far-trader
SOC-14 10K
...Now if someone can work out a suitable tournament 2-player campaign scenario while I run these games....
Hey! I might be a someone
You want ideas emailed or posted in thread for hashing out?
2009 PBEM Trillion Credit Squadron Tournament
- Thread starter Jeffr0
- Start date
Hey! I might be a someone
You want ideas emailed or posted in thread for hashing out?
far-trader
SOC-14 10K
The Billion Credit Squadron write up is here:
http://jeffro.wordpress.com/2009/03...credit-squadron-round-robin-tournament-notes/
Here are the games and their outcomes:
The Games
-----------------------------------------------------
Game 1: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 2: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 3: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs Skyth (Aristina)
Game 4: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs far-trader (Bad Wolf)
Game 5: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 6: OIT (Sloepigg) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 7: OIT (Sloepigg) vs Skyth (Aristina)
Game 8: OIT (Sloepigg) vs far-trader (Bad Wolf)
Game 9: OIT (Sloepigg) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 10: Skyth (Aristina) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 11: Skyth (Aristina) vs far-trader (Bad Wolf)
Game 12: Skyth (Aristina) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 13: far-trader (Bad Wolf) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 14: far-trader (Bad Wolf) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 15: BillDowns (Polaris) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Outcomes
-----------------------------------------------------
Game 1: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 2: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 3: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 4: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 5: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 6: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 7: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 8: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 9: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 10: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 11: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 12: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 13: BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 14: Stalemate
Game 15: Stalemate
The last two games are called "stalemates" because the ships involved had low to-hit rolls and (generally) decent defenses. No side had any significant advantage... and the players were not particularly attached to their designs... SO it was agreed that we would just move on and that it would be more fun to run a different scenario with improved designs.
I did make some mistakes in running the games, though in most cases they were caught fairly quickly and had no impact on the outcome of the games. One player did not seem to be aware of the HE vs. Nuclear missile option in the rules.... (!!)
I hope that the design notes are useful to players gearing up for the 10 BCr tournament that starts next month!
http://jeffro.wordpress.com/2009/03...credit-squadron-round-robin-tournament-notes/
Here are the games and their outcomes:
The Games
-----------------------------------------------------
Game 1: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 2: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 3: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs Skyth (Aristina)
Game 4: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs far-trader (Bad Wolf)
Game 5: Ron Gianti (Dagger) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 6: OIT (Sloepigg) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 7: OIT (Sloepigg) vs Skyth (Aristina)
Game 8: OIT (Sloepigg) vs far-trader (Bad Wolf)
Game 9: OIT (Sloepigg) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 10: Skyth (Aristina) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 11: Skyth (Aristina) vs far-trader (Bad Wolf)
Game 12: Skyth (Aristina) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 13: far-trader (Bad Wolf) vs BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 14: far-trader (Bad Wolf) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Game 15: BillDowns (Polaris) vs Weaver (Strategist-D)
Outcomes
-----------------------------------------------------
Game 1: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 2: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 3: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 4: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 5: Ron Gianti (Dagger)
Game 6: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 7: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 8: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 9: OIT (Sloepigg)
Game 10: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 11: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 12: Skyth (Aristina)
Game 13: BillDowns (Polaris)
Game 14: Stalemate
Game 15: Stalemate
The last two games are called "stalemates" because the ships involved had low to-hit rolls and (generally) decent defenses. No side had any significant advantage... and the players were not particularly attached to their designs... SO it was agreed that we would just move on and that it would be more fun to run a different scenario with improved designs.
I did make some mistakes in running the games, though in most cases they were caught fairly quickly and had no impact on the outcome of the games. One player did not seem to be aware of the HE vs. Nuclear missile option in the rules.... (!!)
I hope that the design notes are useful to players gearing up for the 10 BCr tournament that starts next month!
Post Facto
Post-facto contribution for posterity.
