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Vargr/Aslan Language.

I am trying to figure out what almost the entire section of both the aslan and vargr books means in regards to generating words. What does it mean by initial consonates(#). How bout frequency? The pronunciation, i am assuming, means that you say the word, the italicized section is the way the letters are pronounced in alien words. Whats a VC, CVC, CV, and i guess V for these purposes, and what does it mean by a ratio such as 1:3:3:3(V:CV:VC:CVC) as taken out of the vargr book. These two sections are the most confusing concept I have ever seen in a role-playing book, and I used to play Whitewolf. Thanks for any help in advance :)

Apparition
 
vowel is A E I O or U (I think the Vargr add things like AE and OE as well)

consonants are non vowels eg B
so you could have as a CVC example B AE G (Baeg), which would be the first syllable of the word

You then add further syllable's until you have a word you like the sound of, with Vargr something ending in RGH sounds nice, so
BAEG ARGH gives the word Baegargh

Hope this is more useful

Kind Regards

David


But what does that mean exacty? That is actully spelled out in the texts, but makes very little sense to me.
 
But what does that mean exacty? That is actully spelled out in the texts, but makes very little sense to me.
It means that if you want to make up a word that might belong to that language, you adjust your random generation tables to produce syllables with vowels and consonants in those proportions. The Alien modules had tables that allowed you to generate words with the proper frequencies.

Here's a word generator I made up myself. It's for the language of the Sindalian Empire. Non-canonical, but it shows the principles. (Incidentally, anyone who wants to use this table for legitimate Traveller purposes, up to and including official products, have my permission to do so).

Code:
SINDALIAN WORD GENERATOR
========================

Word length: 1-6 syllables, but mostly 2-5. Throw 1D with 1 counting as 3
and 6 counting as 4 half the time (i.e. if you get a 1 or a 6, throw a second
time with a 50% chance of converting them to 3s and 4s).

BASIC                                   ALTERNATE
       White Die                                White Die
  Red                                      Red
  Die  1   2   3   4   5   6               Die  1   2   3   4   5   6

   1  VC  VC  CV  CV  CV  CV                1   V  VC  CV  CV  CV  CV
   2  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV                2  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV
   3  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV                3  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV  CV
   4  CV  CV CVC CVC CVC CVC                4  CV  CV CVC CVC CVC CVC
   5 CVC CVC CVC CCV CCV CVC                5 CVC CVC CVC CVC CVC CVC
   6 CVC CVC CVC CVC CVC CVC                6 CVC CVC CVC CVC CVC CVC
Initial syllable                         Second and subsequent syllable



INITIAL CONSONANT          VOWEL                     FINAL CONSONANT

1:     White Die           1:     White Die          1:      White Die
  Red                        Red                        Red  
  Die  1  2  3  4  5  6      Die  1  2  3  4  5  6      Die  1  2  3  4  5  6

   1   B  B  B  B  B  B       1   A  A  A  A  A  A       1   D  D  D  D  D  D
   2   B  B  B  B  B  B       2   A  A  A  A  A  A       2   D  D  D  D  D  D
   3   B  B  B  B  B  B       3   A  A  A  A  A  A       3   D  D  D  D  D  D
   4  BR BR BR BR  C  C       4   A  A  A  A  A  A       4   K  K  K  K  K  K
   5   C  C  C  C  C  C       5   A  A  A  A  A  A       5   K  K  K  L  L  L
   6   C  C  C  C  C  C       6   A  A  A  A  A  A       6   L  L  L  L  L  L

2:     White Die           2:     White Die          2:      White Die
  Red                        Red                       Red
  Die  1  2  3  4  5  6      Die  1  2  3  4  5  6     Die   1  2  3  4  5  6

   1   C  C  C  C  D  D       1   A  A  A  A  A  A      1    L  L  L  L  L  L
   2   D  D  D  D  D  D       2   A  A  A  A  A  A      2    L  L  L  L  L  L
   3   F  F  F  F  G  G       3   A  A  A  A  A  A      3    L  L  L  L  L  L
   4   G  G  G  G  G  G       4   A  A  A  A  A  A      4    L  L  L  L  L  L
   5   G  G  G  G  G  G       5   A  A  A  A  A  A      5    L  L  L  M  M  M
   6   G  G  G  H  H  H       6   A  A  A  A  A  A      6    M  M  M  M  M  M
  
3:     White Die           3:     White Die          3:      White Die
  Red                        Red                       Red
  Die  1  2  3  4  5  6      Die  1  2  3  4  5  6     Die   1  2  3  4  5  6

   1   H  H HR HR HR HR       1   E  E  E  E  E  E      1    N  N  N  N  N  N
   2   K  K  K  K KR KR       2   E  E  E  E  E  E      2    N  N  N  N  N  N
   3  KR KR KR  J  J  J       3   E  E  E  E  E  E      3    N  N  N  N  N  N 
   4   J  L  L  L  L  L       4   E  E  E  E  E  E      4    N  N  N  N  N  N
   5   L  L  L  L  L  L       5   E  E  E  E  E  E      5    N  N  N  N  N  N
   6   L  L  L  L  L  L       6   E  E  E  E  E  E      6    N  N  N  N  N  N 

4:     White Die           4:    White Die           4:      White Die
  Red                        Red                       Red
  Die  1  2  3  4  5  6      Die  1  2  3  4  5  6     Die   1  2  3  4  5  6

