Space Battleship Yamato ... the movie ... live action

[sabredog]

I wonder if Space Battleship Bismarck would have gone over any better?

The big swastika painted on her bow for aircraft recognition would prevent international distribution.

And she was puny, just a pocket battleship - especially compared to the Yamato and Musashi.

And the Japanese seemed to have cornered the market on giant robot/space battleship/general weirdness-in-space right now. Not that that's a bad thing - they do a darn good job at it. Live action Cowboy BeBop or Ghost In The Shell, anyone?

 

[Dragoner]

I wonder if Space Battleship Bismarck would have gone over any better?

German speaking countries have Perry Rhodan. Though the Bismark would not have excited too many kids; now if they had some space "panzer-waffe" and tied it in with roco minitanks, we would have loved it until our parents burned down the studio...:rofl:

 

[sabredog]

Though the Bismark would not have excited too many kids

You're right - Bismark would've gone over like a lead zeppelin....and the zombie genre is already flooded with undead legions of Nazi zombies so that's good enough.

But we can always use more Robotech n' stuff.

 

[BillDowns]

I wonder if Space Battleship Bismarck would have gone over any better?

I would still have the same difficulty. If the is desired, that's fine - I'm cool with that. But actually resurrecting one of these ancients, that's just too stupid for me.

And she was puny, just a pocket battleship - especially compared to the Yamato and Musashi.

The Bismarck was 41,000 tons or so standard displacement with very thick armor. He (German ships are male) was not a pocket battleship, and was larger than any Japanese battleship in 1941.

 

[Blue Ghost]

Well, it is a kids' cartoon. Me, I think Scooby-do is one of the most brainless cartoons ever conceived. It ranks up there with "The Bugaloos", H.R Puff-n-stuff, and other 1970's morning kids' fare. But, if some fanboy got all fired up about the live action feature film remake of one of those shows, then I'd shrug at it. It doesn't interest me.

 

[iron warrior]

The yamato from starblazers is what's called a "ninja rocketship" type spacecraft, the term was coined by some anime fhan and used in Mekton Zeta, the anime RPG from RTG.

 

[Enoki]

I still have difficulties getting past the concept of resurrecting a sunken WWII battleship and converting it to a starship.

Sorry......

Especially when it looks like this:

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...ge=3&ndsp=20&ved=1t:429,r:19,s:41&tx=95&ty=76

 

[BillDowns]

:rofl:

 

[saundby]

I wonder if Space Battleship Bismarck would have gone over any better?

You really want to tick off some people, how about "Space Bombers Enola Gay and Bock's Car"? :rofl:

On Yamato, you gotta wonder about a vision of the future where there are amazing technologies and weapons available, but production capability is so poor you've got to pull broken old ships off the sea floor to build a new spacecraft. Granted for the sake of the kid's show it's all about having a sort of emotional symbol, but c'mon--the future has superweapons but no steel mills?

The painful thing is that I can think of real-world analogies. Back before the Constellation program got started, there was serious discussion of pulling the old Apollo capsules out of the museums and refitting them for launch on the Atlas V and Delta IV...

 

[aramis]

You really want to tick off some people, how about "Space Bombers Enola Gay and Bock's Car"? :rofl:

See also the movie "Heavy Metal"....

 

[sabredog]

Or the opening credits of The Watchmen...

 

[Rraurgrimm]

He (German ships are male) was not a pocket battleship, and was larger than any Japanese battleship in 1941.

Sorry to correct You there but German ships are either neutral (if You are referring to a class of ship, even in combination with the name) - or female if You are referring to her by name only. "Die Bismarck" - female pronoun. "Das Schlachtschiff Bismarck" (the battleship Bismarck) - neutral pronoun.

The Bismarck had around 50,000 tonnes full load, 41,700 tonnes according to the construction plans but many changes were made to the general structure - slightly smaller than the Iowa class battleships (which were even more modern in their construction but with a different naval strategy in mind) and closer to the North Carolina class albeit again with a different role, constructed for limited engagement with other battleships and trade interdiction instead of fleet/carrier screening duty and shore bombardment in mind. The Yamato was formally commissioned in December 1941 with 71,659 tonnes full load, she was launched by August 1940. So yes, she (the Bismarck) arguably was the largest and comparatively modern battleship in active service at her time.

 

[BillDowns]

Sorry to correct You there but German ships are either neutral (if You are referring to a class of ship, even in combination with the name) - or female if You are referring to her by name only. "Die Bismarck" - female pronoun. "Das Schlachtschiff Bismarck" (the battleship Bismarck) - neutral pronoun.

No apologies necessary from you - just from me

Somewhere a long time ago, I had heard that, but I don't speak German, so looks like I was incorrect.

 

[Jame]

'cuz it follows the Rule of Cool.

You could ask the same thing of giant morphing robot/starfighters in Robotech.

I never thought much of those either. You should be either a starfighter or a battlemech, not both.

 

[sabredog]

I agree, I mean, why is it the missile/plasma gun firing fighters morph into energy sword-wielding giant robots....and are even more effective that way than as a fighter?

Oh well, its still fun after all these years since I now watch them with my kids. And I guess if I can suspend enough disbelief to play and run RPG's I suppose I ought to be able to do that for Yamato and Robotech.

 

[mbrinkhues]

No apologies necessary from you - just from me

Somewhere a long time ago, I had heard that, but I don't speak German, so looks like I was incorrect.

Actually the Navy (not general german language) used DER (male) for some ships. Naval speak had Der Prinz Eugen (but Die Blücher), Der Bismark (but Die Tirpitz). That was due to the history of the ships name/namegiver.

From memory the male ships where

Bismark
Scheer
Prinz Eugen
Hipper

Battleship H(Hindenburg) would have likely been a male

 

[BloatedBlowfish]

For me personally, I could care less about the politics or the scientific theory, or even the choice that was made to use Yamato. I grew up watching this series, and it fueled my imagination like no other.

It still does, and that is why I for one am looking forward with joy to this movie.

Cheers,

 

[Blue Ghost]

For me personally, I could care less about the politics or the scientific theory, or even the choice that was made to use Yamato. I grew up watching this series, and it fueled my imagination like no other.

It still does, and that is why I for one am looking forward with joy to this movie.

Cheers,

High five

 

[Rraurgrimm]

Actually the Navy (not general german language) used DER (male) for some ships. Naval speak had Der Prinz Eugen (but Die Blücher), Der Bismark (but Die Tirpitz). That was due to the history of the ships name/namegiver.

From memory the male ships where

Bismark
Scheer
Prinz Eugen
Hipper

Battleship H(Hindenburg) would have likely been a male

*coughs quietly* I fear You may have been misinformed there - I have read quite a bit about German naval history and the only ones who tried to stick to the male pronoun were the ones of the Austria-Hungarian Navy when the original bearer of the name was male. Common language - especially of those serving aboard the ships - did use the female pronoun, the only instances in which male pronouns were used in reference to battleships were in literature as some right-wing writers (and not even all of them, either) thought it would be an 'anglicism' to use a female pronoun for such a mighty, 'obviously male' object.

But I think we keep getting away from the subject, don't we?