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Partnernships for art

kafka47

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As everyone knows I am the CofI resident art-nut...although, I cannot draw to save my life.

What would the logistics in arranging a partnership between Scifi.com (the SciFi Channel) and either Far Future or Quicklink as a way of supplying art. As some of IT is not bad at all and very Traveller-like. Perhaps, mutual endorsements on each products would boast the hobby, as well.
 
I am not sure how the artists for gaming work.

But, I am sure that there wouldn't be an exohorbiant fee, if the art is going to be displayed in a book that already has already migrated into semi-public domain (the scifi.com website, which am pretty sure would not pay anything). Most of the artists, I know are craving to have their work publicized somewhere. The big names naturally can charge whatever price the market will bear but the struggling artists would be happy for the cross-marketing.
 
First off that link is for artwork from SciFi Weekly, which is still kinda not but kinda is part of SciFi Channel. IIRC, each issue of SFW has a cover graphic and usually a link to the artist's website or email.

With SciFi Channel's recent shift in programming, the woes of its parent company, and SFC being very protective of rerun rights, etc. I'd think dealing with the individual artists directly to create new work that they could still use elswhere (for exp.) would be better.

After all SciFi Channel no longer wants to be associated with Space-based science fiction. :mad:

Wow, I actually called the channel by its offical name thoughout this post. :rolleyes:

EDIT: cleared stuff up

Casey
from a review of Farscape's last season 4 episode (edited):

What do I really think of this episode?
Four words: Fsck. You. Sci. Fi.
-altoidsgirl.
 
I would agree that commissioning original work is the best option. But, many artists are not intimately familiar with the Traveller look. But, as a way of encouraging a differently viewed universe, why not encourage diversity? Also, I would not like to see production delays due to being held up for the art to manifest itself. Much as we have writer's guidelines, I am sure the same exists for art.

That is why I think there ought be an archive of the best of Traveller art which the artists could draw inspiration and guidelines from.(much as Hunter did for the T20 cover) And, after that the sky's the limit. Look at the new Japanese version of Traveller, it does the old CT stuff and then kicks it up a noch.

[Sorry, I just assumed when you followed the link back to SciFi Channel - that it was the same.]
 
Originally posted by kafka47:
I would agree that commissioning original work is the best option. But, many artists are not intimately familiar with the Traveller look. But, as a way of encouraging a differently viewed universe, why not encourage diversity? Also, I would not like to see production delays due to being held up for the art to manifest itself. Much as we have writer's guidelines, I am sure the same exists for art.
Oh well I referring to having artists that have done work for SFW to do some work for Traveller if possible. Yes diversity in artwork is good from my POV. It'd be nice to have a pool of artwork as well.

That is why I think there ought be an archive of the best of Traveller art which the artists could draw inspiration and guidelines from.(much as Hunter did for the T20 cover) And, after that the sky's the limit. Look at the new Japanese version of Traveller, it does the old CT stuff and then kicks it up a noch.

[Sorry, I just assumed when you followed the link back to SciFi Channel - that it was the same.]
That sounds good. Now I do think that the SciFi website at times seems almost separate from the Channel and one time was producing a decent amount of original content, including "radio" type dramas. However I think that has changed lately whether due to the decline in web revenue in general or a shift in the channel itself I do not know. It still would be nice to have something like you suggested, I'm just not sure how interested SFC is at the moment.

One other point, I don't think there's been a review of the THB in SFW. Would be good to see one there. And travellerrpg.com as a Featured site of the week (or other traveller sites).

I still read SFW when I get the chance, it's really the only reason I go to the SFC website anymore.

Casey
 
My Lords,

I believe you bark up the wrong tree on this, unfortunately. The RPG market is too small and too specialized to be a draw to the Sci Fi Channel, who at this point, only care about making a buck. The people that run it are TV people, not Gamers or even Science Fiction People Necessarily. Progress is hindered by those that help only themselves.

This sad phenomenon is compounded by the reluctance of unestablished artists unwilling to work for free initially, in order to get thier name out there. Some even border on paranoia when it comes to thier work, and hence they are unable to even talk about it without insisting on some farce of a confidentiality agreement, or some such nonsense. This to me seems an excuse not to do work, and hence, visual elements of the game go unrealised. I have yet to see a secret cabal out to steal Roleplaying Game Art.

I realize that people are afraid of getting "screwed", but fear is what makes a potentially Great thing crappy...


I was in The Compleat Strategist in New York City the other week, looking at Traveller stuff, and I was dismayed to see how poorly the new Traveller Handbook compared to other stuff in regards to art. I was especially dismayed at the reuse of some images from other books in the THB. This seemed like a ripoff to me a bit. The Expense of the THB made it seem likely that there would be a less random approach to the "Traveller Look" but this was not the case. I am not saying that the art is "Bad" in the THB, just that it is not integrated, and lacks an easily identifiable vision. I know that Rendering a Universe is a very difficult thing, but after 25 years, There should be a more concerted effort to iron out some details.

I volunteer, and have volunteered. Getting paid to do art would be nice, but I just dont care about it when it comes to Traveller. The Game has given me years of enjoyment, and feel as if I should give something in return. I have submitted a writing sample and some sample pictures to Quicklink and promptly recieved...

Nothing.

Perhaps it was an oversight on their part (likely)
or perhaps they see me as too much trouble (also likely) I am not a hidden Michaelangelo by any stretch, I was not expecting them to gush over my stuff and give me some dream job, but to hear something from them would have been, well, the right thing to do. Even a "You Suck" would have sufficed. They asked to see it, after all...

Be that as it may, Here is my site what holds what few works I have up for Traveller-based stuff... for Good or Ill. You are welcome any time, as are all, what?
Sidur Haski Design Consortium

I apologize if I seem overly bitter about this topic or negative, I merely speak my mind.

Sorry.
 
Actually, my good Baron, I noticed the art reuse myself. A shame, but as I don't know what part of their budget goes to art, I can't do a thing.

Perhaps they could hire Mike Vilardi!
 
I don't reckon that it is a task set for any one particular artist, but an Art Direction Team or something. A productive work environment that allows for cross criticism and solidification of a distinct visual style... I think some film named "Star Wars" did that kind of thing...

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Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran:
I have submitted a writing sample and some sample pictures to Quicklink and promptly recieved...

Nothing.

Perhaps it was an oversight on their part (likely)
or perhaps they see me as too much trouble (also likely) I am not a hidden Michaelangelo by any stretch, I was not expecting them to gush over my stuff and give me some dream job, but to hear something from them would have been, well, the right thing to do. Even a "You Suck" would have sufficed. They asked to see it, after all...
I don't request to see artwork samples. I also don't normally respond to unsolicited submissions.

I also have NO such submissions from you under either your Baron or Chuck Shaw email addresses.

Hunter
 
Originally posted by Baron Saarthuran:
That would stand to reason, Milord, as they were sent to Martin.

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Wrong person to send anything artwork related to. Martin has nothing to do with artwork and I seriously doubt he asked you to submit artwork samples to him. Writing samples yes. Artwork no.

Hunter
 
Maybe this has relevance, maybe not...
In my travels, I became a Magic:The Gathering collector. Now that there are a billion cards, and each one has an original piece of artwork...
I'm just thinking that there are obviously a lot of artists out there....
-MADDog
 
Maybe this has relevance, maybe not...
In my travels, I became a Magic:The Gathering collector. Now that there are a billion cards, and each one has an original piece of artwork...
I'm just thinking that there are obviously a lot of artists out there....
-MADDog
I quite agree, but I dout more than a few of them are free lance artists. Illustration is my chosen field so I know a little about it. :rolleyes:
 
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