What battleship classes do we know of?
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Supp 8 had a picture of the Sylea class and this text for Battleship:
Jump-capable starship intended to stand in the line of battle in space combat.
Two opposite view in naval architecture have dominated the design of the major battleships of space navies. The battleship concept involves large, well-armed and well-armored starships of massive tonnage and capable of meeting almost any adversary. In a battle against a superior force, however, the battleship can flee using its own jump drives. The opposite concept (of the battle rider carried into combat by a battle tender) does not allow for the possibility of superior force; no matter how good a rider is, if it meets a superior adversary, it is placed in a position of winning or dying. Retreat is nearly impossible without losses.
See Battle Rider.
Jump-capable starship intended to stand in the line of battle in space combat.
Two opposite view in naval architecture have dominated the design of the major battleships of space navies. The battleship concept involves large, well-armed and well-armored starships of massive tonnage and capable of meeting almost any adversary. In a battle against a superior force, however, the battleship can flee using its own jump drives. The opposite concept (of the battle rider carried into combat by a battle tender) does not allow for the possibility of superior force; no matter how good a rider is, if it meets a superior adversary, it is placed in a position of winning or dying. Retreat is nearly impossible without losses.
See Battle Rider.
The Empire's Banner, a Sylean battleship, but it's only 90 ktons, and only a passing mention... and it looks like it can only be TL 11. MT Referee's Companion, p36.
In Double Star, the battleship counters have more firepower and twice the defense of cruisers, but are usually a bit slower.
The High Guard 3 draft also quotes: "When a battleship meets any lesser type of ship, its victory is almost guaranteed." It also mentions the line about their secondary defenses to deflect smallcraft and missiles, and also their bulk to absorb (other types of) damage.
I've also seen quotes dotting around other sources (MT and T4) to the effect that a lone battleship is considered an "easy kill", presumably against a squadron of cruisers. And of course the mention that a Rider can match a Battleship.
FSOSI.
BB-11. 300kt, J2M3A0.
BB-12. 300kt, J3M3A0.
BB-13. 300kt, J4M2A0.
BB-13 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0.
BB-14 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0.
BB-15 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0.
BB-15 missile. 500kt, J4M1A0.
BB-15 strike. 200kt, J6M1A0.
Yuk, these all look terrible.
ACS-2 B1 and B2 CDROM: some names of Solomani Planet-class dreadnoughts: Gashidda, Dingitr, Aghidda.
AHL: The Loss of the Bard Endeavour: In the closing stages of the Solomani Rim War, an lmperial task force built around the fleet intruder Bard Endeavour was am- bushed while refuelling in the Kagukhasaggan system by the Solomani dreadnought Retaliation and a large number of accompanyingwarships, together forming Strike Force Daring.
SMC: The 154th Battle Squadron: From 627 to 722, the 154th was organized as a Battle Squadron, with eight Tronskia class jump-3 Dreadnoughts.
Here's my take on the Tronskia:
In early 1108, [the 154th] was transferred to the 212th Fleet for operations against the Vargr Fleets at Yorbund, Kinorb, and Beck's World. Damage to the 1st and 3rd Riders, incurred during a battle with the Arrghonz class Dreadnoughts of Ekhlle Ksafi Battle Squadron 8, forced the squadron to withdraw to Paya (2509) for repairs.
And of course I have Skoydresk-class Ancient Dreadnoughts, but I don't have much data on them yet, except that they're terrifying.
In Double Star, the battleship counters have more firepower and twice the defense of cruisers, but are usually a bit slower.
The High Guard 3 draft also quotes: "When a battleship meets any lesser type of ship, its victory is almost guaranteed." It also mentions the line about their secondary defenses to deflect smallcraft and missiles, and also their bulk to absorb (other types of) damage.
I've also seen quotes dotting around other sources (MT and T4) to the effect that a lone battleship is considered an "easy kill", presumably against a squadron of cruisers. And of course the mention that a Rider can match a Battleship.
FSOSI.
BB-11. 300kt, J2M3A0.
BB-12. 300kt, J3M3A0.
BB-13. 300kt, J4M2A0.
BB-13 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0.
BB-14 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0.
BB-15 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0.
