Alternative Nobility List

[vegas]

I haven't found Hans' system yet but haven't given up the search yet. In case anyone else is searching, I can correct this data point.

I believe Rancke (Hans Rancke-Madsen) put it up on this board in at least one thread, and he also published it a long time ago in an issue of either Dragon Magazine or White Dwarf (I think it was the former - it would hav been an issue from the 1980's).

I found a post from April 1994 on the TML by Hans were he states that his system was written up but was unpublished at that point. Here is the quote from Hans:

I wrote an article suggesting an alternate system of nobility (The Emperor wound up as SL Y; this was not planned, it just worked out that way, but
I was kinda pleased that there would also be an appropiate SL for any rulers of whole galaxies one might encounter). I sent it to Challenge,
but unfortunately it arrived just as they closed their intake of Megatraveller stuff. Sigh... I have a suspicion that they didn't even read it.

So if it was published, it was 1994 or later.

 

[aramis]

I haven't found Hans' system yet but haven't given up the search yet. In case anyone else is searching, I can correct this data point.


I found a post from April 1994 on the TML by Hans were he states that his system was written up but was unpublished at that point. Here is the quote from Hans:

So if it was published, it was 1994 or later.

ISTR it being published in one of the TNE fanzines. Probably Traveller Chronicle.

 

[vegas]

According to the wiki, Traveller Chronicle 9 has an article that could be it.

How Common is Your Noble?

by Hans Rancke

42​

 

[GypsyComet]

I am leaning toward using the Nobility from T5, along with it's seeming decoupling of Soc and nobility.

I'm not sure what you are seeing in T5. The current system echoes the three-lobed nobility first described in MT and expanded on in GURPS Traveller. Only a minority of Nobles "run" worlds or clusters, if that's what you mean. Roughly the same number have other jobs in the Imperial bureaucracy that have a Title attached. The rest are the potential Emperor's Labor Pool, determined by either their own actions or having been born into a family with previously earned Titles.

PC nobles are, by default, either retired from actual noble service (be it "running" some part of the Imperium or as a noble functionary) or were awarded their Honor title on the Birthday or Holiday Lists for an exemplary (but not Noble at the time) career (see the Navy career), or are some younger kid of nobility who can claim a fancy Title but never actually *served* as such (see Lord Peter Wimsey).

 

[Spartan159]

'm not sure what you are seeing in T5.

I'm referring to the C6 nobility list on pg. 55 of T5.10 as compared to the C6 social standing list on the same page. And yeah, my guy is retired from his functionary job and so none of the perks of an active noble other than what his Knighthood provides.

 

[Spartan159]

According to the wiki, Traveller Chronicle 9 has an article that could be it.

Bingo. Not what I saw but close enough. first speed-read was confusing, I'll have to go over it in detail.

 

[whulorigan]

According to the wiki, Traveller Chronicle 9 has an article that could be it.

How Common is Your Noble?

by Hans Rancke

42​

THAT'S IT.

I knew it was published somewhere. Traveller Chronoicle #9, p.42 "How Common is Your Noble?" by Hans Rancke-Madsen.

 

[Mår Ekkertsen]

Just for kicks,

Hmm? What about rulers of none. Adjuncts, ministers, sycophants, etc. All may require noble standing.

 

[MichaelSTee]

n2s, I did mention that "Other functionaries are a level or two below those they serve". This depends on how far "down the line" they are from the ruler.
And please note that I don't refer to strict Noble titles as used in Traveller. MTU doesn't have the same Imperium as OTU; IMTU, a planetary King/Queen of a hi-pop, hi-tech world is more important than a governor of a frontier subsector, even if the King/Queen has no holdings outside their own star system.