Ship sizes for some classic ships ...

[Icosahedron]

Well, do realize that the set for the interior of the shuttle was larger than the set for the exterior of the shuttle. In other words, the two sets were incompatible. So, I guess you have to pick which one you want to go with.

Hmm, Dr Who has one of those, too.

Wait! If the shuttlecraft is 3dton (or perhaps 4dton if the internal dimensions are used), that would make the shuttlecraft the Star Trek equivalent of the air/raft! Well, an enclosed air/raft, anyway. I wonder what an open shuttlecraft would look like ...

Good point. Anyone good with Photoshop?

 

[aramis]

Let me see what I've got in sketchup....

 

[leo knight]

Well, do realize that the set for the interior of the shuttle was larger than the set for the exterior of the shuttle. In other words, the two sets were incompatible. So, I guess you have to pick which one you want to go with.

From my admittedly sparse reading on the subject, I understand the Galileo exterior was built at 3/4 scale. It seems that sometimes exteriors were built at reduced scale to save materials and money. There's a funny/ infuriating story in Bob Justman and Herb Solow's book Inside Star Trek: The Real Story, how Lucille Ball's then husband, in an effort to be useful, had built at considerable expense a 'European Village' at Desilu. The parcel of ground was really too small to be useful, and oddly shaped, so they decided to build at 3/4 scale. The idea was that shows like Mission Impossible would film there, they could rent it out to other productions, and it would bring additional revenue to the studio. However, it was pointed out that most of the stars of the shows were around 6' tall, or taller (Shatner was the shortest, at an advertised height of 5'11"), and would look silly next to the Liliputian sets. But, he was Lucy's husband, they went ahead anyway, and aparently, it was never used until it was torn down in 1977.

If you really want some Tardis-like fun, try fitting the interiors into the exterior of the Jupiter 2. :devil:

 

[aramis]

Wait! If the shuttlecraft is 3dton (or perhaps 4dton if the internal dimensions are used), that would make the shuttlecraft the Star Trek equivalent of the air/raft! Well, an enclosed air/raft, anyway. I wonder what an open shuttlecraft would look like ...

Hmm, Dr Who has one of those, too.



Good point. Anyone good with Photoshop?

Sorry, no seats in it yet.

 

[daryen]

*That* is sweet. I like it!

 

[HRLMT]

Classic Star Trek Ships

Greetings!

For my research I went to www.cygnus-x1.net / Go to their Star Trek LCARS database and then to the Blueprints section. Here is what I found;

Constitution Class: 180K - 190K Metric Tons.
Klingon D-7: 100K Metric Tons.
Romulan Warbird: 25K Metric Tons.
Shuttlecraft: 2 sets of plans, one unstated, the other: 73 Metric Tons.
Tholian: unstated.
Aurora Class ( modified Tholian ): 18.75 Metric Tons.

There may other websites with similiar information, when I find them, I will try to post the
information.
That is all.
Howard R. Leidner

 

[daryen]

HRLMT,

Please note that I was asking for the volume, not the mass. The mass doesn't really do me any good.

But thanks for the link! I will check it out.

 

[daryen]

Const. Class: based upon measurements of the SFTM by FJ, 167001kL or so... just shy of 12KTd. But note also: it's a bit too small...
Nacelles: 153.619x (13.2 to 17.3) approx 28563kL or 2040Td each.
Saucer: 127.1x29m using some conic chunks and approximations, 46158 kL, or 3297 Td
Sec. Hull: approx 56017kL or 4001 Td
Neck: 2700kL or 193Td
Struts 43m x2.5m x13 approx 2500kL or 178Td Each

How did you get these numbers? When I try, I get results that are quite different. The only measurements I can see are:
Length Overall: 288.6m
Breadth Overall: 127.1m
Height Overall: 72.6
Primary Diameter: 127.1
Secondary Length: 103.6
Secondary Max Diameter: 24.1
Nacelle Length: 153.6
Nacelle Diameter: 17.3

So, for the Nacelle, I get ((17.3/2)^2)*pi*153.6 = 36105.49m^3 = 2578 dton
For the saucer, assuming an average height of 15m, I get
((127.1/2)^2)*pi*15 = 190314.66m^3 = 13594 dton.
Even if I drop it to an average height of 10m, I still get 9063 dton.
For the rear hull, assuming an average diameter of 22m, I get
((22/2)^2)*pi*103.6 = 39381.75m^3 = 2813 dton
For the bounding cylinder, I get:
((34.1/2)^2)*pi*103.6 = 94614.65m^3 = 6758 dton.

OK, for the secondary hull, we are close (I just don't know what average diameter you used). But, for the primary hull, I have a *way* bigger number, but I don't know why.

 

[aramis]

How did you get these numbers?

I took a scan of the SFTM pages, and measured using the number of pixels in a selection, multiplying by given figure/measured pixels.


I cheated the cones, using ((Ra^2)+(Rb^2))*h(b-a)*π/2 instead of figuring out the cone volume of a to c minus cone b to c. I'm lazy. It approximates a cylinder close to the dimensions.

As for the primary hull: I ran 5 sections this way:

Main disk slice
upper curve to roundover.
Bridge bulge on top of roundover.
Lower curve to roundunder
Lower dome.