I was just messing around with an art generator at Night Cafe. Seems pretty simple.
Has anyone done any Traveller art with the AI tools out there?
Has anyone done any Traveller art with the AI tools out there?
General Has anyone done any Traveller art with the AI tools out there?
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Spinward Flow
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In before the field can be correctly called "copywrong law" ...
Kakistocrat
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It depends upon the legal jurisdiction. At this writing, AI-generated images can’t be copyrighted in the US, but they can be copyrighted in China.
Spinward Flow
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Ah yes, the paragons of intellectual property rights protection that the world looks up to ... right ... uh-huh ...
good to know, and interesting. It all comes down to what is art? is the prompt for generating art something that can be copyrighted? But I am taking this thread off topic. I have attempted to do a few things with various AI tools, some Traveller related. So far, I've not been happy with the results, but I also feel I am cheating or something. Personal bias, I know. For me it is still in the toy phase though moving so fast it is leaving that pretty durn quickly!
Part of the issue for me is that it is not really a collaboration when I utterly fail to covey to the AI any of MY visionary contribution. The AI generates images on a "this is what I feel like, so take it or leave it" basis. As an example, I described a knife with a pommel in the shape of the head of a tiger ... the knife had no pommel, but the handle was inlaid with tiger fur and the leather sheath had a tiger head on it. It was pretty, but it bore little resemblance to what I had asked for.
Then there are the obvious limitations ... it can do "photo realism", but not "fingers" ... round wheels and 4 legs often allude it as well. So watching a computer create things unrelated to what I want is not my definition of "fun" and if it is "ART", it really doesn't seem like "MY" artwork (as an artist) ... just art that I commissioned with a prompt and had trivial control over (I get to specify the style).
It was probably trying to emulate an Aslans hand.
Spinward Flow
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That's the problem with AI tech ... it grows at exponential speed ... and humans are REALLY BAD at judging exponential rates of anything.
It's one of those "start with a penny, double it every day, by the end of a month you're a millionaire" kinds of deals.
If you ask (most) humans when would the "midpoint" of wealth accumulation have been, (most) people tend to assume mid-month about 15 days in. The thing is that most people do not realize that the "half a million" day was actually the day before reaching (over) 1 million.
Our mental habit is to draw lines of expectations, not curves that go exponential, when trying to predict the future.
{ cue Yoda voice: "That is why you fail." }
I’m sure many Renaissance patrons experienced the same thing.
Timerover51
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I just try to keep working at it until I get something that I like or can live with. That does take a while.
I am contemplating trying the "start with an image" feature and Photoshop a rough collage of cut, stretch and paste objects that look like crap, but convey "composition" and see what happens from there. I just have not gotten around to it yet.
Timerover51
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Look my stuff over if there is anything that you can use. Otherwise, let me know here and I will try to make you something that you can evolve or edit.
Here is an example ...
I always thought that a JEEP with off-road suspension and TRACKS would look great. It would be even better in an "action" image rather than a static 3-view. So start with an image of a Baja Jeep catching some air as it comes over a hill. Then photoshop in the tracks from the "RIPSAW" to replace the wheels. Then maybe adjust the background image to look more Jurassic Park.
Then see what AI could do to clean up that rough cut-paste starting image.
[I just lack the free time to get around to that project and the little tinkering with AI that I have done, suggest a low probability of success ... so it is low in my pile of ideas. Right now I am pushing the envelope on a size 5 world with a tainted atmosphere (excessive ozone), dense forest coverage, a population in the tens of thousands and TL 10 ... they are combining log/timber construction - because wood is everywhere - with some advanced technology and sealed "arcologies" to filter the air. Most recent was small Arctic settlement over some critical mineral resources that employed a translucent Buckminster dome facing south, a ring of cylindrical towers forming the north edge and a north berm of snow over earth for insulation. ... for a CT PbP game called "BACKWATER".]
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Timerover51
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Here is what I came up with for a Jeep. Everyone of them rendered had tires.
It is a great image of a Jeep.
It is a great image of a Jeep.
I guess the AI has gotten smarter than my first "cart" with wheels at 90 degree angles on the body.
Timerover51
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Check out my cargo trucks as well.I guess the AI has gotten smarter than my first "cart" with wheels at 90 degree angles on the body.
I have and liked them (both personally and in "computer-speak" by clicking the hearts). I was also impressed with the "Steampunk" themed craft.
Timerover51
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Thanks, and do not forget to leave comments either.
So I decided to invest the time and see what would happen with my little experiment.
The GOAL:
I always thought that a JEEP with off-road suspension and TRACKS would look great. It would be even better in an "action" image rather than a static 3-view. So start with an image of a Baja Jeep catching some air as it comes over a hill. Then photoshop in the tracks from the "RIPSAW" to replace the wheels. Then maybe adjust the background image to look more Jurassic Park.
Uploaded to the AI ...
The Photoshop Start Image [LINK]
The Text Prompt: "Tracked jeep racing through Jurassic Forest oil painting by James Gurney"
The Result:
Not quite MY vision ...
The GOAL:
I always thought that a JEEP with off-road suspension and TRACKS would look great. It would be even better in an "action" image rather than a static 3-view. So start with an image of a Baja Jeep catching some air as it comes over a hill. Then photoshop in the tracks from the "RIPSAW" to replace the wheels. Then maybe adjust the background image to look more Jurassic Park.
Uploaded to the AI ...
The Photoshop Start Image [LINK]
The Text Prompt: "Tracked jeep racing through Jurassic Forest oil painting by James Gurney"
The Result:
Not quite MY vision ...
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New Text Prompt with same Photoshop image: "Jeep with tank treads detailed matte painting, deep color, fantastical, intricate detail, splash screen, complementary colors, fantasy concept art, 8k resolution trending on Artstation Unreal Engine 5"
New Results: (2 attempts)
New Results: (2 attempts)
