Alien Suppliments

[Shonner]

Using second spelling this time... SJGames has people using the word (ca. 1999). Hans needs to write the definitive Aslan book.

ADDED:
I prefer that Aslan (Fteirle whatever) be humanoid that look like Wolverine or Sabertooth. Space werewolves. Or werelions.

 

[GRNDL]

No, not at all. In fact I am kinda confused as to how this idea.

Because of this line in one of your messages: "I don't remember that well, but by then C. J. Cherryh had made them seem more like her Hani, than the Kzinti (who I still haven't read stories of)."

Made it sound like Cherryh had made the Aslan more like her Hani...

Or were you saying that she had finally made her own Hani like the way we accept her Hani nowadays, as opposed to her first attempts (though I'm not sure in which publications those would be, if they're not the Chanur cycle?)

 

[Magnus von Thornwood]

No.

Because of this line in one of your messages: "I don't remember that well, but by then C. J. Cherryh had made them seem more like her Hani, than the Kzinti (who I still haven't read stories of)."

Made it sound like Cherryh had made the Aslan more like her Hani...

Or were you saying that she had finally made her own Hani like the way we accept her Hani nowadays, as opposed to her first attempts (though I'm not sure in which publications those would be, if they're not the Chanur cycle?)

Actually I was saying I use her Hani as my shortcut for OTU's Aslan or more properly the Fteirle.

 

[rancke]

Actually I was saying I use her Hani as my shortcut for OTU's Aslan or more properly the Fteirle.

My dear baron, as a noble of the Imperium, surely you must know better than most that the proper term for our furry landgrabbing neighbors is the Galanglic 'Aslan' rather than the Trokh 'Fteirle'. After all, unless you're part of the PC crowd, what they call themselves is irrelevant to us Imperials. Although I suppose that if you're one of our esteemed Vilani co-Imperials, the Vilani word for them (whatever that may be) would be equally appropriate, provided you're speaking Old High Vilani or one of its descendants.

I have no desire to be a pontificating know-it-all buttinski nor to take you to task for your faux pas in overly harsh and insulting language. But really! I mean, really! I'm surprised at your bend-over-backwards attitude of accomodation to those arrogant supercilious troublemakers! :file_28:


Hans

 

[Magnus von Thornwood]

Come, Citizen, let me buy a beverage.

My dear baron, as a noble of the Imperium, surely you must know better than most that the proper term for our furry landgrabbing neighbors is the Galanglic 'Aslan' rather than the Trokh 'Fteirle'. After all, unless you're part of the PC crowd, what they call themselves is irrelevant to us Imperials. Although I suppose that if you're one of our esteemed Vilani co-Imperials, the Vilani word for them (whatever that may be) would be equally appropriate, provided you're speaking Old High Vilani or one of its descendants.

I have no desire to be a pontificating know-it-all buttinski nor to take you to task for your faux pas in overly harsh and insulting language. But really! I mean, really! I'm surprised at your bend-over-backwards attitude of accomodation to those arrogant supercilious troublemakers! :file_28:


Hans

Yeah, but as an Imperial Noble, I have a duty to play nice with the furry tempers.

 

[GypsyComet]

Although I suppose that if you're one of our esteemed Vilani co-Imperials, the Vilani word for them (whatever that may be) would be equally appropriate, provided you're speaking Old High Vilani or one of its descendants.

The Old High Vilani term would be the general term for "Barbarians We Haven't Met Yet" since the Fteirle emerged during the Long Night.

 

[rancke]

The Old High Vilani term would be the general term for "Barbarians We Haven't Met Yet" since the Fteirle emerged during the Long Night.

Yes, but even Vilani traditionalists would presumably deign to coin a word for a new race they encountered.


Hans

 

[Dagrill]

The Old High Vilani term would be the general term for "Barbarians We Haven't Met Yet" since the Fteirle emerged during the Long Night.

Isn't the Vilani word for Barbarians "Solomani"?

I tend to think of the Aslan, or whatever you prefer to call them, as Japanese Samurai types, or more like the Imperial Japanese of WW2...

Kind Regards

David

 

[Thanos]

None of the Aslan attempts have been perfect.

Perfect compared to what? Shouldn't the 1st one be the template all others are compared to?

 

[aramis]

Perfect compared to what? Shouldn't the 1st one be the template all others are compared to?

That would be the Samurai Lions version in JTAS. So, no. My preference is the MT version, but the CT version is very close.

 

[Thanos]

That would be the Samurai Lions version in JTAS. So, no. My preference is the MT version, but the CT version is very close.

So... if you know, what are the basic differences between versions? Samurai Lions then what...?

 

[GypsyComet]

So... if you know, what are the basic differences between versions? Samurai Lions then what...?

See. I go the other direction. CT's version (both JTAS and AM) shared the broad elements of Japanese warrior culture (clannish, patriarchal, code of honor, dueling) but avoided most of the details.

Then DGP went and added curved swords and topknots.

 

[aramis]

So... if you know, what are the basic differences between versions? Samurai Lions then what...?

Then the Not-quite-lion not-quite-samurai of the CT Alien Module.

Then the slightly less lion slightly more samurai of the MT S&A book.

Then the GT, which I've not read.

Then the Lions but not samurai of MGT....

 

[Nathan Brazil]

I have the CT, DGP, and MtG Aslan books. There are nuance differences in text, yes, but no major overhauls.
Honor, Touchiness, Independence. Check.
Dewclaws. Check.
Gender Based Roles. Check
Males obsession with land. Check.
ihatei. Check.

EXCEPT FOR THE DARNED ARTWORK. GRR!
Calm down.
Sorry.

Might as well give them webbed ears like the Kzin in the Chaosium Ringworld RPG (which I own as well).

 

[tjoneslo]

The GT version of the Aslan follow along the general path of the DPG, not very lion like, less samurai than the CT version. The best thing about the GT version is the art work is dead on.

 

[Frankymole]

Ironically, the Lion model does make a good cultural start, but a lot of civilization is required on top of that, and the best examples are too Japanese. It is an easy slope to fall down, though, as some of the elements of the Aslan already echo the feudal Japanese and are firmly entrenched from CT days.

I always saw them as more akin to the warriors of the Scottish Highland clans...