Sector Maps/Details?

[ChaserCaffey]

Does anyone know where I might be able to find maps and descriptions of various parts of the 3I at the sector/subsector level? I see that there are map packs available for download on this site- do they have information on the systems themselves? If not, what book should I be tracking down to find that information?

Thank you!

 

[ChaserCaffey]

Does anyone know where I might be able to find maps and descriptions of various parts of the 3I at the sector/subsector level? I see that there are map packs available for download on this site- do they have information on the systems themselves? If not, what book should I be tracking down to find that information?

Thank you!

 

[aramis]

dotclue.org/t20 has a program to make the maps into PDF's, and a set of data to make maps from available. I strongly suspect that's just the assorted UWP's and sector, maybe subsector, names.

Domain of Gateway textual description is briefly covered in t20 Traveller's Handbook.

Alien Modules for CT often included a sector. Not all f them did, but ISTR Aslan, Vargr, K'Kree, and Hiver ones did.

Suplements 3 & 10 are sector books; the spinward marches and the Solomani Rim, respectively. (CT)
where: buy the supplements reprint.

Diaspora was released for MegaTraveller; is is a standalone folio product.
Where: DTRPG as Secure PDF, IIRC.

The Regency Sourcebook has ALL the domain of deneb, both 1116 and 1200 stats. Some library data. TNE product. DTRPG Again, DRM PDF

DGP's Traveller's Digest (OOP, Hard to get) has several sectors with writeups amongst its issues.

Challenge had an issue with a Hinterworlds sector booklet.

MegaTraveller Journal had the Domain of Deneb split between Map (issue 1) and data (issue 3).

In ALL the above, the vast majority is JUST URL's and a paragraph or so per subsector.

GT has "Behind the Claw", in gurps terms, some contradictions (mostly minor) with The Traveller Adventure (CT - Not in reprint yet), Beltstrike (CT - Not in Reprint yet), and several adventures (the adventures are in the CT reprints!). Niggling stuff, but be warned that there are some minor contradictions, AND IT IS ALL IN GURPS TERMS, and is usually a paragraph blurb per world.
Where: your FLGS or SJ Games

CT, MT, and TNE sector products tended to NOT have large amounts of detail. A paragraph per subsector (if that much), 2-3 pages of library data, and loads of URL's.

 

[aramis]

dotclue.org/t20 has a program to make the maps into PDF's, and a set of data to make maps from available. I strongly suspect that's just the assorted UWP's and sector, maybe subsector, names.

Domain of Gateway textual description is briefly covered in t20 Traveller's Handbook.

Alien Modules for CT often included a sector. Not all f them did, but ISTR Aslan, Vargr, K'Kree, and Hiver ones did.

Suplements 3 & 10 are sector books; the spinward marches and the Solomani Rim, respectively. (CT)
where: buy the supplements reprint.

Diaspora was released for MegaTraveller; is is a standalone folio product.
Where: DTRPG as Secure PDF, IIRC.

The Regency Sourcebook has ALL the domain of deneb, both 1116 and 1200 stats. Some library data. TNE product. DTRPG Again, DRM PDF

DGP's Traveller's Digest (OOP, Hard to get) has several sectors with writeups amongst its issues.

Challenge had an issue with a Hinterworlds sector booklet.

MegaTraveller Journal had the Domain of Deneb split between Map (issue 1) and data (issue 3).

In ALL the above, the vast majority is JUST URL's and a paragraph or so per subsector.

GT has "Behind the Claw", in gurps terms, some contradictions (mostly minor) with The Traveller Adventure (CT - Not in reprint yet), Beltstrike (CT - Not in Reprint yet), and several adventures (the adventures are in the CT reprints!). Niggling stuff, but be warned that there are some minor contradictions, AND IT IS ALL IN GURPS TERMS, and is usually a paragraph blurb per world.
Where: your FLGS or SJ Games

CT, MT, and TNE sector products tended to NOT have large amounts of detail. A paragraph per subsector (if that much), 2-3 pages of library data, and loads of URL's.

 

[clementk]

<waves> Welcome to CotI! Is there a particular area you want more detail on?

The map packs have basic info like is water, bases, red zones, starports, and the like present.

To add to Aramis' post-

Originally posted by Aramis:
Domain of Gateway textual description is briefly covered in t20 Traveller's Handbook.