BB-15 missile. 500kt, J4M1A0.
BB-15 strike. 200kt, J6M1A0.
Yuk, these all look terrible.
ACS-2 B1 and B2 CDROM: some names of Solomani Planet-class dreadnoughts: Gashidda, Dingitr, Aghidda.
AHL: The Loss of the Bard Endeavour: In the closing stages of the Solomani Rim War, an lmperial task force built around the fleet intruder Bard Endeavour was am- bushed while refuelling in the Kagukhasaggan system by the Solomani dreadnought Retaliation and a large number of accompanyingwarships, together forming Strike Force Daring.
SMC: The 154th Battle Squadron: From 627 to 722, the 154th was organized as a Battle Squadron, with eight Tronskia class jump-3 Dreadnoughts.
Here's my take on the Tronskia:
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Ship: Tronskia
Class: Tronskia
Type: Dreadnought
Tech Level: 13
USP
BB-S4468F4-003307-008P9-1 MCr 175,425.600 200 KTons
Bat Bear D D1D Crew: 2030
Bat L L1L TL: 13
Cargo: 331.000 Fuel: 96,000.000 EP: 16,000.000 Agility: 6
Shipboard Security Detail: 200 Marines: 200
Craft: 80 x 25T Fighter
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops and On Board Fuel Purification
Architects Fee: MCr 1,734.256 Cost in Quantity: MCr 140,740.480In early 1108, [the 154th] was transferred to the 212th Fleet for operations against the Vargr Fleets at Yorbund, Kinorb, and Beck's World. Damage to the 1st and 3rd Riders, incurred during a battle with the Arrghonz class Dreadnoughts of Ekhlle Ksafi Battle Squadron 8, forced the squadron to withdraw to Paya (2509) for repairs.
And of course I have Skoydresk-class Ancient Dreadnoughts, but I don't have much data on them yet, except that they're terrifying.
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One of the High Passage magazines (5 I think) had a TL14 battleship. Unfortunately all my books are in storage due to the earthquake so I can't look it up
One of the High Passage magazines (5 I think) had a TL14 battleship. Unfortunately all my books are in storage due to the earthquake so I can't look it up
You're right, it's the Uzhsu class.
TL=14 100ktons
J4M5A4 Q Factor Spinal Meson Gun
Far Traveller #2 had another, the Inkaalur class
TL=15 (originally 14 but upgraded) 100ktons
J3M5A5 T Factor Spinal Meson Gun
Garyius2003
SOC-13
Great post. I am replying to note that Mongoose, as I have been studying the system over the past week, is trying to get away from the Old Traveller High Guard model of missiles at TL 11, switching over to spinals only at TL 14/15.
They introduced the torpedos, I think in an attempt to model the Battle of Leyte Gulf, where 75% of the large ship kills were torpedo attacks from destroyers or less. 6D6 stand off bomb pumped laser torpedos will hit half the time even against armor 15 or 18 battleships. And they can be carried by CEs, DEs, and even by slightly oversized fighters.
Extending the argument to the death of the Yamato, I think the point is made. The largest ship of the line in the world, best main guns, best armor. Steaming at full speed, it was attacked by 280 planes, many with torpedos. It shrugged off lots of attacks. After a while, though, they added up.
Mongoose attempts to model this with their fighters and torpedo boats going M10 to M12.
A combined flighter and torpedo boat fleet from carriers and Tigress launches 200 bomb pumped torpedos at a armor 10 Zho mind raper battleship. Using the barrage rules the attack should have about a +3 or so, with minus two to defense plus the armor of 10--so minus 5 and a decent attack roll give a damage of 50%. This does serious damage to the hull in that section, and may even start doing system damage.
A second or third wave kills the mind rapers long before it comes into very long range of the Tigress.
Battleships need a lot more casters or beam lasers, and fighters and DEs/CEs to kill other torpedo boats become a lot more important.
ETA: All of the sudden the Tigeress with 200 torpedo boats (40ton) and 500 light fighters (10ton) looks like a great use of the rear of the ship. So long as she has 18-20 armor and lots of 100 ton meson bays and beam lasers with extra comps running fire control +5
That totally changes the game and means there are 1-3 light carriers in every cruiser task force, and fleet carriers with all the battle wagons.
