Making a Grav Bike (New to the Game)

[Trajedi]

I'm pretty new to the game and I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on what the cost/ stats of a Grav Bike be... I figure it to be similar to the Grav Belt but with a larger Chassis and I was hoping to get its max speed to about 290Km but I'd settle for 240Km.
Thanks for the help.

 

[far-trader]

First, welcome aboard Trajedi

Cool handle btw.

Have a peek here and here to start.

 

[Trajedi]

This model is good but I'm not sure if it needs to be that large... Perhaps just 250-300vl, like a little Ducatti; A jeep is 1000vl, a bike would probably be 1/4 the size. So would anyone one know how to covert this one to smaller?

TL 9 Grav Bike (Large Vehicle)
500vl chassis__+500vl__Cr500
Grav Drivetrain (100Thrust)__-4vl__Cr46,000__-1EP
Fuel Cell__-2vl__Cr300_+1EP
Fuel (30 days)__-100.8vl
Controls (as per remote)__-50vl__Cr125
Saddles x2__-20vl__Cr50
Cargo__-323.2vl
Totals__500vl__Cr46,975 (Cr37,580 production)

Acceleration=20kph
Slow=50kph
Cruise=100kph
Fast=150kph
Max=200kph

 

[far-trader]

Yeah that could be a touring bike, so you're looking more for a street bike or light touring. Turns out your post awoke the design bug in me and I started after posting the links above. I agree with the size (settled on 250vl) and it's in the works. Any must have features for your needs?

My vision is a pretty basic light touring grav cycle, TL 9, max speed in your range with just the operator, a little slower with a single passenger. Might be room for a small pair of detachable hardcase saddlebags (say 250L each). Fuel cell power plant with an emergency battery reserve, range maybe 1500km.

 

[Trajedi]

That sounds great, no must haves needed. My character is a belter so if anything else strikes my fancy I can probably put it on later, just figuring out how to do it w/out knowledge of how is the hard part. Don't have the book, GM does so nothing in front of me to go by. Thanks for the help.

 

[far-trader]

First run through came up with a fair bit of room left after what I figured it needs. Not sure what to do with it, add more stuff (but what) or make it smaller to start with.

Happy to help and it was an excuse to dust off the design section. Writeup below is just the basics.

TL9 Light Touring Grav Cycle - Cr40,000

Built on a 250vl standard chassis this model can carry up to two people. It has an agility of 4 and a maximum speed of 285kph with a single rider. With two riders the speed is reduced to 225kph and the agility to 3.

Included in the design are two light hardcase saddlebags of 250vl each.

The fuel cell power plant puts out 7ep and the 105L tank allows 10 hours of operation. In addition there is a basic battery backup of 7ep for 1 hour of operation.

Features include twin high intensity headlights with a base illumination of 30m and standard marker lights on the sides and rear. The instrumentation includes a light intensifying forward video camera and monitor with a range of 100m.

A reserve capacity of 124.3vl allows adding other options, with a power capacity reserve of 0.24ep which normally maintains the battery charge.

 

[Trajedi]

Thanks; thats awsome, exactly what I wanted. I owe you one.

 

[Trajedi]

This is what it would look like on paper minus the shiznit I don't know. Anymistakes?

Touring Grav Cycle
Class: Grav Vessel
EP Output: 7
Cost: Cr40,000
Agility: 4/3*
Tech Level: 9
Initiative:
Size: Medium
AC:?
Streamlining: Streamlined
AR:?
Pressurized? No
SI:?
Climate Control? No
Visual:N/A
Drive Train:
Crew: 1
Passengers:1
Sensors:N/A
Cargo Space: 250L X2 (two light hardcase saddlebags)
Fuel: 105L
Range: twin high intensity headlights with a base illumination of 30m/The instrumentation includes a light intensifying forward video camera and monitor with a range of 100m.
Comm.:
Speeds: Acceleration = 28.5kph/22.5kph* Offroad = n/a Very Slow =28.5kph/22.5kph Slow =71.25kph/56.25kph*
Cruising =142.50kph/112.50kph* Fast = 213.75kph/168.75* Maximum = 285kph/225kph*

Features include fuel cell power plant puts out 7ep and the 105L tank allows 10 hours of operation. In addition there is a basic battery backup of 7ep for 1 hour of operation.

 

[far-trader]

Nope no mistakes on a quick glance, beyond my own omissions I'll get it fixed up tomorrow and post a better descriptive.

 

[veltyen]

At the high end there are hypersonic armored grav scouts, but I assume that isn't quite what you are looking for. It's an enclosed bike, holding on at mach 5 doesn't sound like a good idea (except in battledress... hmmmm... theres an idea).

