If they were inclined to solicit the input of the original designers of canon starships, their AHL wouldn't have been a through-deck design. 
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kilemall
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Coti isn’t semi-canon?Or it could be they had input from the original designer who said there was no third pinnace since it was only ever a TML invention - it would be like saying everything ever discussed on CotI is semi-canon
Spinward Flow
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CotI is "canon waiting for approval" ...Coti isn’t semi-canon?
Pre-ascended fanon.CotI is "canon waiting for approval" ...
Though he was worked the backstory a bit, this sounds a lot like what Marc has worked into his narrative for the Carandra family.
I browsed some of the TML, looking for juicy bits about the A.N. in the previous millennia, and got slightly bored.
On the other hand, it looks like Marc didn't spend time thinking about the ANNIC NOVA until after T4... more specifically, the early oughties. Even more specifically, November 2007.
On the other hand, it looks like Marc didn't spend time thinking about the ANNIC NOVA until after T4... more specifically, the early oughties. Even more specifically, November 2007.
...shortly before the publication of the first edition of MgT in 2008. I don't know if MgT HG 1st Ed. included Collector Drives and/or an interpretation of Annic Nova -- 2nd Ed. includes both.
Nothing in the Wiki about them, unless my search-fu is weak. Where do they appear in canon?
mike wightman
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I took my info from a MWM podcast...
Condottiere
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Would be funnier if the technology was developed in the Mirror Universe, and you need to feed it mushrooms.
Well, my current IMTU explanation for Annic Nova is that it fell into the OTU from a parallel universe with different laws of physics -- that is, the First Edition LBB rules apply there. Some of that universe is trapped inside the accumulators, so they still work "normally" (that is, as described in DA1/JTAS) in the OTU -- but if they're ever completely powered down and disassembled for the purpose of reverse-engineering them, they'll quit working like that.
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Also (not linked to the preceding post's interpretation), Stellar Collectors (the DA1/JTAS solar-powered version) appear to be 1 TL lower than Energy Collectors (the MgT/T5 "energy from space itself" version) since in the JTAS article, they could be maintained at TL-10. This implies the ability to build an "experimental" Stellar Collector-1 at TL-10, making "standard" 3 TLs higher than that, or TL-13. By contrast, MgT/T5 Energy Collectors start at TL-14 "standard" TL, and are "experimental" at TL-11.
Condottiere
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Early prototype is two technological levels.
Tee Five, I believe, has three.
Tee Five, I believe, has three.
T5 has Standard (the base TL), and precocious tech of Early (-1TL), Prototype (-2TLs), and Experimental (-3TLs).
DOubtful. Seriously doubtful. They have a history of not asking before changing things.Or it could be they had input from the original designer who said there was no third pinnace since it was only ever a TML invention - it would be like saying everything ever discussed on CotI is semi-canon
kilemall
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I have a problem with that, could see 2 TL at the outside…
Spinward Flow
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If that's true, then you can have:
- TL=14 Experimental Anti-Matter Power Plants and Artificial Intelligence
- TL=15 Prototype Anti-Matter Power Plants and Artificial Intelligence
- TL=16 Early Anti-Matter Power Plants and Artificial Intelligence
My thought is that you can only do research into +1 TL above what you've already got, and even that is cutting edge experimental (and by no means ready for prime time mass production under any circumstances). You need to be successful in LOTS of different areas before the baseline TL goes up by +1 for the entire world thanks to the diffusion of research and development into the broader public/private sphere.
mike wightman
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The discovery of Leonardo's experimental nuclear reactor puts this one to bed...
oh wait.
There is a logical absurdity to the TL progression of developing experimental nuclear reactors during the dark ages.
My suggestion all along is that the TL progression should be within the TL of discovery.
So TL6 nuclear reactors are experimental, later they become prototype then early and finally standard all within the same TL.
oh wait.
There is a logical absurdity to the TL progression of developing experimental nuclear reactors during the dark ages.
My suggestion all along is that the TL progression should be within the TL of discovery.
So TL6 nuclear reactors are experimental, later they become prototype then early and finally standard all within the same TL.
Adventure 1: The Kinunir. Yeah, that AI business had issues.
Condottiere
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Da Vinci is Renaissance, so technological level two.
The Curies, Tesla, Edison, Marconi, Einstein, technological level four early prototype fission reactor.
The Curies, Tesla, Edison, Marconi, Einstein, technological level four early prototype fission reactor.
