls but if you turned it into a thing so over time the player can get bonuses to their resale rolls for the quality of the vodka they produce then eventually it could become profitable.
