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Imperial Uniforms and Insignia
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My turn!
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My turn!
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My turn!
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My turn!
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My turn!
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
My bugaboo is the use of "losers" as examples of Imperial uniforms. No offense, Mein Herr/sama, but your "empires" were not successful against semi-organised democracies, and so to adopt your uniform designs is to venerate your strategic skill (no wornder Dulinor and Lucan look like 2 overage boxers duking it out in a opium fog). It makes as much sense to copy the Argentine uniform in recognition of their success in the Malvinas.
My forces uniforms:
Formal: none. Whatever is worn locally as a formal outfit except for one item: an Imperial sunburst badge/pin/tattoo in the canon colours, with rank insignia sew/hung/drawn below, in sufficient scale to be recognised from conversational distance from the wearer.
Utilities: I like US BDU trousers because of the pockets (ask any tech; you can never have too many pockets), though I am more partial to a tuck in shirt. Pattern/Colours? Whatever works locally, Though again the Imperial sunburst/rank combination on the right breast pocket for uniqueness. Alternative: IMTU, chameleon cloth (shamelessly borrowed from the 'Sten' books of Bunch & Cole fame)flight suit-style coveralls (gotta have those pockets!).
Headgear: I happen to be one of those ex-Army geezers that liked the beret. That being said: no berets for rank-and-file. Formal - whatever is worn ... you know the drill. Informal - well, it IS informal. And they are called "utilities" for a reason. Ground combatants prefer a chameleon patrol cap with HUD goggles perched on top.
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IMTU, the scouts wear the ballcap shown on the MT illos. (Much like the ballcaps worn in Empire Strikes Back by the Imperial forces) Scouts wear the greyish blue shown on the Ref's Companion cover, and red sunbursts.
Duty uniform is the TL14 tailored vacc-suit with red sunburst on left breast, and 50% grey collar-ring cover. Ballcap is worn when more practical headgear isn't needed, and is optional. Also provided in kit: three-flap khepi, watch cap, and boonie hat. Scouts may choose to replace the TL--14 model with Tl15 models at own expense.
Dress uniform is synthetic silk, two piece, long sleeved grey collarless tunic to crotch-line, matching trousers. On the sleeves are worn 5mm wide 2cm long stripes of red, one per term on the left, one per special duty on the right. Branch is indicated by slpash color behind starburst: Commo is white, Survey is sky, Census is khacki, admin is gold. Admin scouts wear JIS ranks under starbursts. The silk cap is a khepi of three flaps, with sunburst.
Navy uniforms are Black for dress, department color for duty. Dress uniforms are plate-front standing collar, with rank on the cuffs or upper sleeves, using the 1-3 small burst/1-3 large burst/1-4star mode of JIS ranks, centered on the cuffs, faced outward. Gold SB on the left breast. Headgear is a ballcap with the sunburst, and the rank under it at 50% scale.
Ships's uniforms is the LD Vacc Suit through TL13, and the tailored for TL14+. Color is division color, insignia in same places.
Line- White, black outlines on insiginia for clarity.
Medical - Blood red. almost brown.
Flight - sky blue body and lower sleeve/leg. upper sleeve and leg in role contrast - Munitions HS Orange, Flight Con gold, Techs red, Pilots black,
Engineering - fire engine Red
Guns - Orange
Deck - 50% grey
Marine dress are single breasted, Maroon jackets & trousers, otherwise similar to navy dress.
office uniforms - dirtside green, gray, khaki, or white, always with Maroon trim, by command and weather. Consists maroon turtleneck under a colarless overtunic in command prescribed colors with matching trouser color. Warm weather replaces turtleneck with t-shirt, trousers and jacket with vest and shorts.
Field Uniforms: CES Jumpsuit in appropriate cammo, or Combat Armor over maroon T and Shorts, or BD over same said T & shorts.
Shipoard uniforms: LD vacc or Tailored Vacc, over maroon T and shorts. Usually Maroon.
Ranks placed same spots. Combat rank insig have a pressure switch to light up the edges. Shelled Troops wear rank insignia also on chest under starburst
Marine headgear is either a fur weather cap, a watch cap, a wide-brimed boonie hat, or a combat helmet.
Duty uniform is the TL14 tailored vacc-suit with red sunburst on left breast, and 50% grey collar-ring cover. Ballcap is worn when more practical headgear isn't needed, and is optional. Also provided in kit: three-flap khepi, watch cap, and boonie hat. Scouts may choose to replace the TL--14 model with Tl15 models at own expense.
