Heaven & Earth

[LeperColony]

I tried maybe two/three years ago. No reply.

 

[Kilgs]

Runs on Windows 10 in emulation mode. I set it to winXP and had it run as admin. Fun tool, but I'm having trouble getting agreeable T5 results. I've settled on MegaTraveller for now and hand waving what I don't like.

The biggest problem I had was with a locked world. It orbits a small, cool sun closely and doesn't rotate. The resultant map was unsatisfying as it depicted polar regions and the data page described a day/night cycle.

Still it's fun, and it's free, which makes it pretty dang neato. Thanks for making this tool available.

Hmmm... I messed with it in Win10 awhile back and still have the failure to save problems. I'll have to take another look at it.

 

[dalthor]

IIRC, the original source may have been sent/given to Hemdian. There was a thread around here somewhere...

http://www.travellerrpg.com/CotI/Discuss/showthread.php?t=18858

 

[Hemdian]

IIRC, the original source may have been sent/given to Hemdian.

It was, but I am unable to compile it as that requires a developer licence for using/embedding TwistedPixel.ocx. I was able to track down the original developer of TwistedPixel, but even he doesn't have a licence anymore.

So, unless anyone can find a licence for TwistedPixel, the only value in the source code is in understanding the output data file format.

 

[estar]

It was, but I am unable to compile it as that requires a developer licence for using/embedding TwistedPixel.ocx. I was able to track down the original developer of TwistedPixel, but even he doesn't have a licence anymore.

So, unless anyone can find a licence for TwistedPixel, the only value in the source code is in understanding the output data file format.

I am been a Visual Basic programmer for twenty+ years. I looked over what TwistedPixel exports and probably could fix it up with equivalent functionality if I had access to the source code. I maintain and develop a CAD/CAM software written in VB6 so I have to dig pretty deep into how it works. After all I did get most of Galactic working in VB6 :-D

Executable - just drop into the Galactic folder should work with the default vb6 runtime installed with windows.

http://www.batintheattic.com/downloads/Galactic.exe


Source code - just copy into the main galactic folder
https://github.com/robertsconley/wingalactic

 

[whartung]

I am been a Visual Basic programmer for twenty+ years. I looked over what TwistedPixel exports and probably could fix it up with equivalent functionality if I had access to the source code. I maintain and develop a CAD/CAM software written in VB6 so I have to dig pretty deep into how it works. After all I did get most of Galactic working in VB6 :-D

I was about to say. Not being part of the Windows Universe, a quick google on the TwistedPixels seems to be some imaging library. Maybe interesting 20 years ago, but that support has to be ubiquitous nowadays.

 

[estar]

I was about to say. Not being part of the Windows Universe, a quick google on the TwistedPixels seems to be some imaging library. Maybe interesting 20 years ago, but that support has to be ubiquitous nowadays.

The problem is that H&E won't compile without it. I have some tools that will examine a binary VB program and it looks like TwistedPixel is within some of the forms, so "commenting" it out is not a straight forward process.

However I know how to edit the VB6 files manually so I will be able to get the program open and work on a substitute and test it along the way.

 

[whartung]

The problem is that H&E won't compile without it. I have some tools that will examine a binary VB program and it looks like TwistedPixel is within some of the forms, so "commenting" it out is not a straight forward process.

However I know how to edit the VB6 files manually so I will be able to get the program open and work on a substitute and test it along the way.

So, you do, or do not have the source code to the project? Or do you not have the tools to actually work with the source code (such as tweaking VB6 screens).

 

[estar]

So, you do, or do not have the source code to the project? Or do you not have the tools to actually work with the source code (such as tweaking VB6 screens).

I do not have the source code. All I can do without it is poke around and see what the component forms and modules are and what they reference.

Hemdian will have to share the source code with me in order to try to convert it over.

 

[Redcap]

It takes a lot of exploration and guess work...

However,

Having installed the full (1.08 beta) package and failed as I reported above, I started....
...experimenting.

And I tried running the app "As Administrator"....and it worked!

YAY!

So Windows 10 is not the death of H&E

I hope this saved someone some of the grief I'd been put through experimenting and being annoyed.

For a couple of reasons (H&E being only one, lol), I picked up a Win10 laptop the other day. I can confirm your method of running it "As Administrator"works just fine, and is going to save me a bucket load of work with running off system notes and details for a convention adventure I'm writing

 

[DragonBard]

Modern Windows 10 64bit Install Notes for Heaven & Earth

So, first, install it into your User Profile, NOT Program Files. This avoids having to run the software as Admin.

Next, after installing, you need to open a Admin Command Prompt, and cd to C:\Window\SysWOW64. From here run the 'regsvr32 TwistedPixel.ocx'. This should complete the installation and Heaven & Earth will run without needing admin rights.

 

[ShawnDriscoll]

Next, after installing, you need to open a Admin Command Prompt, and cd to C:\Window\SysWOW64.

C:\Windows\SysWOW64

 

[Qstor2]

I'm running windows 8 and it can't find TwistedPixel.ocx? I Googled an install for the file but Windows blocked it cause it wasn't recognized as a good source?

 

[estar]

I'm running windows 8 and it can't find TwistedPixel.ocx? I Googled an install for the file but Windows blocked it cause it wasn't recognized as a good source?

It is an unsigned install and a system file, Windows 10 blocks those automatically. You have to give it explicit permission to install. I believe the option to do so is in the lower left.

To combat virus, Microsoft requires people to digitally sign their installer. But because of older software that compatible with later version of Windows you can click through several layers of dialogs that amount to "Yes I really really really want to install this."