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awards for civies

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VT1099ace

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there is a slew of awards for military character to get: MCUF, CR, CCR, etc...

but I noticed there is nothing for 'civilian' carreer...
no traveller version of nobel prises, grammies, peabodies, dicken's (heroic animals in WWII) but how about one for Aliens service to the imperium?...

I was thing of adding some for MGT's events like the way merc. add them for military...

anybody have good names for such awards?
 
Take some of the OTU Knightly Orders, eg. Order of the Arrow and make them Member of the Order of the Arrow or Companion of the Order of the Arrow.


Other typical ones;
Order of Merit
Companion of Honour


and don't forget prizes and laureates.
Imperial Peace Prize
Solomani Prize for Literature.
The Berties, Imperial Academy for Entertainment Arts 4 yearly awards.
 
I have used the following citizenship awards;:


GCA: Good Citizenship Award. Lowest award given.

SEE: Starburst for Extreme Endeavor. Comparable to the SEH, but for an extreme act of citizenship such as developing a cure for cancer, painting a masterpiece along the lines of Rembrandt, founding a colony on an exotic world, saving said colony from disaster, etc.
 
Most of the Imperial level Knighthoods are not specific to area of endeavor. Some are very specific, the Order of the Arrow for example, [btw, how many of you former boy scouts were inducted into the OA? /wave] but there is no substantive difference between an holder of the Order of the Starship and Crown and the Emperor's Guard, save exclusivity (the OEG has 10x the number of OSC).

The racial knighthoods are:
Order of Gvadakoug (Vargr)
Order of Hlyuea (Aslan)
Order of Muan Gwi (Vegans, for what little attention they pay to it)

Below these three are the Archducal Orders (in order of precedence)
Sylea, Vland, Gateway, Illelish, Antares, Sol, and Deneb.

All this from G:T Nobles

Yes, I know, I know, many of you think of GT as non-canon, but you can't go far wrong with Loren Wiseman and John Ziegler. I mean what do ya want, one of the Keith brother to PROVE it to ya? :rofl:
 
I wholeheartedly agree that military characters should not be the only ones that can achieve noteriety in their careers.

IMTU, depending on the career I use either the survival or promotion roll (there are, after all, many kinds of survival beyond the physical one) to determine if someone has achieved noteable success in their field. I DO make it harder than military endeavors, however. Medals for valor among soldiers are generally more common than high honors in science or industry among those who labor in those fields society-wide.

Some stuff I've used in the past were planetary journalism awards for reporters, publication in reputable professional journals, awards of grants/bonuses and so on. One law enforcer rolled a 12 to survive and a 12 to get promoted so I worked with the player to develop a good 'Serpico/French Connection' type story and knighted him. Of course, he didn't know that the great big B on his UPP made for a great big target on his back, but....
 
Ganidirsii O'Flynn said:
Most of the Imperial level Knighthoods are not specific to area of endeavor. Some are very specific, the Order of the Arrow for example, [btw, how many of you former boy scouts were inducted into the OA? /wave] but there is no substantive difference between an holder of the Order of the Starship and Crown and the Emperor's Guard, save exclusivity (the OEG has 10x the number of OSC).

The racial knighthoods are:
Order of Gvadakoug (Vargr)
Order of Hlyuea (Aslan)
Order of Muan Gwi (Vegans, for what little attention they pay to it)

Below these three are the Archducal Orders (in order of precedence)
Sylea, Vland, Gateway, Illelish, Antares, Sol, and Deneb.

All this from G:T Nobles

Yes, I know, I know, many of you think of GT as non-canon, but you can't go far wrong with Loren Wiseman and John Ziegler. I mean what do ya want, one of the Keith brother to PROVE it to ya? :rofl:
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knighthood is a HUGE award, to much really:nonono:. It's like a medal of honor and should be for extreme contributions...

Real world example: Paul McCartney (the Beatle), 40+ year career with grammies, gold records, hall of fame, awards, etc. Kudos galor yes, but wasn't honored with a knighthood until relatively recently for his influence/contribution.
 
In other words, the equivalent of the SEH?


Like the US has the Medal of Honor (formerly Congressional Medal of Honor) and the Presidential Medal of Freedom (http://www.medaloffreedom.com/).

The Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award, recognizes exceptional meritorious service. The medal was established by President Truman in 1945 to recognize notable service in the war. In 1963, President John F. Kennedy reintroduced it as an honor for distinguished civilian service in peacetime.

