Simple CC2 Question

[Uncle Bob]

I have been using Fractile Mapper for my mapping. It works ok for continents, but it has limitations for deckplans. Or maybe I am just not smart enough.

Before I buy CC2 Pro, could someone tell me, does it have tools for making precisely scaled geometric figures, especially circles/elipses?

 

[Bruce]

The simple answer to your question is YES!

CC2 is a powerful program and if you get dungeon designer2 and city designer 2..it just explodes out from there.

It does have a steep learning curve, i will not deny that. But it can make perfect ellipses and circles.

It is a CAD program, but it does have a VERY good tutorial in the book.

I just got "pro" and I am still looking at some of the cleaned up features, ect.

But I will say it's VERy powerful!

Bruce
The Man Behind the Curtain

 

[Tanuki]

Originally posted by Uncle Bob:
[QBBefore I buy CC2 Pro, could someone tell me, does it have tools for making precisely scaled geometric figures, especially circles/elipses?[/QB]

Check out: http://www.sff.net/people/kitsune/traveller/

These deckplans (except for the modular scout set) were all done with CC2 Pro. I haven't had it that long, but I love it. Yes, it does deckplans very well.

 

[Uncle Bob]

Thanks, guys. Now all I need to do is find $80.

 

[Maspy]

Before you drop the $80 (plus more for the all the add ons) drop NBOS a line, the maker of Fractal Mapper. www.nbos.com There is a link to their mailing list where they handle questions like this. No charge.

There isn't alot that Fractal Mapper can't do, and, Ed loves Traveller. He hooked me on it.

Shameless plug for NBOS? You bet.
I'm the wheel man for their yearly pilgrimage to GenCon!

 

[Uncle Bob]

Yeah, I intend to keep trying FM, Maspy: $80 is hard to find right now. I had the DOS version of CC and it was a dog. I have been much happier with Fractile Mapper since V. 3, but I never tried deckplans before. Besuides, I invested a lot of time in making my own map symbols (consoles, chairs, toilets, etc).

I do wish the Fractile World Explorer would export an icosohedral map,though.

 

[StrikerFan]

Originally posted by Uncle Bob:
Yeah, I intend to keep trying FM, Maspy: $80 is hard to find right now. I had the DOS version of CC and it was a dog. I have been much happier with Fractile Mapper since V. 3, but I never tried deckplans before. Besuides, I invested a lot of time in making my own map symbols (consoles, chairs, toilets, etc).

Keep your eyes open, yesterday I saw a copy of CC2 in the local WotC store for $30, with the expansions for $20 each.

StrikerFan

 

[PVernon]

Originally posted by Uncle Bob:
I had the DOS version of CC and it was a dog.

I think there is a price break for upgrades even from the old DOS version. Check with Profanacy!
Peter v.

 

[savage]

I think I'll check out Fractal Mapper. The price is right these days. I'd probably be willing to try out ProFantasy if there was a better deckplans support.

Perhaps someone with extensive CC2 experience should produce a cheap training cd. I know someone was doing some online volunteer training. With the approval of PF of course. I'd probably have purchased it by now if there was something to beat the training curve.

Savage

 

[Maspy]

I'm trying to get Ed (NBOS.com) to join the COTI. He loves Traveller and it would be a great place to get new ideas for the Mapper 7.0.

He has made several examples of starship deck plans using the current Mapper (v6.0). I know there is a place to swap maps and plans and such for the registered users...

 

[savage]

I downloaded the Mapper demo to figure it out first.

A walkthrough for starship designers would
be nice. Seems the help information is for
dungeons crawling mostly.

Savage

 

[Shadow Bear]

Originally posted by savage:
I think I'll check out Fractal Mapper. The price is right these days. I'd probably be willing to try out ProFantasy if there was a better deckplans support.

Savage

Profantasy is producing a SF symbols set in the near future. If it is anywhere near the quality of the previous symbol sets it will be great.

 

[Uncle Bob]

I had an epiphany: Fractile Mapper is doing very nicely now, thank you. I hope to have my deckplans for a 500 ton "Clipper" class Fast Merchant posted by next week

 

[Hyperkit]

Hi, I'm new here to pick up more info on Traveller ship designing, and saw the Campaign Cartographer question.

I write SF, my series, published by DAW has the 7th bookout on Jan 7th adn I use a mix of Classic Traveller and Gurps Traveller to design the ships cos waaay back in book 2 my editor told me to do that. I used pencil and paper, then stumbled over CC2.

It is fantastic, AND they are even now working on an SF Add On, never mind just a symbol set! As well as that, they just revamped the basic CC2 into CC2 Pro and it has a Universal updater for all the add ons you own. You need Dungeon Designer too as it is for all Interiors.

I got ProFantasy interested in contacting Marc Miller about then making some arrangement with him to use The Naval Architects Manual in the SF Add On which I was lucky enough to buy on e-bay. Keep your fingers crossed because given the standard and ease of mapping ships already, it is going to be fantastic! Not that you can't do a great job now, but with more SF based symbols for engine rooms and such...

Go to the Download secion of www.profantasy.com and look for one called the Couana, it's a space ship I designed with the help of Andre Ellem and is up on their site. I mention it cos obviously I remeber it. <grin> There's many more there and most of the designers are also Traveller people.

There are lots of symbols you can use for space ships if you download a few Deck Plans from their Download area cos those up there are allowing you to use the symbols embedded in their drawings. Read any text files or Disclaimers of course cos not everyone wants you to use their laboriously designed symbolss.

If you want more info on this, mail me.

Currently I have a forum board up asking for help planning a mission for the next novel using Traveller style set up n ships, and mapping in CC2 the city they have to retake. If interested in planning to retake one imperial city on an underpopulated higher tech world than the good guys, without destroying said city, (TL 12-14 I think..)please visit us and at least read what we have there. There are quite a few CC2/Traveller folk there already as I said. Feel free to post as well if you wish. Not just that, in the General forum you can ask them about their deck plans and experiences as CC2 users, plus get plans from them.

My forum is at, http://pub37.ezboard.com/bsholantravelerandcc2project

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