Firefly setting, Sector Map

[ghashsnaga]

Ranger,

I have the Celestia map kicking around somewhere. I can e-mail it to you later tonight.

Ara

 

[Ranger]

Ara,

Thanks. I downloaded a version of it somewhere, but I only get planets and such around three out of five of the stars.

 

[Ranger]

Ara,

Thanks. I downloaded a version of it somewhere, but I only get planets and such around three out of five of the stars.

 

[robject]

Sigg, I'd suggest two maps: one for the insystem at 0.5 AU/hex, one for the out at a somewhat larger scale...

I adapted the Firefly 'verse to Traveller, which means most worlds are parsecs apart.

http://eaglestone.pocketempires.com/survey/serenity.sec
http://eaglestone.pocketempires.com/survey/serenity.jpg

 

[robject]

Sigg, I'd suggest two maps: one for the insystem at 0.5 AU/hex, one for the out at a somewhat larger scale...

I adapted the Firefly 'verse to Traveller, which means most worlds are parsecs apart.

http://eaglestone.pocketempires.com/survey/serenity.sec
http://eaglestone.pocketempires.com/survey/serenity.jpg

 

[Scott Martin]

Ara

Would you like me to park these files on scottmartin.ca so that you don't need to worry about Geocities transfer cap? I'm hosting files for a few other folks here:

http://www.scottmartin.ca/Space_RPG/Other_peoples_stuff/Other_People_Main.html

The range of hosting seems to be "free and spotty, cheap and small / bandwidth limited or somewhat expensive and more bandwidth and space than a sane person will use.

I have the third option, and haven't used it over the last 3 years, so I'm parking files for other folks since it doesn't cost me anything extra

Scott Martin

 

[Scott Martin]

Ara

Would you like me to park these files on scottmartin.ca so that you don't need to worry about Geocities transfer cap? I'm hosting files for a few other folks here:

http://www.scottmartin.ca/Space_RPG/Other_peoples_stuff/Other_People_Main.html

The range of hosting seems to be "free and spotty, cheap and small / bandwidth limited or somewhat expensive and more bandwidth and space than a sane person will use.

I have the third option, and haven't used it over the last 3 years, so I'm parking files for other folks since it doesn't cost me anything extra

Scott Martin

 

[ghashsnaga]

Scott,

That would be great. Geocities is not the best for linking files. Thanks.

Ara

 

[ghashsnaga]

Scott,

That would be great. Geocities is not the best for linking files. Thanks.

Ara

 

[Ranger]

I think either a composit map or two sets of maps is probably the only way to resolve the issue. The problem is that the individual systems are probably in the range of 18 to 20 AUs in diameter. On Ara's map, the planets beyond 2 AUs from each star are orbiting in adjacent hexes.

Take our solar system for example. The Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars are all in the same hex (roughly 0 to 1.2 AU). The Asteroid Belt (roughly 2.4 AUs) and Jupiter (roughly 4.8 AUs) would be in the next ring of 6 hex. Saturn (aproximately 9.5 AUs) would be in the next ring or hexes out. Saturn's orbit probably about the limit for any of orbits on the Firefly verse.

So, you can use Ara's map to show the relative locations of the systems, and then you probably still need a second map for each system that shows where the planets are in their orbits.

You could use the jump 6 map using a 1/2 AU scale for the center hex and the first 3 rings of hexes, then a 2 AU scale for the next 2 rings, and 4 AUs for the last ring, and it would all "fit" into Ara's map scale of 4 AUs per hex.

Of course, then you are back to the issue of tracking the location of the individual planets. Which is why Celestia is such a nice tool for this, because it does all that work for you. So, you use Ara's very nice map for general reference, and then use Celestia to show the actual positions of the planets and the actual distances from point of departure to point of destination.

 

[Ranger]

I think either a composit map or two sets of maps is probably the only way to resolve the issue. The problem is that the individual systems are probably in the range of 18 to 20 AUs in diameter. On Ara's map, the planets beyond 2 AUs from each star are orbiting in adjacent hexes.

Take our solar system for example. The Sun, Mercury, Venus, Earth, and Mars are all in the same hex (roughly 0 to 1.2 AU). The Asteroid Belt (roughly 2.4 AUs) and Jupiter (roughly 4.8 AUs) would be in the next ring of 6 hex. Saturn (aproximately 9.5 AUs) would be in the next ring or hexes out. Saturn's orbit probably about the limit for any of orbits on the Firefly verse.

So, you can use Ara's map to show the relative locations of the systems, and then you probably still need a second map for each system that shows where the planets are in their orbits.

You could use the jump 6 map using a 1/2 AU scale for the center hex and the first 3 rings of hexes, then a 2 AU scale for the next 2 rings, and 4 AUs for the last ring, and it would all "fit" into Ara's map scale of 4 AUs per hex.

Of course, then you are back to the issue of tracking the location of the individual planets. Which is why Celestia is such a nice tool for this, because it does all that work for you. So, you use Ara's very nice map for general reference, and then use Celestia to show the actual positions of the planets and the actual distances from point of departure to point of destination.

 

[Scott Martin]

Hi Ara

Find them mirrored here:
http://www.scottmartin.ca/Traveller_FTP/theverse.pdf
http://www.scottmartin.ca/Traveller_FTP/theverse2.pdf

If you write up an intro page I'll park it in the "other peoples stuff" section. you can send me a PM or email to Scott at the above domain.

Scott Martin

 

[Scott Martin]

Hi Ara

Find them mirrored here:
http://www.scottmartin.ca/Traveller_FTP/theverse.pdf
http://www.scottmartin.ca/Traveller_FTP/theverse2.pdf

If you write up an intro page I'll park it in the "other peoples stuff" section. you can send me a PM or email to Scott at the above domain.

Scott Martin

 

[ghashsnaga]

Ranger is right. The maps I created are for relative distances to the systems. I have other maps which show the orbits of the planets (which I need to finish up) with the same scale.

 

[ghashsnaga]

Ranger is right. The maps I created are for relative distances to the systems. I have other maps which show the orbits of the planets (which I need to finish up) with the same scale.

 

[ghashsnaga]

Ok here are the widths of the star systems for those that want to create a more detailed map of the 'Verse. These are taken from the Celestia model.

System Width (AU)
Zhong Yang 15.84 AU
Zhu Que ~2 AU
Bai Hu 7.26 AU
Xuan Wu ~2 AU
Qing Long ~23 AU

 

[ghashsnaga]

Ok here are the widths of the star systems for those that want to create a more detailed map of the 'Verse. These are taken from the Celestia model.

System Width (AU)
Zhong Yang 15.84 AU
Zhu Que ~2 AU
Bai Hu 7.26 AU
Xuan Wu ~2 AU
Qing Long ~23 AU

 

[Ranger]

Originally posted by Ara:
Ranger is right. The maps I created are for relative distances to the systems. I have other maps which show the orbits of the planets (which I need to finish up) with the same scale.

Very nice. Can't wait to see those.

 

[Ranger]

Originally posted by Ara:
Ranger is right. The maps I created are for relative distances to the systems. I have other maps which show the orbits of the planets (which I need to finish up) with the same scale.

Very nice. Can't wait to see those.

 

[ghashsnaga]

Here the Zhong Yang system on a sector map. Each hex is about ~5 AU (each AU is on the map). Others will have to wait until later in the week .

Zhong Yang System