... Darn, there goes my 'Zhodani Vargr' - a race of telepathic dogs that take control of your mind and compel you to scratch behind their ears.
... perhaps the T5 SRD/OGL?
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... Darn, there goes my 'Zhodani Vargr' - a race of telepathic dogs that take control of your mind and compel you to scratch behind their ears.
... perhaps the T5 SRD/OGL?
I would suggest checking out Mongooses Forums. I have seen a lot of questions that are asked here answered by Mat on the Mongoose forums. Here is the link
Sticky: Traveller Developer's Pack at the Mongoose Forums
Sticky: Traveller Developer's Pack at the Mongoose Forums
Vile
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Oh-oh. Looks like you're asking for a mod-slappdown ... :devil:
Nope. In the cases of GT, HT and MGT, suggestions to check their "native" forums are not out of line.
From MGT? Oh, yeah.
Note that the task modifiers from Attribute are not in the SRD (but the rest of tasks seems to be), so one could easily incorporate a variant there, but can't exactly match the MGT book unless one goes with requiring the MGT book.
captainjack
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well, Dirk probably has first dibs on the name, at least - politeness, not SRD/OGL stuff. Any comments Dirk ?
Vile
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Flynn had better head over to the Mongoose forums right now, there's trouble brewing over the fan publications policy ... o:
o:msprange said:Hi guys,
We are currently looking into this. We have no wish to hammer fan-based publications, but now the TLL and OGL have been released for Traveller, we have to be very sure about what can be done, and how.
To give an example. . .
Suppose Stellar Reaches (or A N Other web site) produces a new rules article for Traveller - they would use the OGL to do so (no getting round that, it is what it is there for - though they need not use the TLL).
Now suppose, in the same issue (or the same article!), they also have a piece on how Scouts, say, interact with the rest of the OTU. If that piece also becomes Open Content, it creates a massive problem for us, as people could use it as an end-around to sell OTU material. Which is a no-no (and not because we are greedy - the agreement we have with Marc, indeed one of the fundamental points of the new Traveller, is that OTU material only comes from one source).
There are possible ways round this, but we need to work through them so that everyone is happy.
Basically, someone needs to get the guy behind Stellar Reaches to contact me
Border Reiver
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Oh dear. It's all going wrong again, Mum. o:
o:Ian Absentia
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Is this really the case, though? You can't quote text or duplicate graphics from the MGT book that isn't in the SRD, but wouldn't a list of numbers fall under the "rules concepts are fair game" rubric? Otherwise, yeah, your suggestion of tweaking the attribute mods is a usable work-around.*
In any case, was the omission of the attribute modifiers purposefully intended to prevent broader application of the SRD, or was it an oversight?
!i!
[*Edit: And, while we're at it, there's no provision in the SRD for generating characteristic stats, either. How should one work around this?]
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Vile said:Flynn had better head over to the Mongoose forums right now, there's trouble brewing over the fan publications policy ...
That's hilarious, in a sad way, since Flynn's been pestering them about Stellar Reaches for months now and has had plenty of reassurances from Matt. But I suspect that Mongoose and Stellar Reaches will be able to hammer out an accord.
GypsyComet
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This particular can of worms was opened years ago, since the pre-Mongoose approach toward fan sites and publications was "eh, whatever, just include this copyright/trademark notice." Only now, with this "unification" kick, is it discovered that this genie will not be going back in the bottle.
The root of the problem is the black-and-white approach to setting material in the OGL. Open or Closed. Use freely or "stay off my lawn".
For much of its history, Traveller setting material has existed in a different state, that of "Canon." If its published by the right people, it is Canon. Otherwise, it isn't. Fan material is just that. No one expects it to be Canon, but it is otherwise free to wander around the Canon basics and add information.
Now the playing field has changed and so has the game.
Mongoose and/or Marc need to clarify, in writing and in one spot that will not sink to page 45 on some BBS, whether or not the web presence that, frankly, kept Traveller alive for the last 13 years is going to be tolerated or slapped down. Web sites, boards, free PDF "magazines", and mailing lists all need to have their status determined. If they are determined to fall within the OGL with regard to Canon references, Mongoose and Marc will have what amounts to a mass extinction on their hands.
The root of the problem is the black-and-white approach to setting material in the OGL. Open or Closed. Use freely or "stay off my lawn".
For much of its history, Traveller setting material has existed in a different state, that of "Canon." If its published by the right people, it is Canon. Otherwise, it isn't. Fan material is just that. No one expects it to be Canon, but it is otherwise free to wander around the Canon basics and add information.
Now the playing field has changed and so has the game.
Mongoose and/or Marc need to clarify, in writing and in one spot that will not sink to page 45 on some BBS, whether or not the web presence that, frankly, kept Traveller alive for the last 13 years is going to be tolerated or slapped down. Web sites, boards, free PDF "magazines", and mailing lists all need to have their status determined. If they are determined to fall within the OGL with regard to Canon references, Mongoose and Marc will have what amounts to a mass extinction on their hands.
Thunderbolt
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Hmm, I'm wondering if my occasional references to Traveller-esque things in my artwork stories is going to be a problem. I had a Vargr reference recently, and numerous mentions of the Imperium in the past.
Vile
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Well, the only thing to do is wait for the official news from the Mongoose's mouth. It's entirely possible that online OTU material will go the same way as Glorantha fansites did, which is to say a lot of them shut down without waiting to see what Greg's "fan policy" really meant.
Don't panic, and if you have any really clever ideas of how to make the legalese work out fine, why not drop Matt a line and tell him ...
Don't panic, and if you have any really clever ideas of how to make the legalese work out fine, why not drop Matt a line and tell him ...
Thunderbolt
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Sent a message and will see what happens, otherwise an exercise in word replacement and not insubstantial 'ret-con' work is coming my way. :-(
Argh, I even mention Lanthanum for jump drives in a recent piece, can they get me for that?
Argh, I even mention Lanthanum for jump drives in a recent piece, can they get me for that?
Hardly, unless they invented "jump drive" and "lanthanum", which I really
doubt.
o:
Vile
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At the moment, I doubt if Mongoose is out to "get" anyone. It seems to me they would like to find the right bit of wording which would allow fan-created OTU-based material to continue. Here's hoping.
The world has just become a more copyright-aware place than it was back in the good of dead-tree fanzine days. Personally, I think it's a case of not seeing the wood for the trees. Various industries are starting to believe their own propaganda about every non-licensed product equalling a lost sale, without ever conducting any research into the premise.
The world has just become a more copyright-aware place than it was back in the good of dead-tree fanzine days. Personally, I think it's a case of not seeing the wood for the trees. Various industries are starting to believe their own propaganda about every non-licensed product equalling a lost sale, without ever conducting any research into the premise.
Andrew Boulton
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"The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers".
- (Henry VI (Part 2), Act IV, Scene II).
- (Henry VI (Part 2), Act IV, Scene II).
Vile
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If Henry VI lays one finger on my wife, there'll be hell to pay ... :frankie:
He's already dead.
What, exactly, can you do to him?
PS. Would it help to send her e-mails demanding that she let Flynn publish Stellar Reaches?
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