A Consolidated Errata list

[kmsoice]

Can someone help me out here?

In my original draft of the errata which I did many, many years ago there are several entries which I cannot currently track down the source for so I did not include them in the current edition. Things like changing the amour value of the Kafer carapace from 0.8 to 0.3. It is not like me to write house rules in with the errata, but I am not sure, I do not remember. I searched the web and found some fragmentary indication that a sheet of errata was included with the 2300AD boxed set (to be clear, a separate errata sheet from the errata which came with Star Cruiser). If there was a 2300AD only errata sheet I long ago lost it. If it exists and someone has it on file could they send it to me at kelvinsoice@hotmail.com and help me fix a gaping hole in my claim to be making a ‘Consolidated Errata’ document?

Also, there is a smudge on my copy of pg 52 of the Adventure’s Guide but it looks like the Initiative Penalty for Chainmail is listed as ‘1’ instead of ‘-1’. Can someone confirm?

Thankyou!

 

[shaunhilburn]

Also, there is a smudge on my copy of pg 52 of the Adventure’s Guide but it looks like the Initiative Penalty for Chainmail is listed as ‘1’ instead of ‘-1’. Can someone confirm?

Confirmed. In both editions.

 

[kmsoice]

Ping!

This is to let everyone know that I have substantially updated and expanded the file that I have been creating on a consolidated errata list for GDW’s products on 2300 AD and Star Cruiser. You can find the updated file at the same website.
http://www.geocities.com/kelvinsoice/2300AD/Consolidated_Errata.htm
or a pdf version at
http://www.geocitie s.com/kelvinsoice/2300AD/Consolidated_ Errata.pdf

As always still I see this as being very much a `work in progress' so please review the file and e-mail me with any changes, additions and corrections. I have tried to limit the errata in this document to clear typos, miscalculations and errors (sometimes by omission) in the published GDW 2300AD products. I have tried to avoid those which could be considered `revisions to make the game more realistic' as I have noticed that such discussions tend to get quickly, and profitlessly, out of control

 

[shaunhilburn]

I have tried to limit the errata in this document to clear typos, miscalculations and errors (sometimes by omission) in the published GDW 2300AD products.

How about this:

"The resuscitation deadline for 'killed' characters should be 6 minutes, not 60 minutes."

 

[kmsoice]

How about this:

"The resuscitation deadline for 'killed' characters should be 6 minutes, not 60 minutes."

Thankyou! This is what I was looking for! But I should add please include the location of where the error is i.e. in this case the Directors Guide, pg 52 WOUNDS AND RECOVERY->Resuscitation

 

[shaunhilburn]

I have tried to limit the errata in this document to clear typos, miscalculations and errors (sometimes by omission) in the published GDW 2300AD products.

Error of omission:

DPV is doubled at close range and halved at long range - due to atmospheric drag.
Isaac Newton says "In a vacuum, DPV is doubled in all range bands."

 

[shaunhilburn]

DPV is doubled at close range and halved at long range - due to atmospheric drag.
Isaac Newton says "In a vacuum, DPV is doubled in all range bands."

Let me hastily add that this only applies to projectiles (gauss weapons, firearms, crossbows, micrometeoroids), not things like blunt instruments or spear thrusts.

Lasers have a double/half falloff in vacuum due to beam spread. Plasma guns won't work in a vacuum based on the operating principle - blasting a tunnel through air for the plasma beam, though the the tunneling beam can probably still inflict some damage.

 

[aramis]

Plasma Skin effect still applies (essentially a form of surface tension), and the tunnel is simply to allow the beam to not smash air... should work relatively well at close ranges.

 

[kmsoice]

Ping!

I have fiddled, fussed, puttered and polished the file that I have been creating on a consolidated errata list for the 23XX universe! You can find the updated file at the same website.
http://www.geocities.com/kelvinsoice/2300AD/Consolidated_Errata.htm
or a pdf version at
http://www.geocities.com/kelvinsoice/2300AD/Consolidated_Errata.pdf

As always still I see this as being very much a `work in progress' so please review the file and e-mail me with any changes, additions and corrections at kelvinsoice@hotmail.com. I have tried to limit the errata in this document to the clear typos, miscalculations and errors, sometimes by omission. I have, mostly, tried to avoid those which could be considered `revisions to make the game more realistic' , if we are still arguing about it 20 years on I am not really going to try and settle it here.