Mass Attack approach, 2x1kt ships (/4 computers tho eek!) for the 1BCr:
2x
Ship: Carved
Class: Carved
Type: Planetoid Escort (Carved)
Architect: AM
USP
PE-A833342-300000-00009-0 MCr 530.000 1 KTons
Bat Bear 1 Crew: 12
Bat 1 TL: 12
Cargo: 42.000 Fuel: 350.000 EP: 30.000 Agility: 2
Craft: 1 x 50T Fueler
Architects Fee: MCr 5.300 Cost in Quantity: MCr 424.000
20t extra fuel beyond J3/28d (2 fuel hits). boat pilot of 1 in crew.
Idea is rather than a rumbly rock, looks more "ship like" by a carved exterior, which also allows for more tailored thicknesses in desired sections, just a personal YMMV preference of mine, also by A3 20% planetoid vs A4 20% TL7-9 "standard" armor, hence "carved", also allows for great "expression" in hull exterior aesthetics <s>.
2x
Ship: 50FuelerTLB
Class: 50FuelerTLB
Type: 50FuelerTLB
Architect: AM
USP
FB-0603301-000000-00000-0 MCr 22.050 50 Tons
Bat Bear Crew: 1
Bat TL: 11
Cargo: 0.000 Fuel: 35.500 EP: 1.500 Agility: 3
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops
Architects Fee: MCr 0.221 Cost in Quantity: MCr 17.640
Post-facto contribution for posterity.
Mass Attack approach, 2x1kt ships (/4 computers tho eek!) for the 1BCr:
2x
Ship: Carved
Class: Carved
Type: Planetoid Escort (Carved)
Architect: AM
USP
PE-A833342-300000-00009-0 MCr 530.000 1 KTons
Bat Bear 1 Crew: 12
Bat 1 TL: 12
Cargo: 42.000 Fuel: 350.000 EP: 30.000 Agility: 2
Craft: 1 x 50T Fueler
Architects Fee: MCr 5.300 Cost in Quantity: MCr 424.000
20t extra fuel beyond J3/28d (2 fuel hits). boat pilot of 1 in crew.
Idea is rather than a rumbly rock, looks more "ship like" by a carved exterior, which also allows for more tailored thicknesses in desired sections, just a personal YMMV preference of mine, also by A3 20% planetoid vs A4 20% TL7-9 "standard" armor, hence "carved", also allows for great "expression" in hull exterior aesthetics <s>.
2x
Ship: 50FuelerTLB
Class: 50FuelerTLB
Type: 50FuelerTLB
Architect: AM
USP
FB-0603301-000000-00000-0 MCr 22.050 50 Tons
Bat Bear Crew: 1
Bat TL: 11
Cargo: 0.000 Fuel: 35.500 EP: 1.500 Agility: 3
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops
Architects Fee: MCr 0.221 Cost in Quantity: MCr 17.640
Post facto 2
Designed in reponse to the (then posted) Aristina. Big, slow, vulnerable to them 100t missile bays (eek!)
Ship: RiposteM
Class: RiposteM
Type: Frontier Destroyer
Architect: AM
USP
DF-A433362-250000-00005-0 MCr 908.261 1.4 KTons
Bat Bear 1 2 Crew: 70
Bat 1 2 TL: 12
Cargo: 22.000 Passengers: 1 Frozen Watch (x2) Low: 8 Fuel: 602.000 EP: 42.000 Agility: 2 Shipboard Security Detail: 1 Marines: 41
Craft: 2 x 50T Cutter
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops and On Board Fuel Purification
Architects Fee: MCr 9.083 Cost in Quantity: MCr 726.609
2x
Ship: 001A
Class: Modular Cutter Armed
Type: Cutter Armed
Architect: CT var
USP
QY-0204421-020000-00001-0 MCr 45.360 50 Tons
Bat Bear 1 1 1 Crew: 1
Bat 1 1 1 TL: 9
Cargo: 1.500 Fuel: 2.000 EP: 2.000 Agility: 2
Craft: 1 x 30T Module
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops
Architects Fee: MCr 0.454 Cost in Quantity: MCr 36.288
Designed in reponse to the (then posted) Aristina. Big, slow, vulnerable to them 100t missile bays (eek!)
