Modeling staterooms and Airaft hanger

[GrayPennell]

I did a rough mock up of both the stateroom and air-raft hanger on type S scout ship. First the staterooms are super crowded. If I was building the the type S with the common room I would give up some space there for a common fresher this would give the staterooms lots more space.

The good news with wall space accounted for I can get my air-raft into the hanger it's tight but fits.

 

[Timerover51]

I did a rough mock up of both the stateroom and air-raft hanger on type S scout ship. First the staterooms are super crowded. If I was building the the type S with the common room I would give up some space there for a common fresher this would give the staterooms lots more space.

The good news with wall space accounted for I can get my air-raft into the hanger it's tight but fits.

How much space are you giving the staterooms? Most cruise ships can accommodate 4 persons in a stateroom with shower and toilet in a 4.5 by 3 meter rectangle. Those are basic accommodations but also include a small closet, along with desk and chairs. They could easily hold two persons without crowding.

 

[GrayPennell]

With a type S its 2 by 3 not 4.5 by 3 meter square space. I can get the fresher, bed and desk but its super tight. The space saved by the communal fresher would make easy living for 1 and crowded for 2. The size you mention would probably fit two. It is close to the same size as the air-raft bay on the type S.

 

[Carlobrand]

With a type S its 2 by 3 not 4.5 by 3 meter square space. I can get the fresher, bed and desk but its super tight. The space saved by the communal fresher would make easy living for 1 and crowded for 2. The size you mention would probably fit two. It is close to the same size as the air-raft bay on the type S.

It's a little out of sync with modern practice, but if there's only going to be one person in the room, there's no reason the toilet or shower need a separate room.

 

[infojunky]

With a type S its 2 by 3 not 4.5 by 3 meter square space.

Which Type S are you looking at?


The handy dandy Type S of Supplement 7 has four staterooms each being 3 meter by 4.5 meters. ( 2 by 3 grid squares ( or 10 by 15 feet)).

Now I don't disagree with hacking that space up with a central head instead of 4 assumed separate ones, but that less of a space concern and more of a point of failure reduction concern. Though I would probably add a commode and Shower near engineering or the primary lock.

 

[GrayPennell]

I would have to do research for edition info. I use online deckplans when designing my lego ships. But all S class use the 2 by 3 staterooms. Yes i could fit all the items into the space but it is cramped. I think if you are doing 2 scouts to a stateroom its better to have one or two common freshers vs a fresher in a single room. This would give you space and sanity.

 

[esampson]

I would have to do research for edition info. I use online deckplans when designing my lego ships. But all S class use the 2 by 3 staterooms. Yes i could fit all the items into the space but it is cramped. I think if you are doing 2 scouts to a stateroom its better to have one or two common freshers vs a fresher in a single room. This would give you space and sanity.

Standard squares are 1.5 meters on a side (this way a square is pretty close to 5 feet and two squares are a reasonably close approximation to 1 dTon). So the 2 by 3 staterooms you are looking at are 3m by 4.5m most likely.

 

[kilemall]

In the design struggle between public and private space, I expect the preferences of the building/using culture will determine the tradeoffs.

A very private culture might want maximized personal space.

A very social culture might go with sleep coffins, communal sanitation facilities and additional non-standard items (a chapel for a devout operator comes to mind, fighting/training areas, etc.). The K'kree meadows of course would be the main canon example.

I've read about a scifi story (but not read it) of an extreme example. The Rigellians consider eating a shameful private matter to be conducted behind closed doors, but waste elimination is a joyous shared thing, like a family meal for us.

I don't know that you want to go so far as to have communal freshers and private meal stalls, but you could certainly add some character and comedy of manners for various races and/or human cultures, to get across a sense of 'other' and roughing it outside character/player comfort zones.

 

[aramis]

Which Type S are you looking at?


The handy dandy Type S of Supplement 7 has four staterooms each being 3 meter by 4.5 meters. ( 2 by 3 grid squares ( or 10 by 15 feet)).

Now I don't disagree with hacking that space up with a central head instead of 4 assumed separate ones, but that less of a space concern and more of a point of failure reduction concern. Though I would probably add a commode and Shower near engineering or the primary lock.

The Type S isn't 3m thick at the cabins...

 

[Fovean]

And then there's this...

http://travellerrpgblog.blogspot.com/search/label/fresher

One deck plan square. If you go with the assumed 2x3 squares for a stateroom that seems like a no-brainer at 3I TLs. Perhaps the dangling square is the auto chef/valet, leaving a 2x2 square area for living space.

But I love kilemall's cultural ideas above... gonna have a think on that.