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Dumarest

Thanos

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Peer of the Realm
In another thread some one said, "The Dumarest universe that is so much the base for Classic Traveller is a bleak universe, where life is cheap, slavery common, death pit fight very common. Much of his works describe society as Sci-Fi Dickens."

I've never heard of this series or the author. So is this statment true, has MM or any one of the original team mentioned anything about this?

Is the series any good?
 
The series is pulp sci-fi, lots of formulaic writing, but there are enough gems to make, oh, 40% of the 33 books worth reading. Some of the books have useful worlds for interested referees.

http://ijparnham.blogspot.com/2009/07/dumarest-saga-by-ec-tubb.html said:
That's about it: brainless adventure, but not brain-numbing. These books are high quality pulp, always fast-paced with no time for pondering the meaning of existence. Within its own set limitations, it creates a whole civilization, a future barbarian society in which everyone acts for their own base needs and nobody ever devotes their time to bettering the world. This is great adventure stuff and the best of its type.

I imagine this group can itemize the best books of the series. I think this includes:

#1 - The Winds of Gath
#2 - Derai (probably)
#4 - Kalin
#5 - The Jester at Scar (maybe)
#8 - Veruchia (maybe)
#12 - Eliose (maybe)
#13 - Eye of the Zodiac (probably)

... getting tired of reading the synopses, so I'll stop here ...

#31 - The Temple of Truth

I believe the main character's UPP and generalized biography showed up in a "guess the NPC" column back in the classic Traveller days. So yes, the Dumarest series was in someone's mind when Traveller was being created. The series also has low berths, which have something like an 80% survival rate. Sound familiar?
 
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Cold berth lottery, mesh armour, tramp traders, psionics and that's just off the top of my head.

If you were to set a game during the long night or in the post MT pre TNE then the Dumarest series would be a go to source for inspiration.

As rob says they are a bit formulaic, repetitive even, but still worth a read. I enjoyed them anyway :)
 
TRAVELLER INSPIRATION

I heartily recommend the Dumarest saga to anyone who wants to see how a clean TRAVELLER adventure should be run.

There is very little fluff or filler. Everything vital to the adventure, or the mystery, is presented in a fairly straightforward fashion. Sure it's pulp, but a competant referee can add what is necessary to make a great one-off or a drop in for a series.

TWO THUMBS UP !!!
 
I heartily recommend the Dumarest saga to anyone who wants to see how a clean TRAVELLER adventure should be run.

I'd love to read 'em just for this reason. I'm going to have to go looking, now. I like books, not iPads or Nooks. Call me Old School.

And a good old cheap ratty paperback from the used bookstore is just fine with me.
 
I'd love to read 'em just for this reason. I'm going to have to go looking, now. I like books, not iPads or Nooks. Call me Old School.

And a good old cheap ratty paperback from the used bookstore is just fine with me.

Try searching on Abebooks, www.abebooks.com, or some of your used book stores. One store near me normally has several in stock at any given time.
 
Blades. Stewards. Traders. Whatever he called "jumpspace."

Dumarest IS Traveller to me. I have all the books. :)
 
This discussion piqued my interest so I started reading #1 today and almost forgot to eat my lunch during my lunch break. Pretty good so far. I think I have the series flagged to read on my Goodreads list.
 
Sifu Blackirish walks in...

Ah yes, advocates of the dead tree printing. Absolutely. IIRC Adv. 2 (Research Station Gamma) gives us the primary reason for continuing to support it. The old guy had quite an extensive dead tree library, and it functioned as a sort of secret archive, inaccessible by computer.

Remember ROLLERBALL? The 1975 version with James Caan, not that horrid remake. Books were being electronically scanned and 'summarized' for brevity. Also works well as a censorship system. The book leaves to scan...and disappears. Soviets used to do the same thing, going through their own archives and rewriting history when there was a leadership upheaval. There is a famous case of one Soviet official being wiped out of existence -- except for his hat.

What was that movie with, oh crap. Recognizing Sixties and Seventies obscure television actors and actresses...Christopher George! That's one of my skills...anyone want to try a CLASSIC TRAVELLER translation of that? He crashes on an opposite orbit Earth, where left handers predominate, a Soviet style rigid leadership and protocol, and history in the libraries starts with the revolution that brought them to power. Nothing else available to commoners.

You can get your product out to many more people these days if you have an electronic media. My first novel will be published soon, with very reasonable pricing, after which enough sales will permit me to produce a print version. i still do not feel a story is complete until I have a piece of printed paper in my hands.
 
Ah yes, advocates of the dead tree printing. Absolutely. IIRC Adv. 2 (Research Station Gamma) gives us the primary reason for continuing to support it. The old guy had quite an extensive dead tree library, and it functioned as a sort of secret archive, inaccessible by computer.

Remember ROLLERBALL? The 1975 version with James Caan, not that horrid remake. Books were being electronically scanned and 'summarized' for brevity. Also works well as a censorship system. The book leaves to scan...and disappears. Soviets used to do the same thing, going through their own archives and rewriting history when there was a leadership upheaval. There is a famous case of one Soviet official being wiped out of existence -- except for his hat.

What was that movie with, oh crap. Recognizing Sixties and Seventies obscure television actors and actresses...Christopher George! That's one of my skills...anyone want to try a CLASSIC TRAVELLER translation of that? He crashes on an opposite orbit Earth, where left handers predominate, a Soviet style rigid leadership and protocol, and history in the libraries starts with the revolution that brought them to power. Nothing else available to commoners.

You can get your product out to many more people these days if you have an electronic media. My first novel will be published soon, with very reasonable pricing, after which enough sales will permit me to produce a print version. i still do not feel a story is complete until I have a piece of printed paper in my hands.

Your not thinking of "Doppleganger" with Roy Thinnes, are you?
 
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