President John F. Kennedy authorized the practice of awarding Presidential Medals of Freedom to persons "for especially meritorious contribution to (1) the security or national interests of the United States, or (2) world peace, or (3) cultural or other significant public or private endeavors" (Executive Order 11085 dated Feb. 22, 1963).

The Presidential Medal of Freedom is awarded annually by the President of the United States to individuals selected by him or recommended to him by the Distinguished Civilian Service Awards Board.
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Of course, Congress says their the Congressional Gold Medal of Honor is the "highest civilian award" http://www.congressionalgoldmedal.com/
 
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A bit of thread necromancy on an interesting subject.

During World War 2, King George the Sixth created the George Cross and the George Medal for civilians exhibiting great gallantry. The Cross may be granted posthumously. It is essentially a civilian and non-combat military equivalent of the Victoria Cross.

In order that they should be worthily and promptly recognised, I have decided to create, at once, a new mark of honour for men and women in all walks of civilian life. I propose to give my name to this new distinction, which will consist of the George Cross, which will rank next to the Victoria Cross, and the George Medal for wider distribution.

The Cross is intended primarily for civilians and award in Our military services is to be confined to actions for which purely military Honours are not normally granted.
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The above is quoted from Wikipedia under the George Cross.

Converting these to Traveller would result in something like the Imperial Cross for Heroism and the Imperial Medal for Heroism.

The there is the following, again quoted from Wikipedia. (See Order of the British Empire.)

The Most Excellent Order of the British Empire is a British order of chivalry, rewarding contributions to the arts and sciences, work with charitable and welfare organisations, and public service outside the civil service. It was established on 4 June 1917 by King George V and comprises five classes across both civil and military divisions, the most senior two of which make the recipient either a knight if male or dame if female.
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This would be open to a variety of possible titles, but again, primarily aimed at civilians for outstanding achievements, not necessarily heroism.

Then the Royal Navy once had the honorary position "Colonel of Marines", the following again quoted from Wikipedia, which did include a monetary pension. The Royal Army still maintains the ceremonial position of "Colonel of the Regiment", which allows for the wearing of the full uniform of a colonel on ceremonial occasions, but has no monetary benefit.

The Royal Navy once conveyed the honorific title "Colonel of Marines" to post-captains as a reward for highly distinguished service. It was a salaried sinecure position with no additional obligations outside a captain's normal naval duties. He would lose this title and its additional pay upon reaching flag rank. Horatio Nelson was given such a colonelcy in 1795, two years before he reached flag rank.
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These two positions could also be used in Traveller for military personnel, indicating distinguished non-combat service, possibly with a monetary award as well.

I hope that this gives the readers some ideas as to what might be done for Traveller.
 
n.b. The Events system in Mongoose Traveller mentions various awards, prizes and equivalent.
Agent Event 4: "...and are suitably rewarded"
Citizen Event 9: "You are rewarded..."
Entertainer Event 12: "You win a prestigious prize."
Scholar Event 5: "You win a prestigious prize..."
and other events for scholars imply notable publications and for Entertainers notable credits

Similarly, the more detailed books have events including "You are decorated for Heroism" under Law Enforcement, etc.

And of course, as soon as you hit SOC:11...Bingo! Nobility.
 
And by Bingo in the previous post, I really mean it.

There are about 18,000 billion inhabitants in the third imperium

There are about 11,000 planets

Given an average of 1.5 nobles per planet that makes SOC:11 the equivalent to becoming the president of China, USA or Russia - or head of a major central bank or huge corporation. There are 10 billion people on earth which implies just 10 are at SOC:11 equivalent at the moment.

So - How do you play that SOC:11 noble?
 
On the subject of police awards I can see the imperium following British procedure with a mix of national (imperial) and local awards.

For reference that would be (depending on force ofc) with possible 3I names in brackets:

National
George Cross (Imperial Service Cross): Supreme Gallantry - Most recent civilian to be awarded this went hunting for terrorists in the Nairobi Mall attack.

George Medal (Imperial Service Medal): Extreme Gallantry - One of these is given out every two years or so - most recent police ones were for the London Bridge attacks in 2017.

Queens Gallantry Medal (Imperial Medal for Gallantry): Gallantry - My Inspector got his after getting stabbed in 2001 by a mentally ill person he continued to engage with the man to prevent him from taking hostages leading the disturbed man away from crowds while losing blood. The disturbed man was eventually detained by riot teams.

