princelian
SOC-12
Browncoat here; Betty is more useful to me as a plot device (and a scary one to be aboard if you're not the crew, no?).
Commander Truestar
SOC-13
Mal...Bad in th origional latin....
B..b..bad to the bone!!!
I'd accompany Mal's crew to Kick Elgyn's crew's a$$es and free the prisoners any day!!!
I only wish they had saved Jubal Early's ship for me to fly CAP with >
B..b..bad to the bone!!!
I'd accompany Mal's crew to Kick Elgyn's crew's a$$es and free the prisoners any day!!!
I only wish they had saved Jubal Early's ship for me to fly CAP with >
Plankowner
SOC-13
So, let me get this straight, you play TRAVELLER (shotguns in space) but you think Serenity is too much like a Western???????
Five minutes into "The Train Job"; the first episode to air on Fox, and I turned to my son and wife and said "THIS is Traveller!"
I still think so.
That is certainly part of Traveller. If you ever played the adventures like Murder on Arcturus, Secret of the Ancients, Warden Enigma, The Flaming Eye or Anomalies...Traveller is much more.
I rather like the idea Traveller being like Asimov's Second Foundation with a good measure of some of Elizabeth Moon's SF thrown in.
Although, I do not deny the Western influences IMTU, I would prefer if the shotguns are locked up and sidearms (usually a self contained laser pistol aka blaster) are limited to a sheethed sidearm.
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Pickles
Guest
I was going to point out the oddly coincidental and anachonistic use of revolvers in both Traveller and Firefly/Serenity, but if you're going to drag this whole thing down to the level of a serious discussion, I'll just keep my mouth shut.
Oh. Too late.
Oh. Too late.
Plankowner
SOC-13
No, not really a serious discussion.
I played back in the day when Laser Pistols were not in the rules, so everyone carried Auto Pistols or Body Pistols.
Having watched some of Firefly again, I noticed that the guns they used LOOKED like pistols and shotguns, but they didn't SOUND like normal guns. I am no expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if the intent was to have it be laser pistols that looked like slugthowers. They sort of had a whine to them when they were fired.
Now, I would have to say that my players would be Gauss Pistol people!
I played back in the day when Laser Pistols were not in the rules, so everyone carried Auto Pistols or Body Pistols.
Having watched some of Firefly again, I noticed that the guns they used LOOKED like pistols and shotguns, but they didn't SOUND like normal guns. I am no expert, but I wouldn't be surprised if the intent was to have it be laser pistols that looked like slugthowers. They sort of had a whine to them when they were fired.
Now, I would have to say that my players would be Gauss Pistol people!
Just swung by a local electronics store and picked up the 4 Aliens films for $40.00 and another one that ought to be the quintessential Traveller film and I don't know why I never thought of it...Armageddon. Save, there would be no way, in hell that the Imperium, IMTU, would not allow the PCs to avoid taxes for life.
Betty, as long as I can play Dominique Pinon's character. Brad Dourif & Ron Perlman were good as well. I am partial to Jean-Pierre Jeunet's movies I admit. Betty seems more what Traveller parties turn into, Serenity is more what I aspire to. Both are fun.
Gibson only did a very early treament for Alien III, only the barcode tattos survive from it. He had nothing to do with Alien IV, which was mainly Joss Whedon in writing at least.
Armageddon?
</font>[/QUOTE]I don't know, IMTU, characters are rarely superheroes or stiff like in Star Trek they are just regular folk called in to do a job that leads them out of the humdrum existance that you & live and into the realms of adventure.
Like the original Alien crew or indeed the crew from Armageddon called in by a variety of patrons and usually have to ask for the most from them. however, in most cases, getting the very short end of the stick. Thereby, becoming heroes in the process of becoming.
So in your TU oil drill workers can suddenly accomplish miracles while bouncing around on a spiky asteroid and better than astronauts (who all seem to be total chumps) and in almost no time at all? Hear that? That's my suspenders of disbelief still breaking clear in half almost a decade later.
I have no problem with working joe characters, I prefer them. I like adventure. But I do have a problem with Bruce Willis sleepwalking through a bad Bay script along with other cardboard cliches in a terrible flick. Surely you can do better than that for the ultimate Traveller movie.
P.S. and FWIW I *do* like Fifth Element
Darkhstarr
SOC-12
Serenity definitely. My scout/diplomat character Manax Darkhstarr spends a lot his clandestine time dealing with 'Bettys'. My wife's pirate captain Bette Noire has a large extended family of 'Betty' victims she's putting through school. She also tends to space 'Betty' types in their underwear. She understands the Serenity crew reasoning, though she better at picking her fights than Mal's bunch.
Darkhstarr
SOC-12
Tossing my wife's two cents in. She reminded me that Bette would have another, less altruistic motive to whacking the Betty. Think about it, the meatsicles delivered by the Betty would include people nobody would miss-pirates & free-traders would be included on that list.
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
Casey wrote:
Don't hold back Casey, you don't have to sugar coat it for us Tell us how you really feel about that film.
Armageddon?Sweet & Sour Hiver Corndog onna stick with extra Hiver Joe's Hot Sauce on it no! Not even Steve Buscemi, not even Liv Tyler rolling around in a summer dress could save that film.
Don't hold back Casey, you don't have to sugar coat it for us
Tell us how you really feel about that film.
Liam Devlin
SOC-14 5K
I call those the typical RCES uplift bootstrap missions myself...