Scans...maybe fair use
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Icosahedron
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Sounds like a fair exchange to me.
Beats me why FFE and SJG haven't invoked 'fan participation' to produce PDFs of popular oldies before - saves a lot of 'we haven't got the manpower'. All they need to do then is proofread it. It's not like back in the seventies when you needed professional lithograpic machines to prepare stuff. These days anyone can produce good quality PDFs in their home and send the stuff out. It can't offend copyright if it's being done on behalf of the copyright holder.
Beats me why FFE and SJG haven't invoked 'fan participation' to produce PDFs of popular oldies before - saves a lot of 'we haven't got the manpower'. All they need to do then is proofread it. It's not like back in the seventies when you needed professional lithograpic machines to prepare stuff. These days anyone can produce good quality PDFs in their home and send the stuff out. It can't offend copyright if it's being done on behalf of the copyright holder.
far-trader
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Now I'm wishing I'd said this when I first saw the post.
If you're pretty sure it violates fair use policy (and I'd say it does clearly) and you are prepared to get Marc's go ahead, why not go that route? And avoid posting here encouraging (and succeeding) in getting others to violate the generous fair use policy for you. Others have gotten well deserved warnings for similar requests. What makes this different?
far-trader
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IF Marc wants good scans it's up to him to ask for them and provide a legit place to send them. While I agree the CDs could do with fixing, and it looks like that is in the works through DonM fronting for Marc, it's not something anyone can just start up on their own.
I think you're reading farther down on that list Marc gave me, but I'm taking the requests one at a time, and he gave first priority to people who paid for the BFB reprints.
But YES, since it does violate fair use, ask Marc.
Oh, cc me on that; also, explain you posted about this on CoTI, and I recommended you e-mail him.
But YES, since it does violate fair use, ask Marc.
Oh, cc me on that; also, explain you posted about this on CoTI, and I recommended you e-mail him.
Andrew Boulton
The Adminator
It's only the cover, so I think it would be fair use. Especially if you already own the CD.
Rhialto the Marvelous
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If I were Roger Sanger, I'd snatch the DGP scans that are floating about on teh web and put them up on rpgnow. They'd sell like hotcakes.
IIRC, that's what WOTC (or even Marc, come to think of it?) did with pirated scans (a cover image?) of some old TSR product or other.
IIRC, that's what WOTC (or even Marc, come to think of it?) did with pirated scans (a cover image?) of some old TSR product or other.
Gruffty
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Yes, the copy of AotI on the CT CRDOM is a pirate scan by someone calling themselves "Kritter" (according to the stamp on the back cover image in the pdf).
I have a very good copy of AotI, with nice covers. I'd be willing to scan the cover and send or put up (at a URL) the files for Marc to use. But I'd need an email from him giving me the OK to do it first.
I have a very good copy of AotI, with nice covers. I'd be willing to scan the cover and send or put up (at a URL) the files for Marc to use. But I'd need an email from him giving me the OK to do it first.
I would ask for links but that may violate fair use...
Too bad 'cause I'd like to see them.
I would ask for links but that may violate fair use...
Too bad 'cause I'd like to see them.
Me, too!
:alpha:But RS can't put them up on DTRPG even if he wanted to... it would violate Marc's Trademarks.
Rhialto the Marvelous
SOC-13
It is said that a scan of a full set of the Traveller's Digest and of MT Journal has been seen on eMule.
Me, I wouldn't know.
Me, I wouldn't know.
Aahh, finally, a use for eMule....
Maladominus
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Now this got me thinking. How about the following hypothetical, would this be fair use if...
#1) I own/purchased a hard copy of a GDW product (those property that still belong to MWM)
and
#2) I copied small parts/sections of it for graphic/visual aid distribution for my private inner gaming circle (i.e. my own players only, and no one else). Strictly for gaming use as an aid.
Fair or not fair?
#1) I own/purchased a hard copy of a GDW product (those property that still belong to MWM)
and
#2) I copied small parts/sections of it for graphic/visual aid distribution for my private inner gaming circle (i.e. my own players only, and no one else). Strictly for gaming use as an aid.
Fair or not fair?
far-trader
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Not fair use. But who's to know you did it anyway? It's fine even without fair use to prepare materials for your game session, as long as they stay in your possession.
Go read the Fair Use everybody (in the FAQs iirc). I think it's pretty straight forward. It's not a license to copy and distribute.
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far-trader
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So I take it eMule is some peer-to-peer pirate racket? Simply mentioning such here is against the rules and could get you booted. Likewise supporting such, even in jest.
far-trader
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I would ask for links but that may violate fair use...
It would indeed. And a few laws too.
chshrkt
SOC-12
Hmm,
I did indeed read the FAQ for FFE and found this:
It sounds like copying select bits and pieces for your gaming session is just fine if you define "some project" as a gaming session...
far-trader
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I guess you could at that
I'd never thought of a "project" being a game session (or vice-versa). Partly because I figured who's to know what goes on at my game table between me and the players, right?
And I'd always taken "project" to mean a publicly posted work or discussion (I think I got that from somewhere in the Fair Use policy, using a paragraph or two, no more than a page, in a discussion being allowed).
