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Another (though unsupported) possibility is a corporation named Gashidda with yards located towards the Rim but within Imperial lines. The mention of a scandal involving the AHL cruisers is the only support to this theory.

I've always imagined this to be the case. Just because it's called Gashidda (or Vlandian, or some other planetary name) doesn't necessarily mean the yards are on that planet. Perhaps the yards are affiliated with (or subsidiaries of)yards or corporations on those planets.

Cheers,

Baron Ovka
 
Possibly "welders' shop"

Yes. Let's work with that.

Expansive Aspect GA-. "More"

The fundamental sense is of increasing size and/or intensity. The actual meaning depends heavily on the type of aspect of the verb root itself, and grammarians sub-classify it into two types:

a)Inceptive: On punctual or eventive verb roots, giving a sense of “to start...; to begin...”
a. 0-(lash-0) “it flies, it flew”
b. 0-(ga-lash-0) “it starts flying, it began flying”

b)Ingressive: On stative verb roots, giving a sense of “to become...”
a.a-(khar-zu) “she will be happy”
b. a-(ga-khar-zu) “she will become happy” or “she will be happy (later, but she isn’t now)”


Root form SHA, (v) to put together or (vi) to be together, with derived meanings related to industry.

A-grade form? sha.da "to lance", sha.ma blade; knife. E-grade form? she.ga, to break into pieces. Shi.dim, builder of a house; mason. Shi.mur, adhere. Shim, to hold something. U-grade form shu.dish, to crush (re-shape).

Thus: shid.da, weld, or welder, or welding-place. Foundry.

And therefore: Ga.shid.da. Great foundry. Classical term carried into modern Vilani.
 
Wasn't this all hashed out in older threads? The fact that "Mars shipyard" doesn't necessarily mean a shipyard on Mars, ditto Gashidda, ditto Vlandian, etc.?

Anyway, the Kinunir-class can't be a Marches-only design because the Imperium gave one to the Vegans and another appears in a TNE novel featuring the RCES. The suggestion that the Imperium transferred two of them 270 parsecs or so from the Marches to the Rim and Old Expanses seems too much to swallow. Changing sectors in one thing, crossing the Imperium is another - especially when a marginal design is involved. While the transfer story doesn't pin down what planet/system the cruiser was built in, is does point to a region where it was built.

Accordingly Yard 17, which built the Regal Splendor, the ex-Shuruppak, is somewhere on the Rim. That places the five other Yard 17 built Kinunirs on the Rim too; Enki Kalamma, Markashi, Agidda, Luuru, and Ukushki Sar.

The first Yard 17 build on the AHL list is Bard Endeavor and she was lost during the Battle of Kagukhasaggan during - drum roll please - the Solomani Rim War. Four others hulls in the AHL-class were also built at Yard 17.

Eight other AHL hulls get a paragraph in Supplement 5, six of which become scenarios in the AHL games. Those paragraphs point to the region where they were built and checking their yards with the yards listed for other ships gives us regions nearly all.

Again, I didn't come up with this. I just remember reading about it in an earlier thread. The links between hulls, yards, known events, and dispositions lets you narrow yard locations down to at least sectors.

I also remember that Markatch, which One Thousand Years passed over on her first flight, has to be a city or region because there's no planet with that name! ;)
 
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I also remember that Markatch, which One Thousand Years passed over on her first flight, has to be a city or region because there's no planet with that name! ;)

Or a secondary planet within a system.

Cheers,

Baron Ovka
 
Or a moon or a gas giant or an orbital habitat or an asteroid...

anyway: Yard 17 may well be a corporate brand, hence there being Yard 17 slipways in or around the Marches, off towards the Rim and probably elsewhere.

The Luuru is a Yard 17 build and yet operates in the Marches as does the Agidda; the Adamdun is a Clan Sevren build and also operates in the Marches.
 
Subsidiaries and holding companies, you might not want to give the impression that all tax money is funnelled to a single corporate entity.
 
Wasn't this all hashed out in older threads? The fact that "Mars shipyard" doesn't necessarily mean a shipyard on Mars, ditto Gashidda, ditto Vlandian, etc.?

Anyway, the Kinunir-class can't be a Marches-only design because the Imperium gave one to the Vegans and another appears in a TNE novel featuring the RCES. The suggestion that the Imperium transferred two of them 270 parsecs or so from the Marches to the Rim and Old Expanses seems too much to swallow. Changing sectors in one thing, crossing the Imperium is another - especially when a marginal design is involved. While the transfer story doesn't pin down what planet/system the cruiser was built in, is does point to a region where it was built.

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Very true. If Kinunir appears, or variants, in core books for revisions of Traveller we should assume it appears throughout 3I or post-3I. No reason to assume a second release did not occur somewhere within 3I. The plans would have been registered with all Depots as a naval vessel.

AHL, Kinunir could've had military, or corporate variations produced.
 
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