Query for MJD, Shane, or Hunter...

[mad13142000]

Query for MJD, Shane, or Hunter -
I'm glad that we've finally driven the final nail into JG edition of the gateway...However, I must nitpick the 'six worlds are clients of the Hivers' ...

The six worlds in question, in subsector P, are all members of a Rule of Man client state. According to numerous HIWG sources, its name is the Corona Regnum. I quote:

Corona Regnum:
-2199 to 1130

A client state on the coreward-most edge (a "stretched" state reaching around to the spinward edge) of the Hive Federation. This Second Imperial client state would later form a critical diplomatic balance point which (along with the Hiver-K'kree War) would see the halt of coreward Hive expansion. It is this unique role which accounts for the similarly unique distribution of the Regnum's star systems. Also, these ties to the Rule of Man account for the relatively advanced tech level of this distant Imperial client state.

Later, Hive authors would attribute this move as the first external manipulation of Hiver society. It is for this reason that Hivers call the Corona Regnum the first of the Five Curiosities.

The material is from the HIWG quadrant 4...
Whose editor is, I believe Mr. Leroy W.L. Guatney...

I'm not nitpicking too much, as the area is still in development (slowly since the downfall of the HIWG), but since Leonidae Sector is one that I have a personal interest in, I think it's not too much to keep interstellar states coherent across sector lines...
PLEEAASSEE?!?
-MADDog

query?
-MADDog

 

[hunter]

Originally posted by MADDog:
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Query for MJD, Shane, or Hunter -
I'm glad that we've finally driven the final nail into JG edition of the gateway...However, I must nitpick the 'six worlds are clients of the Hivers' ...

The six worlds in question, in subsector P, are all members of a Rule of Man client state. According to numerous HIWG sources, its name is the Corona Regnum. I quote:

Corona Regnum:
-2199 to 1130

A client state on the coreward-most edge (a "stretched" state reaching around to the spinward edge) of the Hive Federation. This Second Imperial client state would later form a critical diplomatic balance point which (along with the Hiver-K'kree War) would see the halt of coreward Hive expansion. It is this unique role which accounts for the similarly unique distribution of the Regnum's star systems. Also, these ties to the Rule of Man account for the relatively advanced tech level of this distant Imperial client state.

Later, Hive authors would attribute this move as the first external manipulation of Hiver society. It is for this reason that Hivers call the Corona Regnum the first of the Five Curiosities.

The material is from the HIWG quadrant 4...
Whose editor is, I believe Mr. Leroy W.L. Guatney...

I'm not nitpicking too much, as the area is still in development (slowly since the downfall of the HIWG), but since Leonidae Sector is one that I have a personal interest in, I think it's not too much to keep interstellar states coherent across sector lines...
PLEEAASSEE?!?
-MADDog

query?
-MADDog </font>[/QUOTE]Human contact with the Hivers occured in -1802.

First Human contact with the K'kree did not occur until -200.

Thus, this interstellar state could not have been formed from the Rule of Man in -2199.

Hunter

 

[mad13142000]

But if the state is NOT a human one, but one that has been manipulated to be an Imperial Client as a buffer between the frontier and the Federation, then the dates could be correct...?
As humaniti spread out from the RoM and preceeding the fall of the 2nd Imperium, I've heard tales of an Admiral <my notes ARE this disorganized... > who led elements to found several of the Mixed Client States in this area...
I wouldn't be beating a dead horse, but If this state DOESN'T exist, I have to change 3 sector maps, as the FDA shows CR existing in Leonidae, Extolian, and KaaG!'kul...

-MADDog

 

[mad13142000]

I'll try again...
-2200c Terran colonists settle in parts of the Crucis Margin sector. Alien Module 7 - Hivers, GDW, 1986, p. 43.
-1700c Terran colonists from Crucis Margin sector arrive in Kaa G!'kul sector, and are welcomed on thinly populated Hiver worlds, including Slurn (3240 Kaa G!'kul). Alien Module 7 - Hivers, GDW, 1986, p. 43.
-1700c Human explorers first enter Gateway sector; colonies founded on Tharver (0528 Gateway), Bremen (1818 Gateway) and Salur (0921 Gateway). MegaTraveller Journal #4, DGP, 1993, p. 24.
So, Humans arrived in time for the Corona Regnum to be co-opted by the Terrans moving up through the sector before they reach Gateway SECTOR.
The hypothesis is - What would cause the ending of Hiver expansion a full sector before the proper boundary of the Imperium? Only a HUMAN manipulation would impress the Hivers enough to abandon expansion into this area.
Why else would these 6 worlds NOT have Gurvin names? Yes, they are a client state, I'm mearly saying that they belong to Solomani, NOT Hivers.

(Please note, I'm not complaining that the Karhyri Worlds should be a prt of the Cytralian Unity or something... I'm just noticing that pg 139 has a lot of whitespace, and I could help out with a plausable explination of why things are, that could also help eliminate said space...)

-MADDog

 

[mad13142000]

Originally posted by Shane:
Sorry MD, but I can't help you here. I just make the maps from the data I'm given (I had nowt to do with the design of the Gateway Domain stuff beyond making the maps). Any changes I make are to correct errors, or at the behest of the Anceints...

Ok, You're off the hook...
MJD???
-MADDog

 

[mad13142000]

MJD???

-MADDog