CT Adventure 7 Gram APC & Tank

[snrdg082102]

Evening all,

While looking for additional fighters, small craft, and vehicles to include in HG I found entries for the Gram Grav APC and Grav Tank on page 45.

Does anyone know what each of the vehicles cost?

Does anyone know of a Striker spreadsheet?

 

[jec10]

Sadly, they don't work - or at least I can't make them work using Striker and the stats provided in CTA7.

So, ignoring the fact that you can't fit the features listed in a hull the size listed, the grav tank costs about MCr 3.1.

 

[snrdg082102]

PST Morning jec10,

Thanks for the approximate cost.

Sadly, they don't work - or at least I can't make them work using Striker and the stats provided in CTA7.

So, ignoring the fact that you can't fit the features listed in a hull the size listed, the grav tank costs about MCr 3.1.

I kind of figured that the I might not be able to duplicate them using Striker. Thanks for the cost and for finally pulling out from my memory at least one book where I had seen a vehicle listed as Gram Grav Tank. The specification for the Grav tank are on the inside front cover of MT 101 Vehicles from Digest Group Publications copyright 1988. MT 101 Vehicles has the price listed as MCr13.282. Of course I don't know if you can stuff everything into the turret and hull using the MT design rules either.

I think that one of GURPS Traveller's book also has specifications for one or both Gram Grav vehicles, unfortunately I can't remember which book or gotten up enough courage to dig the books out from under the stack I have them buried in.

Do you know of a Striker spreadsheet or other application that can be downloaded. I have tried for 10 plus years to build a spreadsheet and made one attempt at using a database to work through Striker Design Sequence 1 without much success.

 

[jec10]

I've posted a link to the spreadsheet tool in the files section. It was too large to upload directly to COTI, sorry.

You're right that the Gram grav tank reappears in 101 Vehicles. Remember, though, that MT design rules don't have different thicknesses for different armour facings, and that the powerplants were completely changed so as to align with spacecraft ones (hence the extreme cost difference).

 

[snrdg082102]

I've posted a link to the spreadsheet tool in the files section. It was too large to upload directly to COTI, sorry.

Not a problem and thank you for the link. After I downloaded the spreadsheet I found I had a copy I downloaded about two years ago. Unfortunately, I was not able to get either the tank or APC to move.

You're right that the Gram grav tank reappears in 101 Vehicles. Remember, though, that MT design rules don't have different thicknesses for different armour facings, and that the powerplants were completely changed so as to align with spacecraft ones (hence the extreme cost difference).

Good to know since I haven't run any designs through MT recently. I do have a copy of Ships III found on Hugh Foster's site at http://www.ace-dog.co.uk/downloads/Downloads.htm.

I also have a DOS version for building vehicles, which unfortunately I haven't been able to run on my Windows 7 computer.

 

[jec10]

The DOS vehicle builder is actually quite good. The big problem is that it uses MT rules-as-written and not as corrected by errata.

So it is essentially useless - because as we all know, there is LOADS of errata for vehicle building in MT!

Because the design parameters from MT are hardcoded into the DOS program, I have never found a way to update them for the errata.

 

[aramis]

The DOS vehicle builder is actually quite good. The big problem is that it uses MT rules-as-written and not as corrected by errata.

So it is essentially useless - because as we all know, there is LOADS of errata for vehicle building in MT!

Because the design parameters from MT are hardcoded into the DOS program, I have never found a way to update them for the errata.

An old-school sector editor might make it possible to hack the corrected data in...

 

[snrdg082102]

Morning aramis and jec10,

Good to know that the DOS Vehicle program basically is a good one and someone with the proper application and skills might be able to bring it up to date.