P.S. Thankyou 'Deniable' for providing me with the official 'Traveller: 2300' errata!

 

[DonM]

How "non-house rules" is this consolidated errata for 2300AD?

I'm asking because if this is clean enough, I'd like to hook you up with Marc and see if we can use this on the new version of the CD-ROM?

I'm not scared of errata (I did the consolidated errata for MT!), but I think that if there's going to be an updated CD-ROM, the errata should be updated as well...

 

[kmsoice]

How "non-house rules" is this consolidated errata for 2300AD?

I have tried hard to be respectful of cannon and limit what is in my opinion 'house rules'. About 5% could be considered 'house rules' and all of those are in a separate section at the bottom titled 'Alternate Rules'. Same with the errata for the 2320 game which you might not want included. About 1/3 of everything in there is official, published by GDW errata, not just what came included with the boxes but what GDW printed in more obscure places like the magazine 'Traveller's Digest'. Whenever possible I have tried to list the source for an entry so people can judge for themselves it's reliability. The official published errata from GDW are set apart in bold type.

I'm asking because if this is clean enough, I'd like to hook you up with Marc and see if we can use this on the new version of the CD-ROM?

I would be thrilled beyond all measure to be making an actual contribution to the cause! Who would have thought that my personality flaws could be useful after all?! Any help I could render just let me know. What is mine is yours!

To everyone else out there keeping track I have two points. 1) I have just polished up the file a bit more and uploaded it. Not much change in the content but it does look much cleaner and more presentable now. 2) If this is going to get published then I really do need the help of everyone out there looking at the books, finding the mistakes no matter how small and letting me know!

 

[DonM]

kmsoice: contact me off-list at don.mckinney@gmail.com.

anyone else: is the concensus here that kmsoice's doc is the best 2300AD errata available?

Also, I'm just interested in 2300AD; 2320 is a QLI product, but 2300AD is a FFE product, and Marc's put that in my pile

Anyway... I would like some additional opinions, and if there is a concensus that this is the best, I'll see about getting a sticky here for this thread too.

Thanks in advance...

 

[kmsoice]

Updated Version! v2009/07/11

Still working on this project, still indulging my pedantic character flaw .

I have updated the files on my website with the new version ( v2009/07/11 ), not many changes but enough to make it worthwhile. In light of the news that Yahoo! is going to be closing Geocities in a few months I have also uploaded the file to the CotI website under CotI File Library->Miscellaneous->Errata for 2300AD and a big THANKYOU! to DonM and Marc Miller for agreeing to keep a copy on the Far Future website. *

As always I see this as being very much a `work in progress' so please review the file and e-mail me with any changes, additions and corrections at kelvinsoice@hotmail.com no matter how small. ** I should point out that I do not currently have the Vehicle Guide, Deathwatch Program, Earth/Cybertech Sourcebook or Traveller 2300AD so I am completely dependant upon others for finding errata in those items.

* Do not know how long it will take them to update the website, so be sure to check that you get the new version 20090711 and not the old version, 20081016.
**Except for inconsistent indentations of the bullets in my file. I already know about those. Believe me, I know!

 

[DonM]

It's up at the FFE errata page.

 

[kmsoice]

I need someone with Traveller 2300 to help me.

On the CotI File library area a member by the name of Strun left me this message

This is going from ancient memories, my books are in the basement, so some of it could be wrong:

I recall missing stats on a weapon pictured in Traveller 2300. Inside one of the covers were pictures of weapons with names. If I recall correctly, I'm wanting to think it was a Russian weapon (perhaps from its name?). It was rather large and I recall myself statting it out as an automatic rifle / light machinegun like the BAR or SAW/Minimi.

Was there any official release of stats for this weapon? It didn't show up in 2300 AD at all if my memory is correct. Only a name and picture in Traveller 2300.

Thanks for doing this by the way.

Can anyone help me? I do not have Traveller 2300 (anymore), all I know is that I do not think I have ever seen anything about this.