Alien Modules for CT often included a sector. Not all f them did, but ISTR Aslan, Vargr, K'Kree, and Hiver ones did.

GT has "Behind the Claw"

There's also the big ole Gateway book which has quite a few descriptions of planets in the Gateway Domain.

GT also has Rim of Fire covering the Solomani Rim Sector, Sword Worlds covering the Sword Worlds region in the Spinward Marches Sector, various Planetary Surveys covering a single world each, and some homeworld writeups of varying quality in Gurps Humanti. Oh and if you have the GT core book there's info on converting to UWPs though it's most real world stuff that needs at most conversion to kilometers. Law and government levels aren't 1:1 though.

Any Traveller adventure should cover the area for the adventure in greater detail.

For map views and lists of UWPs I recommend:
The Interactive Atlas of the Imperium (link)
and
Zhodani Base's Space Atlas (link)
note: to view the info for Gateway as depicted in the Gateway book etc. go to the T20 Galaxy. The Classic galaxy uses some older and now supplanted info for the Gateway Domain.

There are more like that on the web but those are two I personally use a lot.

Hope this helps,
Casey

 

[clementk]

<waves> Welcome to CotI! Is there a particular area you want more detail on?

The map packs have basic info like is water, bases, red zones, starports, and the like present.

To add to Aramis' post-

Originally posted by Aramis:
Domain of Gateway textual description is briefly covered in t20 Traveller's Handbook.

Alien Modules for CT often included a sector. Not all f them did, but ISTR Aslan, Vargr, K'Kree, and Hiver ones did.

GT has "Behind the Claw"

There's also the big ole Gateway book which has quite a few descriptions of planets in the Gateway Domain.

GT also has Rim of Fire covering the Solomani Rim Sector, Sword Worlds covering the Sword Worlds region in the Spinward Marches Sector, various Planetary Surveys covering a single world each, and some homeworld writeups of varying quality in Gurps Humanti. Oh and if you have the GT core book there's info on converting to UWPs though it's most real world stuff that needs at most conversion to kilometers. Law and government levels aren't 1:1 though.

Any Traveller adventure should cover the area for the adventure in greater detail.

For map views and lists of UWPs I recommend:
The Interactive Atlas of the Imperium (link)
and
Zhodani Base's Space Atlas (link)
note: to view the info for Gateway as depicted in the Gateway book etc. go to the T20 Galaxy. The Classic galaxy uses some older and now supplanted info for the Gateway Domain.

There are more like that on the web but those are two I personally use a lot.

Hope this helps,
Casey

 

[T. Foster]

Originally posted by Aramis:
Alien Modules for CT often included a sector. Not all f them did, but ISTR Aslan, Vargr, K'Kree, and Hiver ones did.

Your memory is deceiving you. DGP's MT Alien Modules (Vilani & Vargr and Solomani & Aslan) included sectors (Vland and Dark Nebula, respectively), but the CT ones did not (except for AM6: Solomani, which reprinted the map (and UWPs?) of Solomani Rim sector from Supp 10). The other AMs included only schematic maps with borders and sector names (like the map of the Imperium in the MT books), but no world locations and definitely no UWPs.

For online sources, I recommend Anthony's Maps Site, which has maps and UWPs for the Imperium and surrounding sectors -- AFAIK the Imperium maps are based on the same data from the 80s that GDW and DGP used (this computer-generated data is notoriously buggy, especially in Zarushagar sector, but for most of the sectors it's still the closest to 'official' as we've ever gotten), data for the sectors outside the Imperium comes from various (mostly non-canonical) sources.

Also perhaps worth mentioning, GDW's Atlas of the Imperium (1984) included official maps for the 35 sectors of the Imperium but: 1) there were only maps, no UWPs, so the only data provided is that visible on a sector-level map (starport type, presence of water, gas giants, bases, allegiance, whether or not the world is HiPop); 2) only the HiPop worlds were given names; 3) the maps aren't standard hex-maps but are instead really hideous and user-unfriendly offset-squares; 4) the data used to generate these maps (AFAICT) is the same data as Anthony's Maps Site above, so you're probably better off just downloading from there -- you'll get full UWPs and much better looking maps, and you won't have to drop a load of $ on ebay.

 

[T. Foster]

Originally posted by Aramis:
Alien Modules for CT often included a sector. Not all f them did, but ISTR Aslan, Vargr, K'Kree, and Hiver ones did.