Queens Policing Medal (Imperial Police Medal): Services to Policing - Technically comes in two divisions Gallantry (which can only be awarded posthumously) and Distinguished Service which covers a wide variety of things including good service, specialist service, secret service and more. Is in my experience awarded to senior officers on their way out.

Queen’s Commendation for Bravery (Imperial Commendation): Gallantry - They exist and are awarded as often as QPMs but I’ve never seen one.

Coronation Medals: Awarded at the crowning of a new monarch to all officers of two years service.

Jubilee Medals: Awarded at a Jubilee to all officers of two years service.


Local/Force

Chief Officers’ Commendations - These are awarded by any of the senior officer team and would be named after the officer awarding’s rank. For example I have a Chief Constable’s commendation for service during COVID - along with everyone else in my force (I also got £300 in tax free bounty but that’s cause the CC was on his way out and wanted to ▮▮▮▮ the budget for his replacement...)

Local Commendations: These are given by local or divisional officers - I have two written Superintendent’s commendations for work on a murder and for and arrest involving child protection. I also have a Chief Inspector’s commendation for a job involving an illegal immigrant who turned out to be a missing child from Spain.

As to frequency of awards - I’m a Special Constable so am not full time (my real job is game design) and have been in the force 4 years. Now I’ve been (un)lucky in the jobs I’ve gotten but a reasonably competent full time officer should get a local commendation per term of service. With a fairly easy roll for senior officer’s commendations (there’s one officer in my station who has about 25 superintendents commendations (he is on a task force though so...)
 
George Cross and George Medal

chipla said:
On the subject of police awards I can see the imperium following British procedure with a mix of national (imperial) and local awards.

For reference that would be (depending on force ofc) with possible 3I names in brackets:

National
George Cross (Imperial Service Cross): Supreme Gallantry - Most recent civilian to be awarded this went hunting for terrorists in the Nairobi Mall attack.

George Medal (Imperial Service Medal): Extreme Gallantry - One of these is given out every two years or so - most recent police ones were for the London Bridge attacks in 2017.

Queens Gallantry Medal (Imperial Medal for Gallantry): Gallantry - My Inspector got his after getting stabbed in 2001 by a mentally ill person he continued to engage with the man to prevent him from taking hostages leading the disturbed man away from crowds while losing blood. The disturbed man was eventually detained by riot teams.

Queens Policing Medal (Imperial Police Medal): Services to Policing - Technically comes in two divisions Gallantry (which can only be awarded posthumously) and Distinguished Service which covers a wide variety of things including good service, specialist service, secret service and more. Is in my experience awarded to senior officers on their way out.

Queen’s Commendation for Bravery (Imperial Commendation): Gallantry - They exist and are awarded as often as QPMs but I’ve never seen one.

Coronation Medals: Awarded at the crowning of a new monarch to all officers of two years service.

Jubilee Medals: Awarded at a Jubilee to all officers of two years service.


Local/Force

Chief Officers’ Commendations - These are awarded by any of the senior officer team and would be named after the officer awarding’s rank. For example I have a Chief Constable’s commendation for service during COVID - along with everyone else in my force (I also got £300 in tax free bounty but that’s cause the CC was on his way out and wanted to ▮▮▮▮ the budget for his replacement...)

Local Commendations: These are given by local or divisional officers - I have two written Superintendent’s commendations for work on a murder and for and arrest involving child protection. I also have a Chief Inspector’s commendation for a job involving an illegal immigrant who turned out to be a missing child from Spain.

As to frequency of awards - I’m a Special Constable so am not full time (my real job is game design) and have been in the force 4 years. Now I’ve been (un)lucky in the jobs I’ve gotten but a reasonably competent full time officer should get a local commendation per term of service. With a fairly easy roll for senior officer’s commendations (there’s one officer in my station who has about 25 superintendents commendations (he is on a task force though so...)
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The are certain rare circumstances when military personnel are awarded the George Cross or George Medal. These awards are for "acts of bravery NOT in the face of the enemy" The most common recent awards have been for particularly brave bomb/IED disposal officers. They risk their lives but it is rarely in the presence of the enemy. So they are ineligible for most British Armed forces decorations for bravery.

See the following Wikipedia articles for details, plus ideas of when Traveller characters might be awarded a Third Imperium equivalent.

wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cross

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_George_Cross_recipients

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Medal
 
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