 

[epicenter00]

In the first edition of 2300 ("Traveller: 2300") there was a large Russian weapon pictured on the inside cover referred to as the "RPV" or something. The original rules never had any stats for the weapon. I don't think any other edition has ever had stats for the weapon either - it might have been printed in Challenge magazine or something - I don't know, I never really bought too many Challenges. It would have been a light autogun class - being a large weapon fed from a 200-round cannister.

Similarly, the German SK-19 assault rifle was entirely dropped between First Edition (Traveller: 2300) and Second Edition (2300AD: Man's Battle For The Stars). Unfortunately, certain supplements refer to the SK-19 still, like the M-5 assault rifle in "Mission: Arcturus" refers to the SK-19 (IIRC), but game owners of just Second Edition wouldn't know what the SK-19 is. Again, I can't say why the SK-19 was dropped, it's just omitted (I theorize because it was too effective compared to the FAM-90 - carnage-generating autofire without a DPV drop, woohoo!).

 

[TheKiwi]

When I did my Millennium's End conversion for 2300, I made up some stuff about that machine gun, but there was never any mention of it in either Traveller:2300 or 2300AD.

 

[G. Fieendish]

In the first edition of 2300 ("Traveller: 2300") there was a large Russian weapon pictured on the inside cover referred to as the "RPV" or something. The original rules never had any stats for the weapon. I don't think any other edition has ever had stats for the weapon either - it might have been printed in Challenge magazine or something - I don't know, I never really bought too many Challenges. It would have been a light autogun class - being a large weapon fed from a 200-round cannister.

Similarly, the German SK-19 assault rifle was entirely dropped between First Edition (Traveller: 2300) and Second Edition (2300AD: Man's Battle For The Stars). Unfortunately, certain supplements refer to the SK-19 still, like the M-5 assault rifle in "Mission: Arcturus" refers to the SK-19 (IIRC), but game owners of just Second Edition wouldn't know what the SK-19 is. Again, I can't say why the SK-19 was dropped, it's just omitted (I theorize because it was too effective compared to the FAM-90 - carnage-generating autofire without a DPV drop, woohoo!).

Re: The KPV Heavy Machinegun
The KPV is a 14.5mm heavy machine gun, introduced to Warsaw Pact forces, in the early 1950's...
(Note: The 14.5mm round was first used in Russian Anti-Tank rifles, during the 1940's & can pierce 20mm armour plate at 1Km...).
It's been described as not as much a heavy machine gun, but a small autocannon & is generally used as a co-axial/commander's weapon in tanks, a main weapon in scout vehicles such as the BDRM 1 & 2 series, or in quad mounts as a anti aircraft weapon...
The weapon itself weighs some 50kg, & has a fire rate of 600 Rounds/minute, using 50 round belts...
If you want to know more about the KPV, then try this site http://world.guns.ru

 

[Sturn]

....it might have been printed in Challenge magazine or something - I don't know, I never really bought too many Challenges.

I think I have all of the 2300 AD Challenge magazines and it wasn't in any of mine. It also wasn't in the special issue one that covered tons of small arms.

The KPV is a 14.5mm heavy machine gun, introduced to Warsaw Pact forces, in the early 1950's...

He said RPV not KPV. It definitely wasn't anything close to the KPV which is almost an autocannon. This weapon was fictionally over three centuries more modern and appeared to be along the lines of a light machinegun, not the heaviest machinegun known to man.

 

[exeus]

Thanks for the mention

Thanks for mentioning me in your errata document - but here's some errata for your errata. On page 26, for the Near Start List II, it lists me as "Any Brick" ... not "Andy Brick". Hilarity ensued ....

Also, I went into detail (14 years ago, my god!) on Fuel Cells, MHD, water conversion, solar panels and so forth in 2300AD and Star Cruiser in my unfinished Technical Architecture for 2300AD, at http://www.caco.demon.co.uk/2300ad/Contents.html - it's still there, don't how much longer it will be, as I no longer own or use that account. I'll have to upload it somewhere else sometime.

Of course a *lot* has changed since I wrote that document. But the basic physics is still sound.

Anyhow, nice to see 2320AD has been published as a PDF ... may take a look see.

/Andy Brick