They introduced the torpedos, I think in an attempt to model the Battle of Leyte Gulf, where 75% of the large ship kills were torpedo attacks from destroyers or less. 6D6 stand off bomb pumped laser torpedos will hit half the time even against armor 15 or 18 battleships. And they can be carried by CEs, DEs, and even by slightly oversized fighters.
Extending the argument to the death of the Yamato, I think the point is made. The largest ship of the line in the world, best main guns, best armor. Steaming at full speed, it was attacked by 280 planes, many with torpedos. It shrugged off lots of attacks. After a while, though, they added up.
Mongoose attempts to model this with their fighters and torpedo boats going M10 to M12.
A combined flighter and torpedo boat fleet from carriers and Tigress launches 200 bomb pumped torpedos at a armor 10 Zho mind raper battleship. Using the barrage rules the attack should have about a +3 or so, with minus two to defense plus the armor of 10--so minus 5 and a decent attack roll give a damage of 50%. This does serious damage to the hull in that section, and may even start doing system damage.
A second or third wave kills the mind rapers long before it comes into very long range of the Tigress.
Battleships need a lot more casters or beam lasers, and fighters and DEs/CEs to kill other torpedo boats become a lot more important.
ETA: All of the sudden the Tigeress with 200 torpedo boats (40ton) and 500 light fighters (10ton) looks like a great use of the rear of the ship. So long as she has 18-20 armor and lots of 100 ton meson bays and beam lasers with extra comps running fire control +5
That totally changes the game and means there are 1-3 light carriers in every cruiser task force, and fleet carriers with all the battle wagons.
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It's the Voroshilev, a 200 kdton TL 13 BB refited to TL 15 (PP and computer changed) and with its R rated PA refited to an A rated experimental desintegrator (in truth, to fill in, it should be a B class).
One of the curiosities it has is that it is unarmored (MT armor 40, quivalent to HG armor 0) and has only Nuclear Dampers 3 and Meson Screen 3. It doesn't seem very survivable...
BTW, the advantage of the A (or B) rated desintegrator against the R rated PA (or even better, changing it to an M rated Meson Gun, which also fits there)is something worth nothing in the current MT rules (even counting errata). That's something even Mr McKenny agrees and has posponed the discusion about it in the MT errata thread (MT forum)
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In thinking over the Battleships and Battle Tenders/Riders of the Knights of St George, Turin Consolidation, and Solomani Confederation, I've been considering the Imperium's craft that the Solomani would be planning to engage.
Going off of Supp 9, It says the Tigress is the biggest ship currently serving in the Spinward Marches but that there are older and larger ships. Any ideas on those?
The only place I know of for stats on the Sylea is Battle Rider. It's listed as TL15, J3/G6. It has the best spinal weapon in the game and looks like it outguns everything else, including the TL15 Gallant Battle-rider
I think it's a more than a little... peculiar that the Kokirrak's are said to be older and ready to be retired but listed as TL15 and specified as being optimized for admiral/command ship usage with extensive comms. Given the age of the Azhanti High Lightning and it's evolution, this would indicate at best the Kokirrak is a failed design or role confusion/overlap with Plankwell, but I'm thinking perhaps it should be retconned as TL14. Similarly, the Plankwell's status as a pure battleship yet only agility/accel 5G make me want to put as a TL14 retcon, as well, or more precisely say they started out as TL14 BB's and saw upgrades of spinals and select equipment to TL15 BL similar to the AZH FI to CF change
I imagine something the size and expense of battleships lends itself towards upgrade and maintenance cycles that should be much more conservative than something in the cruisers (AZH as the most detailed example available) and more similarity than lots of risky innovation and radical designs.
IMTU, using FSOSI and existing designs from Sup 9, MT, and BR:
BB-11. 300kt, J2M3A0.
BB-12. 300kt, J3M3A0.
