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Twilight 2000 4E nuclear targets map

Diveguy said:
Your conclusion that it would not be spared sir.
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Diveguy said:
I'm less discussing the strategic facilities and more the "let's not make the whole straits a high-rad zone if we don't need to" idea.
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I frankly don't believe such a military base will be left unnuked, seeing other targets...

How long will it be a high-rad zone? and this will hardly affect the Russian fleet. As Condotiere said, it was not powerful in the Mediterranean, and its submarines would not be so affected...
 
Grav_Moped said:
At the least, they'd have hit the McDonnel Douglas facilities at LGB airport! (Later Boeing, since mostly demolished and replaced by office parks and retail. Relativity Space was using one of the last remaining hangars.)

And yes, the USN had a presence at LA/Long Beach in the 80s.
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Yes, as a kid we used to go down and watch the ships going in and out. Long Beach and the port are very different today then back in the 70's for sure. :)
 
McPerth said:
I frankly don't believe such a military base will be left unnuked, seeing other targets...

How long will it be a high-rad zone? and this will hardly affect the Russian fleet. As Condotiere said, it was not powerful in the Mediterranean, and its submarines would not be so affected...
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And those are fair counterpoints. Just offering my food for thought - which is part of the fun exercise of revisiting such game/timeframes and doing the "what if?" options.
 
My thoughts on the 1st Edition target map can be found here.
Timerover51

Thread 'Thoughts on Twilight 2000'

I have been spending some time looking again at Twilight 2000, including buying three of the online modules at DriveThru: Gateway to the Spanish Main, Korean Peninsula Sourcebook, and the East African Sourcebook. I bought the module Gateway to the Spanish Main when it came out and then bought Twilight 2000 to see how it worked. I am a sucker for ships, including sailing ships. (See my Horatio Hornblower collection along with others.)

In looking at some of the other modules, I keep thinking that there was some wishful thinking when it came to nuclear weapon targets, primarily New London...
 
This map is pure K'Kree dung.

It is critical infrastructure and military sites that were the targets in the 80's.

I have an uncle who was a missile silo commander in Minot ND, back in the 80's. He said there are many other military/sensitive sites in and around NY State, over half of it would be directly glassed. Albany, Troy and Schenectady each had a 100 megaton bomb aimed at them. The Watervliet Arsenal had one just for itself. The bunker busters of Desert Storm, many of the cannons for the navy, t and the armor and cannon for M1 Abrams tanks are made there. I just remembered, Grumman still had a factory down in Bethpage, Long Island back then.

Now for reference, I live roughly 10 miles north of Albany NY, along side the Hudson River. On the other side is Troy and Schenectady is about 16 miles west of me. The Watervliet Arsenal is less than ten minutes from me. GE has an R&D facility in Schenectady with Knolls Atomic Power Labs near by it. Over in Troy is Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute has a reactor. Heck, the old Kodak facility in Rochester had a nuc plant too.


It wasn't going to look like Damnation Alley's version of Albany NY theat is for sure (the scene at the end was filmed up in the Saratoga area, btw).


MAD, no one gets out alive.
 
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Deldarius said:
This map is pure K'Kree dung.

It is critical infrastructure and military sites that were the targets in the 80's.

I have an uncle who was a missile silo commander in Minot ND, back in the 80's. He said there are many other military/sensitive sites in and around NY State, over half of it would be directly glassed. Albany, Troy and Schenectady each had a 100 megaton bomb aimed at them. The Watervliet Arsenal had one just for itself. The bunker busters of Desert Storm, many of the cannons for the navy, t and the armor and cannon for M1 Abrams tanks are made there. I just remembered, Grumman still had a factory down in Bethpage, Long Island back then.
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During a period of bizzarity in Russia, much of the Kremlin's archive was available online, including (briefly) the targeting lists. A lot of expected sites were missed. A number of WTF sites were listed.

Whittier, AK, got targeted. Hasn't been a military site since 1953 or so. Not a terror target, either; too small. But it was still targeted by the Kremlin in the 90's.

The thing is, targeting require that the targeteer believes that there's a valuable target there. Not all extant sites worthy of targeting will be believed worthy. Not all sites thought worthy are worthy.
 
Puget Sound should be glassed in any Cold War timeline. Between Bangor, Whidbey Island, Bremerton, Fort Lewis, McChord, Boeing plants, and the cargo facilities, there's targets to go around for a number of bombs.
 
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Nuclear proliferation seems likely.
 
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