Summary:
One man extreme speed armored grav bike with good sensors and communication
Description:
A large egg shaped object, little more the a deep bucket seat and the space arround it. The pilot sits straddling the main battery with the control readouts arrayed forward and centre. The external surface appears pimply, with several lenses projecting just outside the body of the craft, there are several guidance fins also marring the otherwise mirror like surface. Just under the chin sits a tiny turret mount, designed to take a small spotlight, though potentially a very small weapon (such as a mounted pistol) could be put in its place. A small vision port lies in what would be the pilots face, giving an indication of how much it would feel like to be trapped in a coffin, the rest of the canopy is opaque.
Access and Operation:
The first two thirds of the upper half of the bikes shell can be moved forward, this is the pilots access, it also gives the pilot the ability to sit a little more upright if left in a forward position, though limiting the bikes speed to below any high speed atmospheric effects. There is enough space behind the chair to fit a longarm or a small backpack. The outer shell has an emergency release allowing rapid exit in the case of drive failure, the pilot is expected to wear their own parachute.
Target Markets:
Military units as a reconnaissance vehicle
Police as a pursuit/aerial surveilance vehicle
Reporters as a camera vehicle
Luxury recreational vehicle
Legal Limitations:
Some governments may object to medium armored vehicles and this level of surveilance equipment, please check before entering airspace.

Tech Level: 12
Size: 450 VL (Large)
Frame: Hypersonic
Interior: Presurised and climate controlled
Drive System: Grav
Max Speed: 4800 kmph
Acceleration: 2880 kmph
Visual: 5km Video, IR, LI, Hud (calculated as per TA6)
Power: 1 1000EPhour main battery. 2 100EPhour backup batteries
Range at Max Agility: 36.5 hours / 87,600 km
Communication: 2 way radio 5000km, Laser 50km
Sensors: Sniffer (advanced olfactory), audio 50m
Lights: 2 running lights, internal light, 39m beam searchlight in a heavy turret
AR: 10
Cargo: 8VL (8kg/80L/40L depending on ruleset)
Agility: 6 (+6 initiative)
AC: 25
SI: 28
Cost: Approx 1 MCr / 800KCr as a standard design

 

[Trajedi]

As Interesting as the "Egg" is, it isn't quite what I wanted, Far-Trader is on track with that; but thanks greatly for the help. Never know Might want to use something like that later.

 

[far-trader]

Hehe, life's a mess, nothing new there but it means a small delay in polishing your cycle Trajedi.

Soon I hope. Watch this space and your Private Message box

 

[Trajedi]

Ok, no problem, hopes all becomes unmessed or at least less messed.

 

[far-trader]

Thanks Trajedi, unmessed would freak me out I expect, too foreign :lol:

Less messed I can handle, but I got distracted after posting the above so while it's 90% there the last 10% is stuck a little longer.

 

[far-trader]

So here's the finalish draft of my version, comments welcome, still needs a little polish I think but it's mostly there.
</font><blockquote>code:</font><hr /><pre style="font-size:x-small; font-family: monospace;">Wanderer class Grav Cycle Journeyman Design Bureau - GV0001
Class: Grav Vehicle ep Output: 7
Tech Level: 8 Agility: 4 (acceleration 128kph)
Size: Large (250vl) Initiative: +4
Chassis: Standard AC: 13
Drive Train: 100TU Grav AR: none
Acceleration: 32kph SI: 25
Power: Turbine & Battery Pressurized Interior: No
Duration: 10hrs & 1hr Climate Controlled Interior: No
Crew: Pilot & 1 Passenger Chameleon Coating: No
Staterooms: None
Small Cabins: None Main Computer: na
Bunks: None Sensor Range: 100m
Couches: None Comm. Range: na
Low Berths: None
Cargo Space: 64.4vl Cost: Kcr39.9 (discounted)
Atmospheric Speeds: NoE = 80kph
Cruising = 160kph Maximum = 320kph

Other Equipment: Windscreen video display with 100m forward
and rear(pip) camera with light amplification. Two 30m beam
headlights and three 10m navigation lights. Two detachable 25vl
hardcases. 14.4vl underseat storage bin. Filter and compressor.

TAS Form 3.1 (Condensed) Vehicle Data</pre>[/QUOTE]The Wanderer class Grav Cycle by JDB is designed for export to and use on many worlds. To this end it incorporates a filter and compressor allowing operation of the turbine powerplant in a wide range of atmospheric mixes. It is also built low tech to allow easy maintenance and access to repairs. The design features a high-impact resistant windscreen with an incorporated monitor for the two light amplification cameras, one forward and one rear view, allowing safe night operation. The rear view is shown as a small picture in picture at the base of the full screen and is always on in place of a rear view mirror. The forward camera display is only on when activated and fills the windscreen with a virtual view forward. Instrumentation dispays are to either side of the rear view and include fuel tracking, flight time and distance, speed, altitude from last set point, temperature and radiation. A flight data recorder tracks the info of the last hour of operation on a continuous crystal. The black box is sealed and breaking the seals will void the warranty.

There is a performance reserve of 100vl which allows operators to carry more baggage or add aftermarker accessories. Overriding the safety limiter, inside the black box, is possible but will of course void the warranty and may cause handling problems. The absolute limit of the drive is 400kph.

Copyright Dan "far-trader" Burns

version 001

edit: Yeah that description is a bit confusing and messed up yet. I know what I mean by it but there's not quite enough info in it to explain some of what I mean

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