BB-13. 300kt, J4M2A0. I'll just ignore than M2 and pretend it's G3 like the two previous and just TL/spinal upgrades of the original Sylean Fed battleship. Very few remaining in service as of Rebellion
BI-13. 700kt, J4M2A0. Original Sylea designed in homage of BB-13 just bigger. Some still in service toward Imperial Core but not many elsewhere. Similar to the Iowas as of Gulf War. Some high noble struts around in these things and high sentimental value but they're mostly archaic though still can serve certain roles well enough if not as comfortably by its crew
BL-13 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0. Inclined to call this the Voroshilief and count the J/M as one of MT's many typo (since Rebellion and Battle Rider both have it as J3G2
BI-14 dread. 700kt, J4M2A0. I'm inclined to go with this as J4G5 Sylea predecessor. Retired and/or Refit/upgraded to BI-15 Sylea. None in Spinward Marches/Domain of Deneb
BL-14 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0. IMTU make it G5 and original Kokirrak
BS-14 strike. 200kt, J4. IMTU make it G5 and origianl Plankwell
BI-15 dread. 700kt, J4M2A0. I'm inclined for this to be the Sylea IMTU. None in Marches/DoD/Regency
BL-15 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0. M3A0 makes no sense to me, so I'll stick with Supp 9 but make it J4G6 upgrade of Kokirrak
BB-15 missile. 500kt, J4M1A0. Matches the tonnage and Jump for the Tigress, so I'd go with that. M1A0 has got to be a chalked up as a typo and I'll ignore the picture entirely
BS-15 strike. 200kt, J6M1A0. I'll ignore FSOSI stats and pretend this picture is the TL15 upgrade of Plankwell
Going off of Supp 9, It says the Tigress is the biggest ship currently serving in the Spinward Marches but that there are older and larger ships. Any ideas on those?
The only place I know of for stats on the Sylea is Battle Rider. It's listed as TL15, J3/G6. It has the best spinal weapon in the game and looks like it outguns everything else, including the TL15 Gallant Battle-rider
I think it's a more than a little... peculiar that the Kokirrak's are said to be older and ready to be retired but listed as TL15 and specified as being optimized for admiral/command ship usage with extensive comms. Given the age of the Azhanti High Lightning and it's evolution, this would indicate at best the Kokirrak is a failed design or role confusion/overlap with Plankwell, but I'm thinking perhaps it should be retconned as TL14. Similarly, the Plankwell's status as a pure battleship yet only agility/accel 5G make me want to put as a TL14 retcon, as well, or more precisely say they started out as TL14 BB's and saw upgrades of spinals and select equipment to TL15 BL similar to the AZH FI to CF change
I imagine something the size and expense of battleships lends itself towards upgrade and maintenance cycles that should be much more conservative than something in the cruisers (AZH as the most detailed example available) and more similarity than lots of risky innovation and radical designs.
IMTU, using FSOSI and existing designs from Sup 9, MT, and BR:
BB-11. 300kt, J2M3A0.
BB-12. 300kt, J3M3A0.
BB-13. 300kt, J4M2A0. I'll just ignore than M2 and pretend it's G3 like the two previous and just TL/spinal upgrades of the original Sylean Fed battleship. Very few remaining in service as of Rebellion
BI-13. 700kt, J4M2A0. Original Sylea designed in homage of BB-13 just bigger. Some still in service toward Imperial Core but not many elsewhere. Similar to the Iowas as of Gulf War. Some high noble struts around in these things and high sentimental value but they're mostly archaic though still can serve certain roles well enough if not as comfortably by its crew
BL-13 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0. Inclined to call this the Voroshilief and count the J/M as one of MT's many typo (since Rebellion and Battle Rider both have it as J3G2
BI-14 dread. 700kt, J4M2A0. I'm inclined to go with this as J4G5 Sylea predecessor. Retired and/or Refit/upgraded to BI-15 Sylea. None in Spinward Marches/Domain of Deneb
BL-14 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0. IMTU make it G5 and original Kokirrak
BS-14 strike. 200kt, J4. IMTU make it G5 and origianl Plankwell
BI-15 dread. 700kt, J4M2A0. I'm inclined for this to be the Sylea IMTU. None in Marches/DoD/Regency
BL-15 lite. 200kt, J4M3A0. M3A0 makes no sense to me, so I'll stick with Supp 9 but make it J4G6 upgrade of Kokirrak
BB-15 missile. 500kt, J4M1A0. Matches the tonnage and Jump for the Tigress, so I'd go with that. M1A0 has got to be a chalked up as a typo and I'll ignore the picture entirely
BS-15 strike. 200kt, J6M1A0. I'll ignore FSOSI stats and pretend this picture is the TL15 upgrade of Plankwell
mike wightman
SOC-14 10K
The Kokirrak, along with the majority of the Imperium's TL15 fleet, was designed during the early years of the TL15 Imperium. The fact that we know a few TL14 ships were refitted to TL15 could imply that many of these early TL15 designs started life as Tl14 drafts and were upgraded with the new technology during the design/prototype phase.
