Imperial Courtesy

[Spiderfish]

Interesting to note that these forms continue from the Lord Lyon's College in Scotland as Baron is merely a courtesy title in England & Wales but has true noble ranking in Scotland.

I think you are slightly confused sir, an baron is a substanstive title in the peerages, it would only be a courtesy title if used by the children, wife or close relatives of a peer.

The Scottish equivalent to the English baron is a lord of parliament, which is also a substanstive title.

From what I have uncovered in Burkes and other sources the greater men amongst the Scottish barons became peers and lords of parliament, while the lessers kept the baron title and roughly asssumed a position similar to that of an English "lord of the manor", though with it is fair to say a bit more cachet and privilege.

So "true noble ranking" my arse!

 

[Liam Devlin]

Originally posted by Border Reiver:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />The address to her title would be excellency for Being a Baroness.

Is this canon from GURPS nobles or something. In real life "excellency" is used for Ambassadors, Religious Leaders of Cardinal Rank, Viceroys/Governor Generals and Presidents of certain nations. It was also the traditional form of address for a State Governor in the USA tough that appears to have lapsed.</font>[/QUOTE]"Your Excellency" dates back to the Middle Ages, and yes, it is used for the Rank of Bishops, and Cardinal's--who held an equivalency to the Baron/ Jarl/ Earl, but less than Duke (Your Grace). such are the way we interpret things past in the SCA, which I crossplant/ use IMTU.

In the UK the flag officers start at Commodore (NATO equivalence OF-6 which is lower grade rear admiral in the USN). [/QB]

Captain, is O-6 USN, fwiw, and My answer awas given from MTU point of view. Flag ranked comes from an inference of UCMJ courtsmartials, and equivalency of disobeying a lesser grade officer offense, and Field grade/ Flag ranked officer's orders. If there is misunderstanding then I am at fault. If its not OTU, and was presumed so, its my take on the TU, not canon's.

have a great game,
just finished mine tonight!

 

[aramis]

Quote from Liam
*Any rank of below LTCDR/ O-5 rank, is below "Flag rank", in anyone's Navy, wet or Space.

I thought that flag rank starts at Rear Admiral and goes up from there. Commanders and Captains do not fly there own flag.
Right?

History Lesson...

A few navies are/were commanded by O-6 equivalents. In the early US (to about 1860), all "flag officers" were ranked as Captains 1st Class, with only positional authority. Only the Army had actual general officers. The US only fell into line on the issue in order to get proper treatment for its commodores and admiralty by foreigners. Note that squadron commanders had their 1-star flags, even tho' they didn't actually hold the rank. In general, tho' US/Traveller O-7 is the start of Flag Rank... which may be commodore, or might not, depending on when and in whose service one is. But not always - Commodores were not flag ranks in some navies, even tho they were the 8th officer rank (those had Ensign, 3 lieutenants, 3 "captains", and commodore). (Likewise, the rank above Colonel isn't always a General officer, either.)

Note that, from about 1800-1862, the US "Commodores" were, as they are at present, positions not ranks. The CNO, nominally a commodore, was a captain 1st class but positionally senior to all other captains, including commodores of the fleets. Commodore became a rank in 1862, stopped again in 1900, was retained as an ordinarily unused rank into the 1950's, was restored briefly in the 1980s, then returned to being "rear admiral lower half", even as they had been for pay purposes since the 1920's (But the title and insignia were simply RAdm with 2 stars, whether upper or lower half of the Admiral's list, and the lower half of the RAdms nominally were O-8's paid as O-7's...)


I'll note also: my 1981 imprint NS1 manual listed commodore as a rank, even tho it wasn't generally used.

 

[Carlobrand]

Minor point, but it strikes me that the son of a Baronness would rate an air/sedan or g-car rather than a utility vehicle.

I'm confused a bit. A Baronness/former Imperial Navy officer meets her son's girl - also an Imperial navy officer - for the first time and chooses to communicate telepathically? I'm assuming there's a bit of history going on before this that sets this up as an appropriate means of first introductions - maybe the son confided in mom that his girl's a psi and the mom's trying to set the girl at ease by revealing her own talent? Otherwise, that's an uncharacteristically big gamble for an old and experienced noble with so much to lose.

Also, once it's established she's telepathic, it's not entirely clear whether she's continuing telepathically or only did it that one time, or whether the others are responding telepathically in turn. You might consider standard quotes for the usual dialogue and reserving the italics for the telepathic exchanges.

I liked it. It struck me as intriguing, raised many questions that I'd want to read further to have answered.

 

[Barsanuphius]

Arhhh <tugging forelock>, roit you arr sur!


my mistake - please don't behead me!

Ravs

From this point forward, the beheadings shall continue until moral improves!

 

[DangerousThing]

From this point forward, the beheadings shall continue until moral improves!

My apologies to the Red Queen.

 

[Carlobrand]

From this point forward, the beheadings shall continue until moral improves!

I would just like to point out that beheading is properly reserved for nobility. Commoners are hung by the neck until dead - or maybe hung, drawn AND quartered if they really screwed up.

- And, a PROPER beheading is reserved for the high nobility. For the rest of them, it's as much a matter of luck as anything else.