Your memory is deceiving you. DGP's MT Alien Modules (Vilani & Vargr and Solomani & Aslan) included sectors (Vland and Dark Nebula, respectively), but the CT ones did not (except for AM6: Solomani, which reprinted the map (and UWPs?) of Solomani Rim sector from Supp 10). The other AMs included only schematic maps with borders and sector names (like the map of the Imperium in the MT books), but no world locations and definitely no UWPs.

For online sources, I recommend Anthony's Maps Site, which has maps and UWPs for the Imperium and surrounding sectors -- AFAIK the Imperium maps are based on the same data from the 80s that GDW and DGP used (this computer-generated data is notoriously buggy, especially in Zarushagar sector, but for most of the sectors it's still the closest to 'official' as we've ever gotten), data for the sectors outside the Imperium comes from various (mostly non-canonical) sources.

Also perhaps worth mentioning, GDW's Atlas of the Imperium (1984) included official maps for the 35 sectors of the Imperium but: 1) there were only maps, no UWPs, so the only data provided is that visible on a sector-level map (starport type, presence of water, gas giants, bases, allegiance, whether or not the world is HiPop); 2) only the HiPop worlds were given names; 3) the maps aren't standard hex-maps but are instead really hideous and user-unfriendly offset-squares; 4) the data used to generate these maps (AFAICT) is the same data as Anthony's Maps Site above, so you're probably better off just downloading from there -- you'll get full UWPs and much better looking maps, and you won't have to drop a load of $ on ebay.

 

[daryen]

Actually, CT's AM 3 Vargr has the full Gvurrdon subsector. While it only gives the names of the hi-pop worlds, it does give all of the UWPs.

And AM8 Darrians gives UWPs for all of the Darrian worlds. (Which is no big deal, as that data is easily found in the many other sources for the Spinward Marches.)

 

[daryen]

Actually, CT's AM 3 Vargr has the full Gvurrdon subsector. While it only gives the names of the hi-pop worlds, it does give all of the UWPs.

And AM8 Darrians gives UWPs for all of the Darrian worlds. (Which is no big deal, as that data is easily found in the many other sources for the Spinward Marches.)

 

[T. Foster]

Originally posted by daryen:
Actually, CT's AM 3 Vargr has the full Gvurrdon subsector. While it only gives the names of the hi-pop worlds, it does give all of the UWPs.

D'oh, I'd forgotten about that! IIRC it gives the UWPs and 2 maps -- a complete "referee's map" and an incomplete "player's map" that only includes worlds near the border and a few other selected (mostly HiPop) worlds (shades of Judges Guild). Alas, both maps are on the same horrid square-grids as were used for AotI.

Another one that hasn't been mentioned -- Knightfall from the MegaTraveller era (produced by DGP, but published by GDW) included a map and complete UWP listings for Massilia sector, a couple pages of 'generic' library data (reprinted from TD#11) and detailed write-ups for the dozen or so worlds that the adventure takes place on. This is 'Rebellion era' data but it's pretty compatible with the Classic Era as well -- the map includes 'faction borders' that you'll have to ignore (and you'll have to redraw a couple xboat routes), and a couple of the library data entires include mentions of the Rebellion that can easily be ignored.

 

[T. Foster]

Originally posted by daryen:
Actually, CT's AM 3 Vargr has the full Gvurrdon subsector. While it only gives the names of the hi-pop worlds, it does give all of the UWPs.

D'oh, I'd forgotten about that! IIRC it gives the UWPs and 2 maps -- a complete "referee's map" and an incomplete "player's map" that only includes worlds near the border and a few other selected (mostly HiPop) worlds (shades of Judges Guild). Alas, both maps are on the same horrid square-grids as were used for AotI.

Another one that hasn't been mentioned -- Knightfall from the MegaTraveller era (produced by DGP, but published by GDW) included a map and complete UWP listings for Massilia sector, a couple pages of 'generic' library data (reprinted from TD#11) and detailed write-ups for the dozen or so worlds that the adventure takes place on. This is 'Rebellion era' data but it's pretty compatible with the Classic Era as well -- the map includes 'faction borders' that you'll have to ignore (and you'll have to redraw a couple xboat routes), and a couple of the library data entires include mentions of the Rebellion that can easily be ignored.