This fleet was designed with the obvious enemy fleets still being TL14 max.
Now that the TL15 tech is mature and the design implications more fully understood it makes sense for there to be a new fleet being constructed using the lessons learned from the TL14/15 transitional ships.
One of the reasons there is so much carnage during the MT rebellion is that TL15 ships are fighting TL15 ships rather than engaging an enemy a full TL lower.
This fleet was designed with the obvious enemy fleets still being TL14 max.
Now that the TL15 tech is mature and the design implications more fully understood it makes sense for there to be a new fleet being constructed using the lessons learned from the TL14/15 transitional ships.
One of the reasons there is so much carnage during the MT rebellion is that TL15 ships are fighting TL15 ships rather than engaging an enemy a full TL lower.
The Oz
SOC-14 1K
As for battleriders in canon. from Supp. 9 we know of the Hadrian class BR, carried by the million-ton Gorodish fleet tender. One Hadrian is dropped to allow carrying the planetoid monitor Empress Troyhune to Rorise. This implies that a Hadrian is at least as big as the Empress Troyhune which gives a minimum tonnage of 50ktons. This tonnage is also supported by the fluff text below the picture of the planetoid monitor, which says that "a squadron of eight 50,000-ton battleriders in a million-ton tender approximates in price two Tigress class dreadnoughts...."
Then there's the Nolikian BRs from Spinward Marches Campaign, and their Lurenti-class BT. Both these designs are very broken.
IN Supp. 8 the picture that goes with the battlerider article shows a 300,000ton World class BT carrying five BRs of unknown class. Here's my design for the BT and her riders.
Offhand, I don't know of any more BR/BTs in canon from CT. Does anyone else?
Then there's the Nolikian BRs from Spinward Marches Campaign, and their Lurenti-class BT. Both these designs are very broken.
IN Supp. 8 the picture that goes with the battlerider article shows a 300,000ton World class BT carrying five BRs of unknown class. Here's my design for the BT and her riders.
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Ship: World
Class: World BT
Type: Battle Tender
Architect: Osmanski
Tech Level: 15
USP
BT-T7424J4-079905-70007-0 MCr 129,885.940 300 KTons
Bat Bear Y Y Y Y Crew: 1813
Bat Z Z Z Z TL: 15
Cargo: 4,878.000 Fuel: 132,000.000 EP: 12,000.000 Agility: 1 Marines: 50
Craft: 5 x 20000T Battle Riders, 20 x 50T Cutters, 6 x 95T Shuttles
Fuel Treatment: On Board Fuel Purification
Backups: 1 x Model/9fib Computer 1 x Factor 9 Nuclear Damper 1 x Factor 9 Meson Screen
Substitutions: Y = 60 Z = 100
Architects Fee: MCr 1,291.679 Cost in Quantity: MCr 104,052.352
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Ship: World BR
Class: World BR
Type: Battle Rider
Architect: Osmanski
Tech Level: 15
USP
BR-K206GJ3-F79905-770N9-6 MCr 22,013.810 19 KTons
Bat Bear 2 2 22 1C Crew: 332
Bat 2 2 22 1C TL: 15
Cargo: 583.000 Fuel: 3,040.000 EP: 3,040.000 Agility: 6 Marines: 20
Craft: 2 x 50T Cutter, 60 x 15T Light Fighter, 1 15T Launch Tubes
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops and On Board Fuel Purification
Backups: 1 x Bridge 1 x Factor 9 Nuclear Damper 1 x Factor 9 Meson Screen
Substitutions: Y = 60 Z = 100
Architects Fee: MCr 198.578 Cost in Quantity: MCr 18,042.248Offhand, I don't know of any more BR/BTs in canon from CT. Does anyone else?
