OTU Only: The Vegans

[rancke]

A retcon is required.

Your two choices are:

redesign as a battle cruiser under HG2 rules (a proposed replacement for the aging Atlantic class that is being removed from service)

This choice allows you to keep the Battle of the Two Suns fluff and transfer to the Vegans.

Except I don't see how that would work. Even if you redesign the Kinunir to be a heavy cruiser, 24 ships is still a very small production run and four of them is still only a minor fraction of the ships stationed in Regina Subsector. And as for the Battle of the two Suns, is a single heavy cruiser, even with a black globe, really going to to sustain four hours of steady attack (presumably by Zhodani cruisers of comparable size) before screen failure? Are we talking about a battle between a few cruisers on each side or about an actual fleet engagement?

As for the transfer to the Vegans, I've indicated two possibilities to explain that.


Hans

 

[WistfulD]

A battle with four or twenty-four isn't exactly a fleet engagement. Like Warhammer and Battletech, you have to find a way to explain away the size of the conflict. I haven't read this adventure recently enough to remember what went on, but some possible explanations for the general situation are:
1) they are the ships that are here now, and everything else is more than 6 hours away.
2) everyone has a truckload of WMDs, and this skirmish is a battle of restraint.
3) a truce is holding overall, these are just the ships that are involved where it breaks. Success by the PCs might indicate that they convince the rest of the sector to keep to the truce.
something like that.

Overall, you just have to decide which is important, retaining the details of the adventure, or the feel.

 

[salochin999]

I'd divide the information in the module into different pieces and put them in two piles: a battle cruiser pile and a patrol cruiser pile.

IMTU there is a big ship universe and a small ship universe so the battle cruisers can be the big ship high guard version and the version in the module can be the patrol cruiser version built for the backwaters.

1) The battle information relates to the battle cruiser.

(As to explaining the details the book mentions the other side having supply problems so maybe make the battle cruiser prevent refueling or holding up a supply convoy and their cruiser escort so when the main action started the other side hadn't been able to replenish missiles or something.)

2) The low number built relates to the patrol cruiser as the 3I mostly leaves the backwaters to the scouts and only builds the minimum number of navy ships necessary to show the flag and as such 16-24 is the standard number for a sector.

3) The gift to the Vegans could be a refitted ambassadorial yacht - not a bad gift especially if the Vegans didn't have any black globe generators.

4) Some of the general info in the book can relate to the battle cruiser, some to the patrol cruiser.

So basically keep all the adventure and data part as is but make it about the patrol cruiser class and detach the fluff that doesn't fit and attach it to a battle cruiser instead.

 

[Easterner9504]

They were retconned to Colonial Cruisers and in Leviathan IIRC commanded 2-3 Gazelles and were designated for anti-piracy and excelled at this.

 

[salochin999]

They were retconned to Colonial Cruisers and in Leviathan...

I might have read it there then - years back but some things stick for some reason.

... IIRC commanded 2-3 Gazelles and were designated for anti-piracy and excelled at this.

Yeah that's how I see the backwater navy imtu - perfect for Type M or R merchantmen turned pirate.

Keep the battle fluff from the adventure and just switch it to a different ship - give the battle cruiser version a similar name and blame it on confusion: "oh you mean it was the Ikkunir class battle cruiser at the battle of fading suns not the Kinunir class colonial cruiser."

 

[whulorigan]

Keep the battle fluff from the adventure and just switch it to a different ship - give the battle cruiser version a similar name and blame it on confusion: "oh you mean it was the Ikkunir class battle cruiser at the battle of fading suns not the Kinunir class colonial cruiser."

Go to TravellerMap and type "Kinu" into the search box, and it gives several nice alternative world-names for an alternative battlecruiser class.

 

[MikeinBallard]

I took a stab at reconcilliation last year. No, seriously.