Ship: RiposteM
Class: RiposteM
Type: Frontier Destroyer
Architect: AM
USP
DF-A433362-250000-00005-0 MCr 908.261 1.4 KTons
Bat Bear 1 2 Crew: 70
Bat 1 2 TL: 12
Cargo: 22.000 Passengers: 1 Frozen Watch (x2) Low: 8 Fuel: 602.000 EP: 42.000 Agility: 2 Shipboard Security Detail: 1 Marines: 41
Craft: 2 x 50T Cutter
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops and On Board Fuel Purification
Architects Fee: MCr 9.083 Cost in Quantity: MCr 726.609
2x
Ship: 001A
Class: Modular Cutter Armed
Type: Cutter Armed
Architect: CT var
USP
QY-0204421-020000-00001-0 MCr 45.360 50 Tons
Bat Bear 1 1 1 Crew: 1
Bat 1 1 1 TL: 9
Cargo: 1.500 Fuel: 2.000 EP: 2.000 Agility: 2
Craft: 1 x 30T Module
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops
Architects Fee: MCr 0.454 Cost in Quantity: MCr 36.288
Post facto 3
A big slow attempt maximizing defense, after seeing the write up of them missile bay jobbers (Dagger IV & Sloepigg) Also kept 120t cargo, this one is lacking the carried cutters to fit into the 1BCr cap, but is partial stream so ok for GG refuel. Is a single occupancy (crew could be doubled say additional 35 marines), sort of a semi-military idea, some cargo, possible passengers, frozen watch to low passengers, etc. Maybe even nukeless missiles for interior of Imperium legality. Both this and the Riposte have fuel for J4, allowing a jump 3 in and still have J1 fuel to lose as fuel hits, also lets em cruise at J2x2 along say X-Boat/trade routes.
Ship: REPO
Class: REPO
Type: REPO
Architect: AM
USP
RE-A4333F2-000006-00005-0 MCr 986.872 1.6 KTons
Bat Bear 1 1 Crew: 35
Bat 1 1 TL: 12
Cargo: 120.000 Frozen Watch Low: 8 Fuel: 688.000 EP: 48.000 Agility: 2 Shipboard Security Detail: 2 Marines: 4
Craft: 2 x 50T Cutter
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops and On Board Fuel Purification
Architects Fee: MCr 9.869 Cost in Quantity: MCr 789.498
A big slow attempt maximizing defense, after seeing the write up of them missile bay jobbers (Dagger IV & Sloepigg) Also kept 120t cargo, this one is lacking the carried cutters to fit into the 1BCr cap, but is partial stream so ok for GG refuel. Is a single occupancy (crew could be doubled say additional 35 marines), sort of a semi-military idea, some cargo, possible passengers, frozen watch to low passengers, etc. Maybe even nukeless missiles for interior of Imperium legality. Both this and the Riposte have fuel for J4, allowing a jump 3 in and still have J1 fuel to lose as fuel hits, also lets em cruise at J2x2 along say X-Boat/trade routes.
Ship: REPO
Class: REPO
Type: REPO
Architect: AM
USP
RE-A4333F2-000006-00005-0 MCr 986.872 1.6 KTons
Bat Bear 1 1 Crew: 35
Bat 1 1 TL: 12
Cargo: 120.000 Frozen Watch Low: 8 Fuel: 688.000 EP: 48.000 Agility: 2 Shipboard Security Detail: 2 Marines: 4
Craft: 2 x 50T Cutter
Fuel Treatment: Fuel Scoops and On Board Fuel Purification
Architects Fee: MCr 9.869 Cost in Quantity: MCr 789.498
This needs 10's to hit my Aristinas at long (11 at short) Pen Sand on 4's. My Aristinas hit on 8's (Pen sand on 7) and send out twice as many shots. My shots hurt worse also as I carry more armor. The cutters are negligible (Factor 1 missile from a 2 computer means it hits on a 16...Impossible)
A win for the Aristinas is almost a forgone conclusion in this matchup.
F
Fersboo
Guest
My apologies, but I'm a bit tied up with a new Pocket Empires campaign and have one Battletech campaign running and a BT project also, so between that for my time and then work and family I don't think I'm going to be able to actively participate in the Billion Credit competition. I'd like to lurck and ask questions occassionally if that is alright.
Similar threads