I would think twice before rely on FSOSI designs, as is probably one of the most flawed books in all traveller literature. I wonder if any one design is correct on it, and some flaws are so obvious that makes clear no one reviewed it before publishing (as saying a 30 kdton ship carries 300 kdton of fuel to refuel other ships...)
Another reason is that they didn't use HG/MT combat system, as in this system the true destruction of a ship is a rare occurrence, most of losses being easily repairable in 4-8 weeks if taken to a repair facility.
Being mostly the same designs and technology, if using HG/MT rules many ships would have been taken/recovered by the side claiming the 'battlefield' (battlespace?) and be repaired, and true losses would have been minimal.
But thats another matter already discussed on other threads...
Oh yeah, I know it's designs are pure crap. The "prose" with the lineage and development seems a bit more worthy. I was going to sort of give credence to the 700k tender with 30k riders but discarded it and made them both bigger at 50k. I also like the idea of the the BZ15, though had previously considered a similar design since I have a New Era Hiver design that carried a rider (minimal/uncrewed/AI pre-Collapse but not in the New Era, of course).
I had put my Rebellion era 3I Navy based around the ships in Battle Rider and Supp 9, with it's TL14 Cleon BT and Admiral BR and TL15 Triumph/Gallant pairing (though IIRC I flipped the names to better match the description in Supp 9 so that the "new" TL15 Tender/Rider was the Cleon / Rider set of which Plankwell was NOT getting a set named after him. Interestingly enough on numbers the TL14 has 6 Riders. I was originally going to set these to be roughly 30k dt each while the TL15 Tender only carries 4 riders, so determined their riders were a bit bigger as well as more advanced so set them at 50k. TL14 30x6 = 180k tonnage of riders with TL15 50x4 = 200k tonnage. Otherwise, it's "just" the tech gap.
I'm more inclined to use TNE Battle Rider, which has most capital ships dying by critical hit in decently sized fleet actions.
How's this:
BB-11. 300kt, J2G2. Sylean Federation Federation-class Battleship from Long Night. No intact examples lasted beyond the Civil War. [FSOSI]
BB-12. 300kt, J3G3. Upgrade of BB-11 to Imperium-class and renown as "mothership" of Third Imperium in use during reign of Cleon I through the Pacification Campaigns and until the Vargr Campaigns. Many rotated to reserve fleets or member worlds and more than a few converted to museums or monuments to the early wars of the Third Imperium. Cleon's personal flagship was kept in vintage condition until it was destroyed in the Civil War when one of the Barrack's Emperors claimed it and used it as his flagship. [FSOSI]
BB-13. 300kt, J3G3. Imperator-class early Third Imperium upgrade of the BB-12 and main capital ship through Civil War. Hybrid TL/spinal/weapons upgrades of the original Sylean Fed battleship. Very few remaining in service as of Rebellion and those almost entirely in Depot reserve fleets. Most were decommissioned and destroyed in weapons testings though a couple museum ships were preserved in the Sylean Federation. [FSOSI]
BI-13. 700kt, J4G4. Original Basileus-class designed as supership . Intended to replace BB-13/BB-12, but due to the enormous costs most sectors never saw more than one or two BatRons. Served through Third Frontier War. Most were upgraded/refitted to BI-14 though a few isolated examples remain in service toward the Imperial Core, where a few high nobles/admirals strut around in these due to high sentimental value. Mostly archaic though still can serve certain roles well enough if not as comfortably by its crew. None remained behind the Claw. [FSOSI]
BL-13 lite. 200kt, J3G2. Voroshilief-class. Cost effective alternative to completely replacing BB-12 with BI-13. Retired to Depot mothball fleets by end of Civil War, where they did not perform well (and were replaced with the BT/R-14 system), though more than a few were found and reactivated in the Hard Times.[Rebellion SB, BR, FSOSI]
