Revelations and Visions

[lesbates]

Scout wrote:

If anyone is wondering, my villian has gotten his hands on a variation of the Darrian Star Trigger and has applied some Ancient technology to create a Star Killer bomb. I got the idea from the Book of Revelations in the Bible "...and the dragon's tail swept a third of the stars from heavens and cast them to the earth". Yes, it's incredibly Space Opera, but my gamers are D&D types and wouldn't be happy with a "just jaunt from world to world" type of game. They'd think it would be like going to Wisconsin or something.

The author of Revelations may simply had a vision of the upcoming Sino-American war. Satellites are often perceived as moving stars. A logical first move on the part of the Chinese would be to knock out as much of the American communications, reconaissance, and GPS network as possible. Thus the "dragon's tail" sweeping "stars" from the sky.

As to the validity of visions of the future as such: In August of 2001 I had a dream which people were caught in a collapsing building. In January of 2002 I had a dream in which Saddam was inspecting the work on a undergroud facility.

Don't ask about the white cat.

 

[Spinward Scout]

It's very possible, although the Book of Revelations reads like someone wrote about their acid trip. There's a lot happening in the world that could look to be a part of what happens in BoR. I really don't know what to think sometimes...

How would you handle Visions in gaming terms? Making something vague and adjusting certain things to make it metaphorically accurate (as opposed to visually accurate) would probably make things easier on the Referee, I would think.

Curious about a white cat...

Scout

 

[lesbates]

Originally posted by Dameon Toth Detached Scout:
It's very possible, although the Book of Revelations reads like someone wrote about their acid trip. There's a lot happening in the world that could look to be a part of what happens in BoR. I really don't know what to think sometimes...

Curious about a white cat...

Scout

I said don't ask.

I wake up in a bedroom with a wood floor. (My present quarters have a concrete floor.) A white cat is walking around on magazines and clothing items that I recognize as mine.

I'm assuming that the cat is metaphorical.

Les

 

[MichaelL65]

Originally posted by Dameon Toth Detached Scout:
It's very possible, although the Book of Revelations reads like someone wrote about their acid trip. There's a lot happening in the world that could look to be a part of what happens in BoR. I really don't know what to think sometimes...

As someone who grew up in a very conservative religious family, I heard nearly every other week how something in Revelation (BTW, it's singular - no "s" at the end) was "coming true before our eyes."

I don't know what the Apostle John saw, but it was beyond his comprehension to put it completely into words. Interpreting what someone saw would be difficult enough when they can discribe it exactly...when they aren't even sure then you just have to wait and see.

How would you handle Visions in gaming terms? Making something vague and adjusting certain things to make it metaphorically accurate (as opposed to visually accurate) would probably make things easier on the Referee, I would think.

Depends on the situation, and whether or not that person has clairvoyance (even if they don't know it). In addition to moving the players along, it could become a new twist to the plot (In the game I play in, my character had a vision about the fall of the Imperium on the very day the emperor was assasinated - and this was while in jump-space and clear out in the Old Expanses. Later he found out he was Jedi.)

I would use metiphorical visions so the player has something to do instead of just having it handed to him/her. Makes it much more interesting...

 

[Shadowdancer]

Originally posted by Leslie Bates:
I wake up in a bedroom with a wood floor. (My present quarters have a concrete floor.) A white cat is walking around on magazines and clothing items that I recognize as mine.

That happens for real in my bedroom all the time. Except only one of the cats is white, and it has a few orange spots as well.

 

[Whipsnade]

MichaelL65 wrote:

"(In the game I play in, my character had a vision about the fall of the Imperium on the very day the emperor was assasinated - and this was while in jump-space and clear out in the Old Expanses. Later he found out he was Jedi.)"


Mr. Landon,

Wow! That anchovy and groat sausage pizza really didn't agree with him! Imagine, there he is, thinking he is playing in a Traveller game, only to wake up and find out he is actually really playing freakin' STAR WARS!

Hell, I'd remember that vision too. What's the next late night pizza going to do to him? Plunk him down in Spelljammer or Star Trek?


Sincerely,
Larsen E. 'Extra Cheese, Hold the Jedi" Whipsnade

 

[Spinward Scout]

"I said don't ask."

My life would be so much different if I wasn't curious about things...

Scout

 

[MichaelL65]

Originally posted by Larsen E. Whipsnade:

Wow! That anchovy and groat sausage pizza really didn't agree with him! Imagine, there he is, thinking he is playing in a Traveller game, only to wake up and find out he is actually really playing freakin' STAR WARS!

According to the GM, the lightsaber is a weapon of the Ancients. My character found it while exploring an Ancients site (which actually had an Ancient in suspended animation - unfortunately for him he tried to use psi to get our captain to start the wake-up process - the captian objected). We turned in all the other artifacts. Honest.

Force-users are extreemly rare in his TU. A Jedi is rarer still. So far my character only knows of two in the universe (although the GM keeps telling me my character hears something that sounds like an iron lung whenever he is somewhere unfamilier...).

BTW, a Force user works with the universe, a psi forces his will on it.

Hell, I'd remember that vision too. What's the next late night pizza going to do to him? Plunk him down in Spelljammer or Star Trek?

Since our GM has either run or played in almost every game ever (heck, he has almost every game on his shelf!), that isn't completely out of the question. Keeps the game interesting...

 

[Whipsnade]

Mr. Landon,

Interesting? Sure 'nuff!

Take three laugh points!


Sincerely,
Larsen

 

[Ben W Bell]

Revelation, not Revelations. It's the shortened form of The Revelation of St John the Divine. No plural. No s. Yes I know MichaelL35 has already said this, but I thought I'd reiterate it.

I've used visions and prophecies and the like in my Legends of the Five Rings campaign very heavily through dreams (works best if the player doesn't realise at the time it's a dream, such as having the other players in on it and act accordingly). Be obscure, never say this will happen always try and clothe it in something so it can be interpreted in several different ways.

 

[Shadowdancer]

Originally posted by MichaelL65:
Force-users are extreemly rare in his TU. A Jedi is rarer still. So far my character only knows of two in the universe (although the GM keeps telling me my character hears something that sounds like an iron lung whenever he is somewhere unfamilier...)

I'm just guessing, but your character's father is probably one. And he's likely the one breathing so hard.

 

[MichaelL65]

He also has a habit of pointing out that anything we might be able to get, so can someone else

He's good.

And scary.

And twisted.

Run!