 

[ChaserCaffey]

First of all- thanks to everyone for your responses! It's great to see such a helpful fanbase out there.

Now, at the risk of blowing all that goodwill...I'm actually looking for the material to accompany a rework I have in mind of the TNE Reformation Coalition setting. Yes, I know, shock and horror, but I think there are some good storytelling ideas in there that could work well with some IMTU-level massaging and judicious elimination of the sillier bits. In order to expand the setting, though, I thought it would be worthwhile to use some CT supplements to get more data on areas like the Diaspora, Old Expanses, and possibly Solomani Rim and Massilia sectors. The maps and data given in the TNE books are kind of hit-and-miss, and mostly miss in my opinion.

The online data looks excellent, though. Thanks again for all your help.

 

[ChaserCaffey]

First of all- thanks to everyone for your responses! It's great to see such a helpful fanbase out there.

Now, at the risk of blowing all that goodwill...I'm actually looking for the material to accompany a rework I have in mind of the TNE Reformation Coalition setting. Yes, I know, shock and horror, but I think there are some good storytelling ideas in there that could work well with some IMTU-level massaging and judicious elimination of the sillier bits. In order to expand the setting, though, I thought it would be worthwhile to use some CT supplements to get more data on areas like the Diaspora, Old Expanses, and possibly Solomani Rim and Massilia sectors. The maps and data given in the TNE books are kind of hit-and-miss, and mostly miss in my opinion.

The online data looks excellent, though. Thanks again for all your help.

 

[Badbru]

For TNE area maps you will probably want to get Astrogators guide to Diaspora (entire subsector with a few lines or so on one to three systems per subsector) and Traveller Chronicles issues 10 and 11 or was it 11 and 12?? The issues that had Harold Hales write up of The Children of Earth. Harolds on these boards too. Old expanses maps and Alpha Crucis/Alpha Leonardis? sector info can be found at the Bard pages and Downport.com. Lots of stuff there for TNE inspiration, much of it also from members of these boards Liam Devlin and others spring immediately to mind....

 

[Badbru]

For TNE area maps you will probably want to get Astrogators guide to Diaspora (entire subsector with a few lines or so on one to three systems per subsector) and Traveller Chronicles issues 10 and 11 or was it 11 and 12?? The issues that had Harold Hales write up of The Children of Earth. Harolds on these boards too. Old expanses maps and Alpha Crucis/Alpha Leonardis? sector info can be found at the Bard pages and Downport.com. Lots of stuff there for TNE inspiration, much of it also from members of these boards Liam Devlin and others spring immediately to mind....

 

[daryen]

If you want TNE sector information go immediately to the DED Zone and his Sector Page.

This is probably the best TNE resource page on the internet, IMO.

 

[daryen]

If you want TNE sector information go immediately to the DED Zone and his Sector Page.

This is probably the best TNE resource page on the internet, IMO.

 

[aramis]

The most important thing to remember is that, before T20 and GT, world only really got details of any sort (beyond UPP's) if they were a racial homeworld, a major captial, or in an adventure. Even most of those were terse. (I've written more in this one post than existed in canon about capital before MT)

Many worlds on the spinward main are detailed out in The Traveller Adventure.

For example, Aramis/Spinward Marches is essentially a one city world, and that one city is deep underground. The port has elevators to the surface; likewise the navy and scout bases. There is a full map in TTA.
Psaydi/SM gets a little less detail, but a LOT of cultural development. Ibid for Zila/SM.

TTA was THE premier detailing source for most of my early games; I used it even when not running the campaign therein.

Tarsus develops a single world, and beltstrike details out one asteroid belt.

 

[aramis]

The most important thing to remember is that, before T20 and GT, world only really got details of any sort (beyond UPP's) if they were a racial homeworld, a major captial, or in an adventure. Even most of those were terse. (I've written more in this one post than existed in canon about capital before MT)

Many worlds on the spinward main are detailed out in The Traveller Adventure.

For example, Aramis/Spinward Marches is essentially a one city world, and that one city is deep underground. The port has elevators to the surface; likewise the navy and scout bases. There is a full map in TTA.
Psaydi/SM gets a little less detail, but a LOT of cultural development. Ibid for Zila/SM.

TTA was THE premier detailing source for most of my early games; I used it even when not running the campaign therein.

Tarsus develops a single world, and beltstrike details out one asteroid belt.