BT/R-14 std. 700k/880k J3G2/!JG5 Triumph-class Tender with 6x Gallant-class Riders to replace BB-13 in face of design failures of Voroshilief. Primary Imperial capital ship of the Solomani Rim War. Many transferred to Depot reserve fleets until they were called up in high numbers as the BT/R-15 were decimated in the carnage of the Rebellion. [BR, FSOSI]
BI-14 dread. 700kt, J4G5. Kaiser-class refit/upgrade of BI-13. Most BatRon were sent to the Depot mothball fleets, though a few were decomissioned to museum ships and/or destroyed in weapons testing. One functional ship kept at Depot/Deneb, which was reactivated and used as Norris' flagship during the Rebellion, cannibilizing the rest of the squadron for repair parts. Rest of the BatRon restored for service in the Quarantine during the Regency and Arrival Vengeance took the place as Norris' flagship. [FSOSI]
BL-14 lite. 200kt, J4G5. Original Kokirrak and main battleship of late TL14 Third Imperium [FSOSI, Conjecture]
BH-14 heavy. 500kt J4G5 - Panthera-class. Similar to later Tigress but without the fighter complement and a much smaller rear superstructure. Not as widely procured and more of a doctrine test platform based on lessons learned from BI-13 and BB-13, though several BatRon were completed and kept as a reaction force for the Emperor to send from Capital or Depot/Core. The Pantheras had weapons and systems upgraded and were largely test beds for the evolution of the TL15 Tigress. These hybrid Panthera BatRons remained in service in Lucan's Imperium through the Rebellion. [FSOSI]
BT/R-15 std. 700k/900k dton J3G2/!JG6 - Cleon-class Tender with 4x Admiral-class 50k dton Riders. Primary capital ship of the Third Imperium through the Rebellion though suffered the most severe casualties, particularly in the fighting between Dulinor and Lucan. [BR, FSOSI]
BTL/RL-15 light. 400k/540k dt Lurenti-class Tender with 7x Nolikian-class 20k dton Riders. Fleet doctrine test of light battle-riders and a more cost effective tender. Mostly seen on the periphery of the Third Imperium as a cheaper alternative to the BT/R-15. [Spinward Marches Campaign]
BI-15 dread. 700kdt, J3G6. New Sylea-class design as Domain command ship replacing the Kokirrak for use of highest nobles (Archdukes and/or Domain Grand Admirals). None in Marches/DoD/Regency. Dulinor's flagship Clarion is the most famous example in Imperial history [BR, FSOSI]
BL-15 lite. 200kdt, J4G6 Kokirrak-class and refit/upgrade of BL-14 though not widely procured [S9, FSOSI]
BM-15 missile. 200kdt J4G5. Early TL15 Plankwell-class and main battleship of TL15 Third Imperium [S9, FSOSI]
BH-15 heavy. 500kdt, J4G6. Tigress-class mature TL15 intended to replace both Kokirrak and Plankwells. Much more widespread than any other ship of it's size throughout the Imperium, even making it to the Solomani Rim and Spinward Marches, though not procured in quantities than the Plankwell before the Rebellion [S9, FSOSI]
BZ-15 proto. 700/850kdt J4G6. Prototypes-built to Sylea-class chassis and carrying 3x 50k dton Admiral battle-riders though the first prototype also demonstrated BT/R-14 30k dton Gallant's. [FSOSI]
BB-11. 300kt, J2G2. Sylean Federation Federation-class Battleship from Long Night. No intact examples lasted beyond the Civil War. [FSOSI]
BB-12. 300kt, J3G3. Upgrade of BB-11 to Imperium-class and renown as "mothership" of Third Imperium in use during reign of Cleon I through the Pacification Campaigns and until the Vargr Campaigns. Many rotated to reserve fleets or member worlds and more than a few converted to museums or monuments to the early wars of the Third Imperium. Cleon's personal flagship was kept in vintage condition until it was destroyed in the Civil War when one of the Barrack's Emperors claimed it and used it as his flagship. [FSOSI]
BB-13. 300kt, J3G3. Imperator-class early Third Imperium upgrade of the BB-12 and main capital ship through Civil War. Hybrid TL/spinal/weapons upgrades of the original Sylean Fed battleship. Very few remaining in service as of Rebellion and those almost entirely in Depot reserve fleets. Most were decommissioned and destroyed in weapons testings though a couple museum ships were preserved in the Sylean Federation. [FSOSI]