   1   L  L  L  M  M  M       1   E  E  E  E  E  E      1    N  N  N  N  N  N
   2   M  N  N  N  N  N       2   I  I  I  I  I  I      2    N  N  N  N  N  N
   3   N  N  N  N  N  N       3   I  I  I  I  I  I      3    N  N  N  N  N  N
   4   N  P  P  P  P  P       4   I  I  I  I  I  I      4    N  N  N  N  N  N
   5   P  P  P  P  P  P       5   I  I  I IA IA IA      5    N  N  N  N  N  N
   6   P  P  P  P  P  P       6  IA IA IA IO IO IO      6    N  N  N  N  N  N

5:     White Die           5:    White Die           5:      White Die
  Red                        Red                       Red
  Die  1  2  3  4  5  6      Die  1  2  3  4  5  6     Die   1  2  3  4  5  6

   1   P  R  R  R  R  R       1  IO IO IO IO IO IO      1    N  N  N  N  N  N
   2   R  R  R  R  R  R       2  IO IO IO  O  O  O      2    N  N  N  R  R  R
   3   R  R  R  R  R  R       3   O  O  O  O  O  O      3    R  R  R  R  R  R
   4   R  R  R  R  R  R       4   O  O  O  O  O  O      4    R  R  R  R  R  R
   5   R  R  R  R  R  R       5   O  O  O  O  O  O      5    R  R  R  R  R  R
   6   R  S  S  S  S  S       6   O  O  O  O  O  O      6    R  R  R  R  R  R

6:     White Die           6:     White Die          6:      White Die
  Red                        Red                       Red
  Die  1  2  3  4  5  6      Die  1  2  3  4  5  6     Die   1  2  3  4  5  6

   1   S  S  S  S  S  S       1   O  O  O  O  O  O      1    R  R  R  R  R  R
   2   S SH SH SH SH SH       2   O  O  O  O  O  O      2    R  R  R  S  S  S
   3   T  T  T  T  T TR       3   O  O  O  U  U  U      3    S  S  S  S  S  S
   4  TR TR TR TR TR  V       4   U  U  U  U  U  U      4    S  S  S  S  S  S
   5   V  V  V  V  V  V       5   U  U  U  U  U  U      5    S  S  S  S  S  S 
   6   V  V  Z  Z  Z  Z       6   Y  Y  Y  Y  Y  Y      6    S  S  S  S  S  S
Example: Roll 1D for word length. Result is a 6, so you roll again, with a score of 1-3 resulting in a four-syllable word:

X-X-X-X

For the initial syllable you roll two distinct dice (referred to as the red die and the white die here) and consult the basic table. A 1 on the white die and a 4 on the red die:

CV-X-X-X

For the three subsequent syllables you do the same but consult the alternate syllable table. A 3/4, a 6/2, and a 2/4:

CV-CVC-CV-CV.

For the individual letters you roll three distinct dice (I use a green die for the third) and consult the initial consonant table if it's a consonant before that syllable's vowel, the vowel table if it's a vowel, and the final consonant table if it's a consonant after that syllable's vovel. Green = 3, white = 3, red = 5 results in an 'L'. 3/4/5 means an 'E'.

Le-CVC-CV-CV.

The throws for the next syllable are 6/1/2, 6/6/6, and 1/2/6:

Le-syl-CV-CV

The throws for the two last syllables are: 6/3/1, 6/2/1, 3/3/4, and 2/6/5:

Le-syl-so-la.

Final result: Lesylsola. Would you like another serving of stewed lesylsola roots? Or are you going hunting in the Lesylsola Mountains today? Are you taking your pump-action .53 Lesylsola on the hunt? Are you hunting the savage and cunning lesylsola? Or are you going to stay home and vote for Krias Lesylsola, The People's Choice?

Some words will sound wrong to you. You can either decide that it's a feature of the language or you can toss the word and make up another one instead.


Hans
 
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But what does that mean exacty? That is actully spelled out in the texts, but makes very little sense to me.

It means one in 1 syllables will be just a vowel.
3 in 10 will be CV
3 in 10 will be VC
3 in 10 will be CVC.

So, when making up words, one should shoot to replicate those frequencies.

Pretty typical con-lang type stuff.

For example, Arrgah iroun aragh might be used as a ship name...
It was created as a VC-CVC VC-VC V-CVC phrase.

When creating words for traveller language groups, pick a meaning, and for each word you want to translate, start by determining the syllable structure.

EG: I want a 4 syllable word for snarking off boldly, and I want it to be pretty litly. I'll pick V-CV-CV-CVC. Then I'll pick (usually randomly) the vowels and consonants from the relevant frequency lists. Then I apply any needed elisions and transformations listed. I'm picking, today, tho'.
So, start replacing: V... let's pickt a sarcastic sounding ou.
CV... I feel like it needs a guttural for best sarcasm, so gh consonant, and the common ae. So, ghae.
CV... the second one, since I'm tailoring, will also use an ae... I think I want a k. So kae
Finally a CVC. Sticking with AE for that petulant snarkyness, and a final ng for snark factor, and I think the k should repeat... so kaeng
Putting it all together, oughaekaekaeng.
 
Here's a word generator I made up myself. It's for the language of the Sindalian Empire. Non-canonical, but it shows the principles. (Incidentally, anyone who wants to use this table for legitimate Traveller purposes, up to and including official products, have my permission to do so).

Hans, in accordance with the above, this is a necessary courtesy notification that I'm going to convert the tables you posted to the format I use for my WordGen program, and add this language to the package.
 
Hans, in accordance with the above, this is a necessary courtesy notification that I'm going to convert the tables you posted to the format I use for my WordGen program, and add this language to the package.
Excellent!


Hans
 
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