Dress uniform is synthetic silk, two piece, long sleeved grey collarless tunic to crotch-line, matching trousers. On the sleeves are worn 5mm wide 2cm long stripes of red, one per term on the left, one per special duty on the right. Branch is indicated by slpash color behind starburst: Commo is white, Survey is sky, Census is khacki, admin is gold. Admin scouts wear JIS ranks under starbursts. The silk cap is a khepi of three flaps, with sunburst.
Navy uniforms are Black for dress, department color for duty. Dress uniforms are plate-front standing collar, with rank on the cuffs or upper sleeves, using the 1-3 small burst/1-3 large burst/1-4star mode of JIS ranks, centered on the cuffs, faced outward. Gold SB on the left breast. Headgear is a ballcap with the sunburst, and the rank under it at 50% scale.
Ships's uniforms is the LD Vacc Suit through TL13, and the tailored for TL14+. Color is division color, insignia in same places.
Line- White, black outlines on insiginia for clarity.
Medical - Blood red. almost brown.
Flight - sky blue body and lower sleeve/leg. upper sleeve and leg in role contrast - Munitions HS Orange, Flight Con gold, Techs red, Pilots black,
Engineering - fire engine Red
Guns - Orange
Deck - 50% grey
Marine dress are single breasted, Maroon jackets & trousers, otherwise similar to navy dress.
office uniforms - dirtside green, gray, khaki, or white, always with Maroon trim, by command and weather. Consists maroon turtleneck under a colarless overtunic in command prescribed colors with matching trouser color. Warm weather replaces turtleneck with t-shirt, trousers and jacket with vest and shorts.
Field Uniforms: CES Jumpsuit in appropriate cammo, or Combat Armor over maroon T and Shorts, or BD over same said T & shorts.
Shipoard uniforms: LD vacc or Tailored Vacc, over maroon T and shorts. Usually Maroon.
Ranks placed same spots. Combat rank insig have a pressure switch to light up the edges. Shelled Troops wear rank insignia also on chest under starburst
Marine headgear is either a fur weather cap, a watch cap, a wide-brimed boonie hat, or a combat helmet.
You want to see what a real beret looks like? Here you go: http://www.answers.com/topic/chasseurs-alpins
Now THAT´s a beret (for info: these are "chasseurs alpins", french mountain commandos; sorry to badger you with french troops, but they´re the only ones I know). And no, I wouldn´t want to have to wear one of these either.
Seriously though:
for scouts I´d only take standard issue fatigues or flight suits and possibly unit and rank insignia (but that one´s optional). Otherwise I´d allow a little creative latitude for the "accessories" (underarm gun holsters, various headgears etc.).
For regular troops: take your pick, depending on what "nationality" (like Darrians, Regency troops, Regular third imperium etc.), unit type (infantry, wet navy, space navy, marines, special ops, whatever), unit (there might be small differences in uniform from unit to unit, like different badges, some units wearing distinctive signs like decorative weapons, etc.).
My suggestion for standard base colouring:
Brown, khaki or green for army
White for space and wet navy
Black for space marines (do they need a uniform? just put´em in TL 12 battledress and point them in the right direction )
Blue for planetary air forces/SDB units.
Oh, and of course a black bodysleeve with individual extras for Star Vikings (just in case you want to try TNE ).
Now THAT´s a beret
(for info: these are "chasseurs alpins", french mountain commandos; sorry to badger you with french troops, but they´re the only ones I know). And no, I wouldn´t want to have to wear one of these either.Seriously though:
for scouts I´d only take standard issue fatigues or flight suits and possibly unit and rank insignia (but that one´s optional). Otherwise I´d allow a little creative latitude for the "accessories" (underarm gun holsters, various headgears etc.).
For regular troops: take your pick, depending on what "nationality" (like Darrians, Regency troops, Regular third imperium etc.), unit type (infantry, wet navy, space navy, marines, special ops, whatever), unit (there might be small differences in uniform from unit to unit, like different badges, some units wearing distinctive signs like decorative weapons, etc.).
My suggestion for standard base colouring:
Brown, khaki or green for army
White for space and wet navy
Black for space marines (do they need a uniform? just put´em in TL 12 battledress and point them in the right direction
)Blue for planetary air forces/SDB units.
Oh, and of course a black bodysleeve with individual extras for Star Vikings (just in case you want to try TNE
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