BI-13. 700kt, J4G4. Original Basileus-class designed as supership . Intended to replace BB-13/BB-12, but due to the enormous costs most sectors never saw more than one or two BatRons. Served through Third Frontier War. Most were upgraded/refitted to BI-14 though a few isolated examples remain in service toward the Imperial Core, where a few high nobles/admirals strut around in these due to high sentimental value. Mostly archaic though still can serve certain roles well enough if not as comfortably by its crew. None remained behind the Claw. [FSOSI]
BL-13 lite. 200kt, J3G2. Voroshilief-class. Cost effective alternative to completely replacing BB-12 with BI-13. Retired to Depot mothball fleets by end of Civil War, where they did not perform well (and were replaced with the BT/R-14 system), though more than a few were found and reactivated in the Hard Times.[Rebellion SB, BR, FSOSI]
BT/R-14 std. 700k/880k J3G2/!JG5 Triumph-class Tender with 6x Gallant-class Riders to replace BB-13 in face of design failures of Voroshilief. Primary Imperial capital ship of the Solomani Rim War. Many transferred to Depot reserve fleets until they were called up in high numbers as the BT/R-15 were decimated in the carnage of the Rebellion. [BR, FSOSI]
BI-14 dread. 700kt, J4G5. Kaiser-class refit/upgrade of BI-13. Most BatRon were sent to the Depot mothball fleets, though a few were decomissioned to museum ships and/or destroyed in weapons testing. One functional ship kept at Depot/Deneb, which was reactivated and used as Norris' flagship during the Rebellion, cannibilizing the rest of the squadron for repair parts. Rest of the BatRon restored for service in the Quarantine during the Regency and Arrival Vengeance took the place as Norris' flagship. [FSOSI]
BL-14 lite. 200kt, J4G5. Original Kokirrak and main battleship of late TL14 Third Imperium [FSOSI, Conjecture]
BH-14 heavy. 500kt J4G5 - Panthera-class. Similar to later Tigress but without the fighter complement and a much smaller rear superstructure. Not as widely procured and more of a doctrine test platform based on lessons learned from BI-13 and BB-13, though several BatRon were completed and kept as a reaction force for the Emperor to send from Capital or Depot/Core. The Pantheras had weapons and systems upgraded and were largely test beds for the evolution of the TL15 Tigress. These hybrid Panthera BatRons remained in service in Lucan's Imperium through the Rebellion. [FSOSI]
BT/R-15 std. 700k/900k dton J3G2/!JG6 - Cleon-class Tender with 4x Admiral-class 50k dton Riders. Primary capital ship of the Third Imperium through the Rebellion though suffered the most severe casualties, particularly in the fighting between Dulinor and Lucan. [BR, FSOSI]
BTL/RL-15 light. 400k/540k dt Lurenti-class Tender with 7x Nolikian-class 20k dton Riders. Fleet doctrine test of light battle-riders and a more cost effective tender. Mostly seen on the periphery of the Third Imperium as a cheaper alternative to the BT/R-15. [Spinward Marches Campaign]
BI-15 dread. 700kdt, J3G6. New Sylea-class design as Domain command ship replacing the Kokirrak for use of highest nobles (Archdukes and/or Domain Grand Admirals). None in Marches/DoD/Regency. Dulinor's flagship Clarion is the most famous example in Imperial history [BR, FSOSI]
BL-15 lite. 200kdt, J4G6 Kokirrak-class and refit/upgrade of BL-14 though not widely procured [S9, FSOSI]
BM-15 missile. 200kdt J4G5. Early TL15 Plankwell-class and main battleship of TL15 Third Imperium [S9, FSOSI]
BH-15 heavy. 500kdt, J4G6. Tigress-class mature TL15 intended to replace both Kokirrak and Plankwells. Much more widespread than any other ship of it's size throughout the Imperium, even making it to the Solomani Rim and Spinward Marches, though not procured in quantities than the Plankwell before the Rebellion [S9, FSOSI]
BZ-15 proto. 700/850kdt J4G6. Prototypes-built to Sylea-class chassis and carrying 3x 50k dton Admiral battle-riders though the first prototype also demonstrated BT/R-14 30k dton Gallant's. [FSOSI]
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