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Errata for Traveller Core Rulebook

Aramis and I (and Cryton) have already discussed this whole thing already, and you aren't seeing that this "new roll" is in the LLBs, TTB, it's in MegaTraveller, it's in TNE and it's in T4. What you are doing is saying that if the person uses a talent selection to select a new talent after training, it's automatic; I don't believe it is, and I see no reason why every psionically trained individual should automatically learn every talent. The DM you are ignoring is in every edition of the Traveller rules.

Mongoose finally makes explicit was implied all along, and you are going through a lot of convolutions to try and ignore it.

There's no evidence I can find of it anywhere but the MGT core rulebook. The quotes from CT show that, intended or not, it was NOT implemented that way in CT. The quote from TNE shows it was not implemented in TNE, either, Don.

Marc's intent was clearly ignored in CT, if indeed it was his intent.
And Mongoose gives a LOT more psi abilities than CT.
 
The examples found in the trade example on page 163 of the core book seem faulty, according to the tables on pages 165-66:

Basic electronics: Cr 25000 on page 163, Cr 10000 on tables (page 165)
Basic manufactured goods: Cr 20000 on page 163, Cr 10000 on tables (page 165)
Basic vehicles: Cr 30000 on page 163, no reference as such on the tables. If assumed Vehicles, then 15000 (page 166) Also note in the letter of the example, it says Advanced Vehicles (whose cost would be 180000 in the tables, page 165) are found.

NOTE: taken form a large core book (not LBB).
 
Also, for those arguing about hulls, I checked my original manuscript. I'm not sure when the text got changed, or who changed it (it could have been me or Chris), but the hulls were originally broken down as follows:

A ship may have any of three configurations – standard (a wedge, cone, sphere or cylinder), streamlined (a wing, disc or other lifting body allowing it to enter the atmosphere easily) or distributed (made up of several sections, and incapable of entering an atmosphere or maintaining its shape under gravity).

Streamlining a ship increases the cost of the hull by 10%. This streamlining includes fuel scoops which allow the skimming of unrefined fuel from gas giants or the gathering of water from open lakes or oceans. Streamlining may not be retrofitted; it must be included at the time of construction.

A distributed ship reduces the cost of its hull by 10%.

A standard-hull ship may still enter atmosphere, but is very ungainly and ponderous, capable of only non-lift generating powered flight. A standard hull ship may have scoops for gathering fuel from a Gas giant, but the process will be much more difficult, and less efficient. Larger ships of this type will often carry a specialized sub-craft (such as a lighter) to perform the actual atmospheric skimming. See Atmospheric Operations, page XX.

Sorry to necro this thread, but could I get some specific clarification? Someone over on the Mongoose boards is trying to say that the -2 DM for Landing in a Standard(unstreamlined) Hull Ship is an error. That's one of the things in the system that actually makes sense to me, since you are basically flying a big brick...
 
Sorry to necro this thread, but could I get some specific clarification? Someone over on the Mongoose boards is trying to say that the -2 DM for Landing in a Standard(unstreamlined) Hull Ship is an error. That's one of the things in the system that actually makes sense to me, since you are basically flying a big brick...

Most other editions simply disallow it entirely.
 
Yea, I realize that. Getting ready to GM MgT and I'm attempting to collate all known Errata, since Mongoose doesn't seem to be able to pull it together... ;)
 
Yea, my inclination is to use it but the person that was telling me about it over at MgT's forum was insistent that the original Author of the rules said it(the -2 DM) wasn't supposed to be in there. I did a search and found that the author happens to be here, so I figured he would be the one to ask. Doubt it will affect how I'll run the game, but this falls into that "Nice to Know" category for me. :)
 
Yes, I saw that over there; personally I am with you, I'd like to see written verification.
 
I don't mind something like that if it made sense. But I don't see the logic of a Flying Brick being as easy to handle as a Streamlined ship made for flying through atmo...
 
I agree, a flying brick wouldn't be really air-worthy in many ways, not like a jet fighter. There are also structural issues with various activities, esp GG refueling, but I'm not big for the rules defining them as I am more concentrated on playing it and find that "crunch" just adds nothing on a RPG level. If you pull out a set of deckplans and a picture, players are excited about a ship, not critical that something doesn't fit or so.
 
Well, I like a. Lot of crunch, as long as it is logical and the gm can handle it. I started out as a wargaamer after all. And I gm HackMaster... ;)
 
I agree, a flying brick wouldn't be really air-worthy in many ways, not like a jet fighter. There are also structural issues with various activities, esp GG refueling, but I'm not big for the rules defining them as I am more concentrated on playing it and find that "crunch" just adds nothing on a RPG level. If you pull out a set of deckplans and a picture, players are excited about a ship, not critical that something doesn't fit or so.

I just looked over that part of the rule book. The description contradicts itself within the same paragraph. REALLY badly written. Definitely needs a rewrite by someone who is paying attention.
 
I just looked over that part of the rule book. The description contradicts itself within the same paragraph. REALLY badly written. Definitely needs a rewrite by someone who is paying attention.

Yes, I'd rewrite that and make the section on streamling match the atmospheric operations section.
 
Yes, I'd rewrite that and make the section on streamling match the atmospheric operations section.

Yes and write ALL parts to take into account grav drive. The description also states that non-lifting bodies can glide. :rofl:
 
Yes and write ALL parts to take into account grav drive. The description also states that non-lifting bodies can glide. :rofl:

Yes, that and that standard hull ships of 1G accel could launch from size 8- planets (2G for the rest); distributed not so much, they would need help.
 
As the guy nominated to pull together the official errata, can you guys drop me PMs on all this and I'll make sure it gets inserted in the right place?
 
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